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201#
发表于 2012-2-15 13:47:48 | 只看该作者
to h14zpsn: 谢谢冰冻啊~~嗯~~饭饭一定注意这一点哇~~对哦~~木桶原理啊~~

to linuszhong: 表郁闷啊~~在职的能抽出时间G就很不容易了哇~~~加油!
202#
发表于 2012-2-15 14:05:09 | 只看该作者
我觉得还是从GMAT例题里体会"as well as",我个人感觉,通常有"另起炉灶"的意思.如跟前面衔接特别紧密,就不用as well as.记得Ron似乎说过这个比较subtle的语言点。

这道题很典型:http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/tulipomania-t100.html
-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/2/15 8:06:36)



谢谢baby姐姐~~~~~饭饭这里把解释引用过来~~~不涉及版权问题吧~~呦~~担心滴说~~

This sentence can be broken into a Core and Modifier Tree (to be seen in the Sentence Correction Slam, the forum doesn't really display an appropriate table).

Examples of "tulipomania," a term coined from the tulip craze of the seventeenth-century in the Netherlands, include speculative bubbles in South Seas trading rights in the 1720s, Victorian real estate in the 1880s, the U.S. stock market in the 1920s, and the obsession for Beanie Babies in the 1990s.

The tree highlights (or would highlight) a problem with parallelism in the list of four items that are examples of speculative bubbles. According to the sentence, there were speculative bubbles in trading rights, real estate, a stock market and an obsession. The first three represent the items upon which the speculative bubble was built; the fourth does not.

(A) This choice is incorrect as it repeats the original sentence.

(B) CORRECT. This choice corrects the parallelism error by removing the fourth item, the obsession, from the list of things that were speculative bubbles. Now, the sentence says that "examples... include speculative bubbles" in trading rights, real estate and the stock market and "[examples... include] the obsession for Beanie Babies." It is not necessary to repeat the words "examples include" in the second part of the sentence.

(C) While this choice corrects the parallelism error by removing the fourth item, the obsession, from the list of things that were speculative bubbles, it introduces a modifier error. The initial phrase "coined from..." is followed by the noun "examples." However, the term "tulipomania" was coined from the tulip craze; the examples were not coined from the craze.

(D) This choice does not correct the original parallelism error. According to the sentence, there were speculative bubbles in trading rights, real estate, a stock market and an obsession. The first three represent the items upon which the speculative bubble was built; the fourth does not.

(E) This choice does not correct the original parallelism error. According to the sentence, there were speculative bubbles in trading rights, real estate, a stock market and an obsession. The first three represent the items upon which the speculative bubble was built; the fourth does not. In addition,the sentence introduces confusion because it implies that the later examples of speculative bubbles were "included" in, or a part of, the original tulipomania.

This is a ROUGH problem, so don't be discouraged if you struggled with it.

Hope that this is helpful. Warm regards, - Andrew

guest:Andrew:

In your explanation in answering the question, you have not quoted "as well as" which was part of the original question. Did you assume that the quoted term did not make any difference?

Thanks

ManhattanGMAT staff
The original choice didn't include the phrase "as well as," but the correct answer does.

B. Examples of "tulipomania," a term coined from the seventeenth-century tulip craze in the Netherlands, include speculative bubbles in South Seas trading rights in the 1720s, Victorian real estate in the 1880s, and the U.S. stock market in the 1920s, as well as ... (the obsession for Beanie Babies in the 1990s).

Notice that "as well as" starts a NEW list, one that functions at a higher level. The structure is as follows:

Examples... include

I. speculative bubbles in
a) South Seas trading rights in the 1720s,
b) Victorian real estate in the 1880s,
and
c) the U.S. stock market in the 1920s,

as well as

II. the obsession for Beanie Babies in the 1990s.

The outer list is I and II. The inner list is a, b, c.

You need the "as well as" to make a clear separation from the inner list that is immediately preceding. (In some cases, you can use another "and" in place of "as well as," but that works best when you can repeat a preposition from the outer list.) Hope this is helpful! Chris

guest
Hi,

After reading this sentence, I was not able to identify whether "the obsession for Beanie Babies in the 1990s. " is another example or a part of list of "speculative bubbles in"

Could you please help me in understanding how did you identify that "the obsession for Beanie Babies in the 1990s. " is another example. In other words, please elaborate how did you come up with following structure?

