关于Ving用法—og12 sc 中21和og25比较，有点迷惑了

yakev6 · 发表于 2012-4-29 21:16:28

LS说的是，我确实没说清，我想说的现在分词做后置定语和和定语从句的关系，后来有被一道动名词和名词区分的题给扯远了... 学到了。 

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IMO, some disagreements... 1.这里的occurring做noun modifier，修饰divorce。 2.你说的E主谓不一致是指什么不一致，不好意思我木有看出来 3.C中状从省略的主语实质上市divorce，逻辑错误 这个题目答案是？ 

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33.The Wallerstein study indicates that even after a decade young men and women still experience some of the effects of a divorce occurring when a child. (A)occurring when a child (B)occurring when children (C)that occurred when a child (D)that occurred when they were children (E)that has occurred as each was a child 我来盖一层楼哈 不知道贴没贴这题？ occuring的逻辑主语肯定不是主语娃娃，AB不能选。 E主谓不一致， C状语从句中主谓都省了只能认为是和主句同主语，那么主谓就不一致了。 不知道理解的对不对。 <div style="text-align:right;">-- by 会员 yakev6 (2012/4/29 1:59:43)</div> 
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zhongshanlh · 发表于 2012-5-4 19:34:24

做题时候的又一个小小的收获吧，主要是也想得到大家的看法和意见： 55. Many house builders offer rent-to-buy programs that enable a family with insufficient savings for a conventional down payment to be able to move into new housing and to apply part of the rent to a purchase later. (A) programs that enable a family with insufficient savings for a conventional down payment to be able to move into new housing and to apply (B) programs that enable a family with insufficient savings for a conventional down payment to move into new housing and to apply (C) programs; that enables a family with insufficient savings for a conventional down payment to move into new housing, to apply (D) programs, which enables a family with insufficient savings for a conventional down payment to move into new housing, applying (E) programs, which enable a family with insufficient savings for a conventional down payment to be able to move into new housing, applying 答案D中，OG的解释是applying following a nonrestrictive clause suggests incorrectly that the builders, not the family, are applying the rent. 这里对于【，v-ing】结构的使用又出现了一个小小的注意——就是虽然我们说【，v-ing】描述的preceding clause，但是通过这个题目我们发现，v-ing也是可以发生跳跃的（并且是可以跳从句的），这里就跳跃了前面的非限定性定从。。。。 不知道这个是个特例还是说非限定性定从都要跳过去的？ 如果是一个限定性定从呢？

liulu007 · 发表于 2012-5-5 21:27:56

终于找到了。mark下！

jetyxo · 发表于 2012-5-5 22:26:50

好贴，顶上来大家多分享哦~~~

zhongshanlh · 发表于 2012-5-12 02:22:14

这个题目，在我看prep的时候遇到另外一个句子，让我产生了需要再对v-ing的一个用法需要再澄清一下的想法 prep 2-104 The yield per acre of coffee berries varies enormously, because 【a single tree, depending on its size and on climate and altitude, is able to produce enough berries to make between one and twelve pounds of dried beans a year.】 括号中这个句子是个典型的【S,v-ing,VO】结构，在这里我想我们不能就说这个depending是纯粹的noun modifier，只修饰a single tree。 在某种程度上，反而我感觉跟后面的VO部分联系更紧密。

wangjieava23 · 发表于 2012-5-12 06:16:31

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这题昨天还是前天和suri讨论过，一定一定不能理解为修饰object!!!!!!!!! OG11-24For members of the seventeenth-century Ashanti nation in Africa, animal-hide shields with wooden frames were essential items of military equipment, protecting warriors against enemy arrows and spears. shields were essential items of military equipment, protecting warriors against enemy arrows and spears. 如果你认为这是个noun modifier，那么就是根据touch rule, 修饰military equipment，或者是"essential items of military equipment". 可是，你从意思上看，你觉得"protecting warriors against enemy arrows and spears" 是military equipment的作用么？军事设备就是这么描述的？

显然，"protecting ..." 描述的是shields的作用，或者说补充说明这整个一句话的意思" shields were military equipment"，因此，一定一定是adverbial modifier. 类比： I am a Harvard student, entering my senior year.   （尽管我不是哈，编个句子） 显然，"entering my senior year"说的是我，或者修饰"I am a Harvard student"这件事情 不能理解为是一个noun modifier修饰"Harvard student"，因为你不能说所有哈佛学生都马上上大四。 <div style="text-align:right;">- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/2/5 16:27:33)</div> 
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 我前后矛盾的一沓糊涂了。

单调唱 · 发表于 2012-5-14 16:59:10

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这个题目，在我看prep的时候遇到另外一个句子，让我产生了需要再对v-ing的一个用法需要再澄清一下的想法 prep 2-104 The yield per acre of coffee berries varies enormously, because 【a single tree, depending on its size and on climate and altitude, is able to produce enough berries to make between one and twelve pounds of dried beans a year.】 括号中这个句子是个典型的【S,v-ing,VO】结构，在这里我想我们不能就说这个depending是纯粹的noun modifier，只修饰a single tree。 在某种程度上，反而我感觉跟后面的VO部分联系更紧密。<div style="text-align:right;">-- by 会员 zhongshanlh (2012/5/12 2:22:14)</div> 
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 我赞同此观点。不是纯粹的noun modifier，还有在逻辑关系上紧密联系后文。

zhongshanlh · 发表于 2012-5-14 20:05:46

嗯，希望baby姐姐回来以后看一下这个吧~ 

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这个题目，在我看prep的时候遇到另外一个句子，让我产生了需要再对v-ing的一个用法需要再澄清一下的想法 prep 2-104 The yield per acre of coffee berries varies enormously, because 【a single tree, depending on its size and on climate and altitude, is able to produce enough berries to make between one and twelve pounds of dried beans a year.】 括号中这个句子是个典型的【S,v-ing,VO】结构，在这里我想我们不能就说这个depending是纯粹的noun modifier，只修饰a single tree。 在某种程度上，反而我感觉跟后面的VO部分联系更紧密。<div style="text-align:right;">-- by 会员 zhongshanlh (2012/5/12 2:22:14)</div> 
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 我赞同此观点。不是纯粹的noun modifier，还有在逻辑关系上紧密联系后文。<div style="text-align:right;">-- by 会员 单调唱 (2012/5/14 16:59:10)</div> 
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babybearmm · 发表于 2012-5-15 01:55:56

The only exception that I v seen in gmat however the meaning is obvious as u noted. No need to memorize

上邪 · 发表于 2012-5-15 02:06:42

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The only exception that I v seen in gmat however the meaning is obvious as u noted. No need to memorize<div style="text-align:right;">-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/5/15 1:55:56)</div> 
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 哈哈抓住姐姐~~~

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