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sky85

以下是引用霁月在2007-8-6 18:51:00的发言：

D.Excepting usually appears in negative constructions ;it is not the correct idiom in this sentence.

顶起来,希望能有NN留意到~~~想知道是什么意思,谢谢~~

顶下, 望nn出来解答一下~~

yukiko

同问OG11th中对excepting的解释

Mayanist

以下是引用rhod在2004-9-1 10:22:00的发言：

OG的意思是没有Excepting的说法.

正确的说法是except, 或except for.

OG11 verbal review  #13并没有说没有excepting的说法:

            D Excepting usually appears in negative constructions; it is not the correct idiom in this sentence.
   

Longman上没有将except for 和excepting严格区分，两者都是介词，下面是其例句：

Jim answered all the questions excepting the last one. Jim回答了除最后一题外的所有问题 -- 没有回答最后一题 (negative)

It is a desert with no animals of any kind, excepting a few lizards. 除了有少量Lizards外，沙漠中没有其他动物。(positive -- 有少量）

Everyone went except for Scott and Dan.  Scott and Dan 没有去 （negative)

She felt fine except for being a little tired.

看完37, 58, 60楼，基本清楚了，谢谢前辈们！

37楼：D选项中excepting有两种可能用法（分词或者介词）,容易产生歧义；而且做分词时逻辑主语则有问题

看完37, 58, 60楼，基本清楚了，谢谢前辈们！

37楼：D选项中excepting有两种可能用法（分词或者介词）,容易产生歧义；而且做分词时逻辑主语则有问题

作介词--参见60楼：The use of excepting is considered by many people to be
      "acceptable only after not, only, always, or without".

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aeoluseros

对于excepting的歧义说法持保留意见...不过同意excepting多用于否定意义的句子.
acceptable only after not, only, always, or without.可以再加几个程度比较绝对化的词:all, no...

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zyitbest

以下是引用aeoluseros在2009-2-1 3:45:00的发言：

对于excepting的歧义说法持保留意见...不过同意excepting多用于否定意义的句子.
acceptable only after not, only, always, or without.可以再加几个程度比较绝对化的词:all, no...

谢谢斑竹！！

可是，ALWAYS、ONLY也算表示否定意义的词么？

刚刚查了下Encarta:

except, except for, or excepting:

Often the question of whether to use except or except for is a matter of indifference: We'd all seen the play except [or except for] Joe. Where the exception is closely paired with what it is an exception to, except is more usual: All of us except Joe had seen the play. Except for is used where the connection to what is being excepted is indirect, and is also more common at the beginning of a sentence: Except for that, we were in agreement. Excepting is the correct choice after not: She was the most important person in his life, not excepting his mother.

Microsoft? Encarta? 2006. ? 1993-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

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BLinging

except for

adv. 除了(除...外)

ivyfeng

状似大家为了excepting的问题很头大，我发表一下拙见~

首先，except是介词或连词，一般excepting不常见（不能把话说死，貌似大家查到很多出处），但是我认为一般GMAT中间的分词出现一共有三大作用，这里都米有用到。这道题的破题点本人认为就是两个：1 except for表示排除的东西和后面主句的不是一类事物，except表示排出物和主句是一类事物，besides表示包含 2 with的用法，with修饰名词后代五种结构，但是有一点，后不能加it之类的与修饰部分重复的宾语（这个在do中也有效）

UlysessHope

Except conjunction, preposition
used to introduce the only person, thing, action, fact, or situation about which a statement is not true:

The office is open every day except Sundays.
You can have any of the cakes except this one.

except for
Everyone went except for Scott and Dan.
She felt fine except for being a little tired.

Exceptingpreposition

used to introduce the only thing or person in a group about which a statement is not true [= except (for)]:
O'Rourke answered all the questions excepting the last one.

except, besides, apart from, unless

except means 'not including' or 'but not'

? They invited everyone except Julie.

besides means 'in addition to'

? Besides Italy (NOT except Italy), I would like to visit France and Spain.

apart from can be used with either meaning

? I ate everything apart from (OR except) the soup.

? What do you like doing apart from (OR besides) swimming?

except is not used to introduce another clause. Use unless or except if, except when, except while, except that

? We won't go unless you really want to (NOT except you really want to).

? I cycle to work, except when it rains (NOT except it rains).

In spoken English, people sometimes leave out 'that'

? The play went well, except (that) a few people forgot their lines.

熊先生

rhod 发表于 2004-9-1 10:22
OG的意思是没有Excepting的说法. 正确的说法是except, 或except for.

对于D选项，OG先说excepting通常用于negative constructions，后面又说不是正确的idiom形式，好不理解。。。