Examples... include

I. speculative bubbles in
a) South Seas trading rights in the 1720s,
b) Victorian real estate in the 1880s,
and
c) the U.S. stock market in the 1920s,

as well as

II. the obsession for Beanie Babies in the 1990s.

ManhattanGMAT stuff
You can have speculative bubbles in things that are being traded / sold, such as trading rights, real estate, the stock market, etc.

The beanie babies part, though, starts with the word "obsession" - so technically, you'd be saying that there was a speculative bubble in an obsession. That doesn't make any sense - the speculative bubble would be in beanie babies, not in an obsession.

Since none of the choices remove the "obsession" part of the construction, we have to start a new list: examples include speculative bubbles (in A, B, and C) as well as the obsession (for D). Both "speculative bubbles" and an "obsession" can be examples, so that's okay.

_________________
Stacey Koprince
Instructor
Director of Online Community
ManhattanGMAT



这里引渡过来利于大家阅读方便~~~哎~~~谢谢baby姐姐啊~!
这里衷心希望manhattan的人们表来CD玩~~~来玩也表来困境玩~~~来困境玩也表来GT的贴纸玩~~来GT的贴纸玩也表有兴致往后翻~~~copyright问题~~啊~~
-- by 会员 泾渭不凡 (2012/2/15 8:39:12)



谢谢饭饭,谢谢babybear的分享啊,太好了
203#
发表于 2012-2-15 15:32:12 | 只看该作者
to h14zpsn: 谢谢冰冻啊~~嗯~~饭饭一定注意这一点哇~~对哦~~木桶原理啊~~

to linuszhong: 表郁闷啊~~在职的能抽出时间G就很不容易了哇~~~加油!
-- by 会员 泾渭不凡 (2012/2/15 13:47:48)


这都是借口啊,说明自己努力的还不够哇
204#
发表于 2012-2-15 16:05:22 | 只看该作者
我觉得还是从GMAT例题里体会"as well as",我个人感觉,通常有"另起炉灶"的意思.如跟前面衔接特别紧密,就不用as well as.记得Ron似乎说过这个比较subtle的语言点。

这道题很典型:http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/tulipomania-t100.html
-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/2/15 8:06:36)



谢谢baby姐姐~~~~~饭饭这里把解释引用过来~~~不涉及版权问题吧~~呦~~担心滴说~~

This sentence can be broken into a Core and Modifier Tree (to be seen in the Sentence Correction Slam, the forum doesn't really display an appropriate table).

Examples of "tulipomania," a term coined from the tulip craze of the seventeenth-century in the Netherlands, include speculative bubbles in South Seas trading rights in the 1720s, Victorian real estate in the 1880s, the U.S. stock market in the 1920s, and the obsession for Beanie Babies in the 1990s.

The tree highlights (or would highlight) a problem with parallelism in the list of four items that are examples of speculative bubbles. According to the sentence, there were speculative bubbles in trading rights, real estate, a stock market and an obsession. The first three represent the items upon which the speculative bubble was built; the fourth does not.

(A) This choice is incorrect as it repeats the original sentence.

(B) CORRECT. This choice corrects the parallelism error by removing the fourth item, the obsession, from the list of things that were speculative bubbles. Now, the sentence says that "examples... include speculative bubbles" in trading rights, real estate and the stock market and "[examples... include] the obsession for Beanie Babies." It is not necessary to repeat the words "examples include" in the second part of the sentence.

(C) While this choice corrects the parallelism error by removing the fourth item, the obsession, from the list of things that were speculative bubbles, it introduces a modifier error. The initial phrase "coined from..." is followed by the noun "examples." However, the term "tulipomania" was coined from the tulip craze; the examples were not coined from the craze.

(D) This choice does not correct the original parallelism error. According to the sentence, there were speculative bubbles in trading rights, real estate, a stock market and an obsession. The first three represent the items upon which the speculative bubble was built; the fourth does not.

