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hangli2

几十个海龟争一个职位，msf毕业回国大都是做商业银行或者财务。大家要对现实有个预期，没有工作经验很难有好的工作起点。

-- by 会员 Henrrick (2012/12/29 17:21:57)

Many years ago, I said something similar, and millions of people throw shit on me. So I would not say anything like this anymore, just let the kids go and head on the wall, they will understand it themselves. But not today.

-- by 会员 dcc617 (2012/12/29 17:49:46)

我也是觉得金融这么难申请，其实也不一定有什么特别的收获，那大哥最后是去美国读了什么？最后还是到IB工作了？

-- by 会员 wqqcs2008 (2013/1/1 10:31:25)

I went to msa, transferred to ib 2 years later. Special case. Even though a lot of people say anything is possible and everyone has a chance, i always suggest people to look at the overall situation.

-- by 会员 dcc617 (2013/1/1 20:47:39)

This is apparently the overconfidence effect, like '93% of American drivers rate themselves as better than the median.'  

dcc617

几十个海龟争一个职位，msf毕业回国大都是做商业银行或者财务。大家要对现实有个预期，没有工作经验很难有好的工作起点。

-- by 会员 Henrrick (2012/12/29 17:21:57)

Many years ago, I said something similar, and millions of people throw shit on me. So I would not say anything like this anymore, just let the kids go and head on the wall, they will understand it themselves. But not today.

-- by 会员 dcc617 (2012/12/29 17:49:46)

我也是觉得金融这么难申请，其实也不一定有什么特别的收获，那大哥最后是去美国读了什么？最后还是到IB工作了？

-- by 会员 wqqcs2008 (2013/1/1 10:31:25)

I went to msa, transferred to ib 2 years later. Special case. Even though a lot of people say anything is possible and everyone has a chance, i always suggest people to look at the overall situation.

-- by 会员 dcc617 (2013/1/1 20:47:39)

This is apparently the overconfidence effect, like '93% of American drivers rate themselves as better than the median.'  

-- by 会员 hangli2 (2013/1/1 20:57:30)

Please look at what I said, not the other people's word. I am the one who said it is very hard for a MSF or MSA student to find a job in USA before graduation. And without your experience, your education could help you little.


However, I still recommend someone who is not from a top-tire school in China and receive a nice offer from USA. The school reputation could help you in the long run, and your experience to taste another culture could also be beneficial.

hangli2

几十个海龟争一个职位，msf毕业回国大都是做商业银行或者财务。大家要对现实有个预期，没有工作经验很难有好的工作起点。

-- by 会员 Henrrick (2012/12/29 17:21:57)

Many years ago, I said something similar, and millions of people throw shit on me. So I would not say anything like this anymore, just let the kids go and head on the wall, they will understand it themselves. But not today.

-- by 会员 dcc617 (2012/12/29 17:49:46)

我也是觉得金融这么难申请，其实也不一定有什么特别的收获，那大哥最后是去美国读了什么？最后还是到IB工作了？

-- by 会员 wqqcs2008 (2013/1/1 10:31:25)

I went to msa, transferred to ib 2 years later. Special case. Even though a lot of people say anything is possible and everyone has a chance, i always suggest people to look at the overall situation.

-- by 会员 dcc617 (2013/1/1 20:47:39)

This is apparently the overconfidence effect, like '93% of American drivers rate themselves as better than the median.'  

-- by 会员 hangli2 (2013/1/1 20:57:30)

Please look at what I said, not the other people's word. I am the one who said it is very hard for a MSF or MSA student to find a job in USA before graduation. And without your experience, your education could help you little.


However, I still recommend someone who is not from a top-tire school in China and receive a nice offer from USA. The school reputation could help you in the long run, and your experience to taste another culture could also be beneficial.

-- by 会员 dcc617 (2013/1/1 21:12:06)

I knew your point and I agree with u...

'ppl say anything is possible and everyone has a chance' == '93% of American drivers rate themselves as better than the median'. This is what I mean

dcc617

几十个海龟争一个职位，msf毕业回国大都是做商业银行或者财务。大家要对现实有个预期，没有工作经验很难有好的工作起点。

-- by 会员 Henrrick (2012/12/29 17:21:57)

Many years ago, I said something similar, and millions of people throw shit on me. So I would not say anything like this anymore, just let the kids go and head on the wall, they will understand it themselves. But not today.

-- by 会员 dcc617 (2012/12/29 17:49:46)

我也是觉得金融这么难申请，其实也不一定有什么特别的收获，那大哥最后是去美国读了什么？最后还是到IB工作了？

-- by 会员 wqqcs2008 (2013/1/1 10:31:25)

I went to msa, transferred to ib 2 years later. Special case. Even though a lot of people say anything is possible and everyone has a chance, i always suggest people to look at the overall situation.

