复旦大学的MBA是不是很弱啊？

newboyss

看看里面的教授就知道了。商学院好坏还得问懂行的。汇丰找了一大堆助理教授，纷纷离去，有一个去了高金。大家看看这个网页就知道了。

http://www.econjobrumors.com/topic/china-job-market-2011-2012

这里有教授对各校的评价。可以参考一下

newboyss

“复旦最大问题就是：旧势力根深蒂固，过去复旦一向都是近亲繁殖，根深蒂固的话就会造成想要改革的话阻力极大，这也正是为什么宋铮这样的做得这么出色的人都遭到严重排挤。想想吧，你拿着这样的高薪（而且暂时还木有什么贡献）在那群掌权者面前晃，是不是他们的眼中钉肉中刺？

I like your points. However, you reasoning about Fudan is not very strong.
I wish Renda can do more than that.
Fudan and SJTU will not rise in near future. Here is why: SJTU is investing heavily (time, resources, students, etc.) in SAIF and CEIBS (yes, CEIBS is part of SJTU). So, SJTU econ and Antai have become forgotten step children. Given that SJTU is not improving, this gives Fudan no incentive to improve either. This is why SJTU and Fudan has lagged. Renda (b-school and Hanqing) seems to be finally improving now (they are already paying more than Tsinghua and Beida), which is good for all of us, cuz this will put pressure on Beida and Tsinghua to improve too.
”

http://www.econjobrumors.com/topic/china-job-market-2011-2012/page/93

newboyss

“Sigh, unfortunately, this is all true.


I got it from 2010-11 china market post:
"I seriously can't believe there hasn't been a news report about PKU HSBC Business School in the US yet. I visited there from my current University a couple of years ago, then again a couple of months ago, and found no students or faculty on the campus. The stories that I heard from a couple of western faculty were that there was widespread sex between the deans, faculty, and students (and I mean in all directions), the school does not pay them their full 300k - 400k RMB salary on time, or sometimes at all, that almost nobody finishes their first contract, and that the school has a tendency to sue their former faculty under threat of sending bad reviews to their next employer.
On my visit, I asked why one of the dorms was blocked off, and was told one of their students killed themselves. The school must have covered it up. It was never in the news, which I searched, as I am fluent in Chinese. They can't hold onto their western faculty, and what few of their students came to school didn't seem to speak English.
Hai Wen is the Dean of the school, and seems to be running it into the ground while stealing money from the school. Vincent Chang has been accused on the Chinese BBS of having sex with students, faculty, and was once accused of raping twins. He is an American citizen. How can the Americans let this happen? I guess they don't know.
On my visit, I also visited Guanghua, Renmin, Tsinghua, etc, and those were all wonderful schools. If you're going to China for the low pay and lazy co-workers, at least don't go to PKU HSBC Business School. Don't forget that this school is located in Shenzhen, which is like a hooker-wasteland."
Is it true? If it is not true, why the school don't clarify this???”

http://www.econjobrumors.com/topic/china-job-market-2011-2012/page/103

qwerty2012

“Sigh, unfortunately, this is all true.


I got it from 2010-11 china market post:
"I seriously can't believe there hasn't been a news report about PKU HSBC Business School in the US yet. I visited there from my current University a couple of years ago, then again a couple of months ago, and found no students or faculty on the campus. The stories that I heard from a couple of western faculty were that there was widespread sex between the deans, faculty, and students (and I mean in all directions), the school does not pay them their full 300k - 400k RMB salary on time, or sometimes at all, that almost nobody finishes their first contract, and that the school has a tendency to sue their former faculty under threat of sending bad reviews to their next employer.
On my visit, I asked why one of the dorms was blocked off, and was told one of their students killed themselves. The school must have covered it up. It was never in the news, which I searched, as I am fluent in Chinese. They can't hold onto their western faculty, and what few of their students came to school didn't seem to speak English.
Hai Wen is the Dean of the school, and seems to be running it into the ground while stealing money from the school. Vincent Chang has been accused on the Chinese BBS of having sex with students, faculty, and was once accused of raping twins. He is an American citizen. How can the Americans let this happen? I guess they don't know.
On my visit, I also visited Guanghua, Renmin, Tsinghua, etc, and those were all wonderful schools. If you're going to China for the low pay and lazy co-workers, at least don't go to PKU HSBC Business School. Don't forget that this school is located in Shenzhen, which is like a hooker-wasteland."
Is it true? If it is not true, why the school don't clarify this???”

http://www.econjobrumors.com/topic/china-job-market-2011-2012/page/103

-- by 会员 newboyss (2012/5/16 8:54:04)

good inside news

星星点灯2010

“Sigh, unfortunately, this is all true.


I got it from 2010-11 china market post:
"I seriously can't believe there hasn't been a news report about PKU HSBC Business School in the US yet. I visited there from my current University a couple of years ago, then again a couple of months ago, and found no students or faculty on the campus. The stories that I heard from a couple of western faculty were that there was widespread sex between the deans, faculty, and students (and I mean in all directions), the school does not pay them their full 300k - 400k RMB salary on time, or sometimes at all, that almost nobody finishes their first contract, and that the school has a tendency to sue their former faculty under threat of sending bad reviews to their next employer.
On my visit, I asked why one of the dorms was blocked off, and was told one of their students killed themselves. The school must have covered it up. It was never in the news, which I searched, as I am fluent in Chinese. They can't hold onto their western faculty, and what few of their students came to school didn't seem to speak English.
Hai Wen is the Dean of the school, and seems to be running it into the ground while stealing money from the school. Vincent Chang has been accused on the Chinese BBS of having sex with students, faculty, and was once accused of raping twins. He is an American citizen. How can the Americans let this happen? I guess they don't know.
On my visit, I also visited Guanghua, Renmin, Tsinghua, etc, and those were all wonderful schools. If you're going to China for the low pay and lazy co-workers, at least don't go to PKU HSBC Business School. Don't forget that this school is located in Shenzhen, which is like a hooker-wasteland."
Is it true? If it is not true, why the school don't clarify this???”

http://www.econjobrumors.com/topic/china-job-market-2011-2012/page/103

-- by 会员 newboyss (2012/5/16 8:54:04)

good inside news

-- by 会员 qwerty2012 (2012/5/16 18:26:33)

几个人的留言能算inside news吗？

andrew2001

We can learn something from it and interested parties can follow up and collect information. Indeed, the rumors are more informative than many posts on CD.

derekhsuan

这个人我听说了，是复旦国际MBA，刚刚从LBS交流回来的一个女童鞋。实力的确可以。

nonshader

体制外就一定比体制内的学校更能培养适合广大国企的学生吗？
我们是中国人，大部分人赚的还是中国人的钱。洋墨水不适合也会腹泻。
个人很讨厌长江的招生策略！！！

jerryjuns

顶一下，同问，体制内的MBA真的那么不行吗？

wanghongliang

以后不知道啥样，当下，跟那三个体制外的差距大。