(E) This choice does not correct the original parallelism error. According to the sentence, there were speculative bubbles in trading rights, real estate, a stock market and an obsession. The first three represent the items upon which the speculative bubble was built; the fourth does not. In addition,the sentence introduces confusion because it implies that the later examples of speculative bubbles were "included" in, or a part of, the original tulipomania.

This is a ROUGH problem, so don't be discouraged if you struggled with it.

Hope that this is helpful. Warm regards, - Andrew

guest:Andrew:

In your explanation in answering the question, you have not quoted "as well as" which was part of the original question. Did you assume that the quoted term did not make any difference?

Thanks

ManhattanGMAT staff
The original choice didn't include the phrase "as well as," but the correct answer does.

B. Examples of "tulipomania," a term coined from the seventeenth-century tulip craze in the Netherlands, include speculative bubbles in South Seas trading rights in the 1720s, Victorian real estate in the 1880s, and the U.S. stock market in the 1920s, as well as ... (the obsession for Beanie Babies in the 1990s).

Notice that "as well as" starts a NEW list, one that functions at a higher level. The structure is as follows:

Examples... include

I. speculative bubbles in
a) South Seas trading rights in the 1720s,
b) Victorian real estate in the 1880s,
and
c) the U.S. stock market in the 1920s,

as well as

II. the obsession for Beanie Babies in the 1990s.

The outer list is I and II. The inner list is a, b, c.

You need the "as well as" to make a clear separation from the inner list that is immediately preceding. (In some cases, you can use another "and" in place of "as well as," but that works best when you can repeat a preposition from the outer list.) Hope this is helpful! Chris

guest
Hi,

After reading this sentence, I was not able to identify whether "the obsession for Beanie Babies in the 1990s. " is another example or a part of list of "speculative bubbles in"

Could you please help me in understanding how did you identify that "the obsession for Beanie Babies in the 1990s. " is another example. In other words, please elaborate how did you come up with following structure?

Examples... include

I. speculative bubbles in
a) South Seas trading rights in the 1720s,
b) Victorian real estate in the 1880s,
and
c) the U.S. stock market in the 1920s,

as well as

II. the obsession for Beanie Babies in the 1990s.

ManhattanGMAT stuff
You can have speculative bubbles in things that are being traded / sold, such as trading rights, real estate, the stock market, etc.

The beanie babies part, though, starts with the word "obsession" - so technically, you'd be saying that there was a speculative bubble in an obsession. That doesn't make any sense - the speculative bubble would be in beanie babies, not in an obsession.

Since none of the choices remove the "obsession" part of the construction, we have to start a new list: examples include speculative bubbles (in A, B, and C) as well as the obsession (for D). Both "speculative bubbles" and an "obsession" can be examples, so that's okay.

_________________
Stacey Koprince
Instructor
Director of Online Community
ManhattanGMAT



这里引渡过来利于大家阅读方便~~~哎~~~谢谢baby姐姐啊~!
这里衷心希望manhattan的人们表来CD玩~~~来玩也表来困境玩~~~来困境玩也表来GT的贴纸玩~~来GT的贴纸玩也表有兴致往后翻~~~copyright问题~~啊~~
-- by 会员 泾渭不凡 (2012/2/15 8:39:12)


太考虑逻辑了,考场上我要遇上绝对死翘翘~~~
205#
发表于 2012-2-15 16:27:40 | 只看该作者
to livia2012: 姐姐客气啦~~姐姐一直分享好东西啊~~饭饭收益好多~
to linuszhong: 话说linusGG一直对自己要求很高哦~~那加油哇~~
to miss绿光:嗯~~饭饭介个也研究好一阵儿~~不过绿光考场上要是遇到这个题就保了~~明亮亮的高分裤裤题啊~~!
206#
发表于 2012-2-15 18:33:27 | 只看该作者
to livia2012: 姐姐客气啦~~姐姐一直分享好东西啊~~饭饭收益好多~
to linuszhong: 话说linusGG一直对自己要求很高哦~~那加油哇~~
to miss绿光:嗯~~饭饭介个也研究好一阵儿~~不过绿光考场上要是遇到这个题就保了~~明亮亮的高分裤裤题啊~~!
-- by 会员 泾渭不凡 (2012/2/15 16:27:40)


