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tania · 发表于 2005-6-4 16:37:00

以下是引用kevincao在2005-4-3 19:42:00的发言：

查了longman字典(D)中的excepting

excepting preposition

used to introduce the only thing or person in a group about which a statement is not true
- synonym except (for)

O'Rourke answered all the questions excepting the last one

excepting和except (for)同意呀，都是介词，为什么错呢

我也有同样的问题，请nn们帮忙解释一下，好吗？

caroline76 · 发表于 2005-6-5 20:52:00

102的with短语修饰concert,是必不可少的，必须表达清楚

113是独立主格吧，不一样的

cloudwind · 发表于 2005-6-9 01:05:00

excepting (prep)

used to introduce the only thing or person in a group about which a statement is not true
- synonym except (for)screen.width-500)this.style.width=screen.width-500;">

O'Rourke answered all the questions excepting the last one

excepting和except (for)

我看到這裡還是不很瞭解為什麼OG要寫 In D, the use of Excepting in place of the
preposition Except for is unidiomatic. 一來字典上明明就有這樣的用法（例句：He answered
all the questions excepting the last one. They were all saved excepting
the captain.），所以只能夠說服自己ETS prefer "except for"而不偏好"excepting"？

請問有沒有牛牛可以提出其他題（OG上似乎沒有）佐證，不管是支持或是反證都好。謝謝。

welkin · 发表于 2005-7-1 23:40:00

再顶一下，好像对ecexpting...，sth...是否正确还没定论，而且except for...，sth...有没有逻辑主语问题呢？ except for修饰的又是什么呢？

tania · 发表于 2005-7-27 17:34:00

以下是引用rhod在2004-7-23 12:01:00的发言：

理由OG在前一句里解释了，the participle staging inappropriately expresses ongoing rather than completed action,

就是不应该用现在分词来表达一个已经完成的状态。

这不应该属于unidiomatic吧？

请哪位nn再给解释一下好吗？先谢谢了！

shaoheli · 发表于 2005-9-1 09:33:00

我也想知道excepting为什么错，与except有什么区别

livary · 发表于 2005-9-24 13:02:00

把题目重贴一遍:

102. Except for a concert performance that the composer himself staged in 1911, Scott Joplin’s ragtime opera Treemonisha was not produced until 1972, sixty-one years after its completion.

(A) Except for a concert performance that the composer himself staged

(B) Except for a concert performance with the composer himself staging it

(C) Besides a concert performance being staged by the composer himself

(D) Excepting a concert performance that the composer himself staged

(E) With the exception of a concert performance with the staging done by the composer himself

根据langman:

excepting,preposition:

1)used to introduce the only thing or person in a group about which a statement is not true [= except (for)]:

eg.O'Rourke answered all the questions excepting the last one.

如果说excepting和except for有相同的意思,那么我对OG102 D就有新的认识,不知道对不对?

1)excepting在此如果作为except的动名词解,那么 分词在句首,其逻辑主语为句子主语 ,主语为Scott Joplin’s ragtime opera,逻辑关系就错了;

2)excepting在此如果作介词解(我认为在题是作介词,因为OG解释: the use of Excepting in place of the preposition Except for is unidiomatic.那么就应该是可以互换的(前提是excepting作为介词可以放句首,根据现代英汉综合大辞典:excepting,prep.[用于句首或 not, without, always 后面]表"除...外").

现在的问题就是,D选项中excepting有两种含义,容易产生歧义.按照ETS的一贯思路,就应该是unidiomatic.

to be discuss...

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magic_cube · 发表于 2005-10-4 09:37:00

根据石林的讲解：

在连接不同类型的事物时，只能用except for——The house was silent except for a clock chiming in the living room.

另外，根据longman的解释，句首只能用except for——Except for a small part in an obscure movie years ago, Depardieu had never before acted in an English-language picture.

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seasnow · 发表于 2005-11-27 04:09:00

根据中学的记忆：except用于具体的事物，except for用于说明某个抽象的事情。

不知道概括得是否准确，但是例子是肯定没错的。

except for用于The composition is good except for its construction.

titatita · 发表于 2006-1-20 17:24:00

以下是引用livary在2005-9-24 13:02:00的发言：