-- by 会员 dcc617 (2013/1/1 20:47:39)

This is apparently the overconfidence effect, like '93% of American drivers rate themselves as better than the median.'  

-- by 会员 hangli2 (2013/1/1 20:57:30)

Please look at what I said, not the other people's word. I am the one who said it is very hard for a MSF or MSA student to find a job in USA before graduation. And without your experience, your education could help you little.


However, I still recommend someone who is not from a top-tire school in China and receive a nice offer from USA. The school reputation could help you in the long run, and your experience to taste another culture could also be beneficial.

-- by 会员 dcc617 (2013/1/1 21:12:06)

I knew your point and I agree with u...

'ppl say anything is possible and everyone has a chance' == '93% of American drivers rate themselves as better than the median'. This is what I mean

-- by 会员 hangli2 (2013/1/1 21:27:54)

Yeah, you are right. Sometimes people ask, is it possible to get into Goldman after my MSF in xxx (a 2nd or 3rd tier school). Some nice people would reply say everyone gets a chance. I do not quit like that answer. For a normal guy, I would just say no way.

aeoluseros

让一个人失败的往往并不是专业的选择，而是思虑太多，畏惧太多，可唯独做得却很少。
MSF的就业再不好，申请他本身不是错，错的是申请前不知为何申请他，申请后不知怎么最优化它。而一个“优化”两字又暗含了“思考”、“行动”两个交互过程。思考的是客观看待自身的偏好与能力，偏好为先，能力为后，行动的是为人所不为，为人所不敢为。
有的人有功利心，有的人生性淡泊，怎可仅以就业分高下，以结果论世事。
每一个人，走每一步，都不容易，都是认识自己和尝试改变自己的过程。绝对最终的是一个人的品性，而非一时的选择。选择了，就大胆去做，而对他人的选择，尊重与建议即可，毋须评判。

秋晨小仔

让一个人失败的往往并不是专业的选择，而是思虑太多，畏惧太多，可唯独做得却很少。
MSF的就业再不好，申请他本身不是错，错的是申请前不知为何申请他，申请后不知怎么最优化它。而一个“优化”两字又暗含了“思考”、“行动”两个交互过程。思考的是客观看待自身的偏好与能力，偏好为先，能力为后，行动的是为人所不为，为人所不敢为。
有的人有功利心，有的人生性淡泊，怎可仅以就业分高下，以结果论世事。
每一个人，走每一步，都不容易，都是认识自己和尝试改变自己的过程。绝对最终的是一个人的品性，而非一时的选择。选择了，就大胆去做，而对他人的选择，尊重与建议即可，毋须评判。

-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2013/1/1 22:10:49)

大神好久不见！抱大腿。。
神回复强烈要求转载到围脖

aeoluseros

秋晨~~我经常潜水，肺活量越发高了。。momo...

Karmalot

离a大版好近~

mcsimon

同意。选择msf这条道路是一回事，而走上了这条道路之后怎么再去最优自己的选择又是另外一回事。对于正在申请的人的同学来说，除非是比较早混迹于CD寄托这些网站，大多数人在考T考G的时候已经或多或少做出了决定。这时候所谓的唤醒，大多数人还是缺乏魄力直面改变现状所付出的机会成本。或者我们能不能换个角度?讨论一下msf除了在美就业回国就业还有没有其他的曲线救国的出路?觉得有意在学术界发展的试一下金融phd?或者再考个GRE试一下经济PHD里跟金融有交集的方向?不差钱执意要在美国找到工作的再试一试本校的会计、统计双学位?当然我这也是比较理想比较功利的想法。但我现在至少我不后悔当初的选择。

让一个人失败的往往并不是专业的选择，而是思虑太多，畏惧太多，可唯独做得却很少。
MSF的就业再不好，申请他本身不是错，错的是申请前不知为何申请他，申请后不知怎么最优化它。而一个“优化”两字又暗含了“思考”、“行动”两个交互过程。思考的是客观看待自身的偏好与能力，偏好为先，能力为后，行动的是为人所不为，为人所不敢为。
有的人有功利心，有的人生性淡泊，怎可仅以就业分高下，以结果论世事。
每一个人，走每一步，都不容易，都是认识自己和尝试改变自己的过程。绝对最终的是一个人的品性，而非一时的选择。选择了，就大胆去做，而对他人的选择，尊重与建议即可，毋须评判。

-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2013/1/1 22:10:49)

aeoluseros

离a大版好近~

-- by 会员 Karmalot (2013/1/2 4:36:27)

我发现我是来结贴的…悟空开我玩笑