叔都成老头子了,再不抓紧就game over了
207#
发表于 2012-2-15 19:20:23 | 只看该作者
我觉得,这题目有别的方法做,假设我不懂"speculative bubble",不懂obsession这词,当然我必然不会懂"tulipomania"。我这么做:

首先锁定A/B在当中。原因很简单,必须像A这么表达
Examples of "X", a term ____, include ______________.
带引号的咚咚肯定唤作 a term,所以中间那个结构必然是appositive,必须紧跟着"X"。然后全句子主干必须是examples include ____.
稍微扫一眼BCE就能看出不对了。所以直接锁定原句,或者跟原句结构类似的B.

然后就是A/B之间看谁最好。读这个句子,最先发现的差异是:
A: the tulip craze of the seventeenth-century inthe Netherlands
B: the seventeenth-century tulip craze in theNetherlands
A感觉awkward,"noun + prep phrase + prep phrase"
B非常棒。将其中一个作为形容词。B这种表达在英语里很普遍,而且OG里面遇到过,好像类似"the 1911 Act"而不是"the Act of 1911" (具体题目不记得了,哪位记得的同学分享一下)
就选B了。

其实"noun + prep phrase + prep phrase"倒也不是说不可以,B里面就有:
speculative bubbles in South Seas trading rightsin the 1720s
不过我觉得那个
the seventeenth-century tulip craze in theNetherlands
显然更好

个人观点,欢迎讨论

我觉得还是从GMAT例题里体会"as well as",我个人感觉,通常有"另起炉灶"的意思.如跟前面衔接特别紧密,就不用as well as.记得Ron似乎说过这个比较subtle的语言点。

这道题很典型:http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/tulipomania-t100.html
-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/2/15 8:06:36)




谢谢baby姐姐~~~~~饭饭这里把解释引用过来~~~不涉及版权问题吧~~呦~~担心滴说~~

This sentence can be broken into a Core and Modifier Tree (to be seen in the Sentence Correction Slam, the forum doesn't really display an appropriate table).

Examples of "tulipomania," a term coined from the tulip craze of the seventeenth-century in the Netherlands, include speculative bubbles in South Seas trading rights in the 1720s, Victorian real estate in the 1880s, the U.S. stock market in the 1920s, and the obsession for Beanie Babies in the 1990s.

The tree highlights (or would highlight) a problem with parallelism in the list of four items that are examples of speculative bubbles. According to the sentence, there were speculative bubbles in trading rights, real estate, a stock market and an obsession. The first three represent the items upon which the speculative bubble was built; the fourth does not.

(A) This choice is incorrect as it repeats the original sentence.

(B) CORRECT. This choice corrects the parallelism error by removing the fourth item, the obsession, from the list of things that were speculative bubbles. Now, the sentence says that "examples... include speculative bubbles" in trading rights, real estate and the stock market and "[examples... include] the obsession for Beanie Babies." It is not necessary to repeat the words "examples include" in the second part of the sentence.

(C) While this choice corrects the parallelism error by removing the fourth item, the obsession, from the list of things that were speculative bubbles, it introduces a modifier error. The initial phrase "coined from..." is followed by the noun "examples." However, the term "tulipomania" was coined from the tulip craze; the examples were not coined from the craze.

(D) This choice does not correct the original parallelism error. According to the sentence, there were speculative bubbles in trading rights, real estate, a stock market and an obsession. The first three represent the items upon which the speculative bubble was built; the fourth does not.

(E) This choice does not correct the original parallelism error. According to the sentence, there were speculative bubbles in trading rights, real estate, a stock market and an obsession. The first three represent the items upon which the speculative bubble was built; the fourth does not. In addition,the sentence introduces confusion because it implies that the later examples of speculative bubbles were "included" in, or a part of, the original tulipomania.

This is a ROUGH problem, so don't be discouraged if you struggled with it.

Hope that this is helpful. Warm regards, - Andrew

guest:Andrew:

In your explanation in answering the question, you have not quoted "as well as" which was part of the original question. Did you assume that the quoted term did not make any difference?

Thanks

ManhattanGMAT staff
The original choice didn't include the phrase "as well as," but the correct answer does.

B. Examples of "tulipomania," a term coined from the seventeenth-century tulip craze in the Netherlands, include speculative bubbles in South Seas trading rights in the 1720s, Victorian real estate in the 1880s, and the U.S. stock market in the 1920s, as well as ... (the obsession for Beanie Babies in the 1990s).

Notice that "as well as" starts a NEW list, one that functions at a higher level. The structure is as follows:

Examples... include

I. speculative bubbles in
a) South Seas trading rights in the 1720s,
b) Victorian real estate in the 1880s,
and
c) the U.S. stock market in the 1920s,

as well as

II. the obsession for Beanie Babies in the 1990s.

The outer list is I and II. The inner list is a, b, c.

You need the "as well as" to make a clear separation from the inner list that is immediately preceding. (In some cases, you can use another "and" in place of "as well as," but that works best when you can repeat a preposition from the outer list.) Hope this is helpful! Chris

guest
Hi,

After reading this sentence, I was not able to identify whether "the obsession for Beanie Babies in the 1990s. " is another example or a part of list of "speculative bubbles in"

Could you please help me in understanding how did you identify that "the obsession for Beanie Babies in the 1990s. " is another example. In other words, please elaborate how did you come up with following structure?

Examples... include

I. speculative bubbles in
a) South Seas trading rights in the 1720s,
b) Victorian real estate in the 1880s,
and
c) the U.S. stock market in the 1920s,

as well as

II. the obsession for Beanie Babies in the 1990s.

ManhattanGMAT stuff
You can have speculative bubbles in things that are being traded / sold, such as trading rights, real estate, the stock market, etc.

The beanie babies part, though, starts with the word "obsession" - so technically, you'd be saying that there was a speculative bubble in an obsession. That doesn't make any sense - the speculative bubble would be in beanie babies, not in an obsession.

Since none of the choices remove the "obsession" part of the construction, we have to start a new list: examples include speculative bubbles (in A, B, and C) as well as the obsession (for D). Both "speculative bubbles" and an "obsession" can be examples, so that's okay.

_________________
Stacey Koprince
Instructor
Director of Online Community
ManhattanGMAT



这里引渡过来利于大家阅读方便~~~哎~~~谢谢baby姐姐啊~!
这里衷心希望manhattan的人们表来CD玩~~~来玩也表来困境玩~~~来困境玩也表来GT的贴纸玩~~来GT的贴纸玩也表有兴致往后翻~~~copyright问题~~啊~~
-- by 会员 泾渭不凡 (2012/2/15 8:39:12)



太考虑逻辑了,考场上我要遇上绝对死翘翘~~~
-- by 会员 miss绿光 (2012/2/15 16:05:22)

208#
发表于 2012-2-16 00:45:18 | 只看该作者
到处都是讨论的好贴!!
容我水一下,嘻嘻!
GT,饭饭,h14zpsn-冰冻童鞋,还有linuszhong 童鞋,加油呐!
209#
发表于 2012-2-16 01:34:04 | 只看该作者
到处都是讨论的好贴!!
容我水一下,嘻嘻!
GT,饭饭,h14zpsn-冰冻童鞋,还有linuszhong 童鞋,加油呐!
-- by 会员 phoebe0624 (2012/2/16 0:45:18)

谢谢啊~~~欢迎你也加入我们哈~~~
210#
发表于 2012-2-16 01:40:15 | 只看该作者
到处都是讨论的好贴!!
容我水一下,嘻嘻!
GT,饭饭,h14zpsn-冰冻童鞋,还有linuszhong 童鞋,加油呐!
-- by 会员 phoebe0624 (2012/2/16 0:45:18)


谢谢啊~~~欢迎你也加入我们哈~~~
-- by 会员 h14zpsn (2012/2/16 1:34:04)


冰冻你可来了。。你和GT一天都不见人。。。亲。。。phoebe姐姐有自己的进度贴纸哦。。
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