对with结构的小总结，望NN及版主拍砖

superbat28

这个with结构真是折磨人，我到现在也不清楚什么是独立主格结构，with不靠谱。
For the last five years the Dutch economy has grown faster than Britain, France, or Germany, with the unemployment rate having remained well below that of the other three countries. （E）

A.    Britain, France, or Germany, with the unemployment rate having remained
B.    have those of Britain, France, or Germany, and the unemployment rate remaining
C.    have Britain, France, and Germany, and the unemployment rate has remained
D.    the economy of Britain, France, and Germany, with the unemployment rate that has remained
E.    the economies of Britain, France, and Germany, and the unemployment rate has remained
这道题D的with结构错在用了定语从句？是不是with的符合结构是没有这种形式的？只能是with+名词+动词ing/动词过去分词/介宾短语/形容词？

-- by 会员 sanlingjie (2011/9/3 9:53:53)

我觉得错在这里的with是定语结构。首先要有一个句子的层次感，比如下面两个句子吧~
The Dutch economy has grown faster than the economy of Bratain, and the unemployment rate has remained below that of Bratain.
如果是这样的句子，那就是两个平起平坐的句子，一个说Dutch economy怎样，另一个说enemployment rate怎样，并没有强调任何一方。

换一个：The Dutch economy has grown faster than the economy of Bratian, with the unemployment rate remianing below that of Bratain.
如果是这个句子，那就是说Dutch的economy发展的Bratain的快，与此同时伴随着的，unemployment rate也低。

但是D选项，那个with不是独立主格的形式，原句子就相当于The Dutch economy has grown faster than the economy of Bratian, with the unemployment rate (that has remianed below that of Bratain).
括号里不是句子主要层次上的东西，那这句话表意就没有完全，所以错了~

sanlingjie

。。。。。我再理理。。。with很头疼

纳丁Cat

bat 的啊，顶顶，挺有用

daisyの小夢想

重新研读了一遍bat的with结构总结，嗯嗯，对于with的用法和是否有歧义清晰了，以后遇到有with的题到带着这样的思路去看。

若雪

抱住DAISY~~~我正好也在纠结WITH的题目~刚顶了道题上去。。就看到了这个贴被顶了上来~~~现在BAT自己是斑斑啦~~忽忽~~

aeoluseros

http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-593659-2-1.html
bat这个帖子比较丰富，再搬个帖子过来，欢迎讨论.

UlysessHope

感谢！今天正被with结构弄的焦头烂额呢 就查到这个帖子了~！

innerwarrior

这个with结构真是折磨人，我到现在也不清楚什么是独立主格结构，with不靠谱。
For the last five years the Dutch economy has grown faster than Britain, France, or Germany, with the unemployment rate having remained well below that of the other three countries. （E）

A.    Britain, France, or Germany, with the unemployment rate having remained
B.    have those of Britain, France, or Germany, and the unemployment rate remaining
C.    have Britain, France, and Germany, and the unemployment rate has remained
D.    the economy of Britain, France, and Germany, with the unemployment rate that has remained
E.    the economies of Britain, France, and Germany, and the unemployment rate has remained
这道题D的with结构错在用了定语从句？是不是with的符合结构是没有这种形式的？只能是with+名词+动词ing/动词过去分词/介宾短语/形容词？

-- by 会员 sanlingjie (2011/9/3 9:53:53)

我觉得错在这里的with是定语结构。首先要有一个句子的层次感，比如下面两个句子吧~
The Dutch economy has grown faster than the economy of Bratain, and the unemployment rate has remained below that of Bratain.
如果是这样的句子，那就是两个平起平坐的句子，一个说Dutch economy怎样，另一个说enemployment rate怎样，并没有强调任何一方。

换一个：The Dutch economy has grown faster than the economy of Bratian, with the unemployment rate remianing below that of Bratain.
如果是这个句子，那就是说Dutch的economy发展的Bratain的快，与此同时伴随着的，unemployment rate也低。

但是D选项，那个with不是独立主格的形式，原句子就相当于The Dutch economy has grown faster than the economy of Bratian, with the unemployment rate (that has remianed below that of Bratain).
括号里不是句子主要层次上的东西，那这句话表意就没有完全，所以错了~

-- by 会员 superbat28 (2011/9/3 10:36:05)

有道理啊～。。。可不可以这样理解啊：
1，看with后面到底是独立主格形式还是N+that/who的形式。
2.1
如果是N+that/who的形式，就类似于同位语，看N所对应的前面的名词是否有解释关系，如果像这题Dutch economy和失业率完全木有关系，就杀！但所对应的名词应该是前面那句的主语，而不是就近的名词（关于名词对应不是很确认。。。）
2.2
如果是独立主格形式，那就是做状语，表伴随，修饰前面的动词，而该动词的主语，就该是该动作的逻辑主语。（表原因除外，那个木有逻辑主语滴）

superbat28

2.1似乎有些问题。with N+that/who其实就相当于with N... 后面那个that/who是修饰N的定语从句，可以说是另一个层次的东西。也就是说：主层次是句子主谓宾，第二个层次是with+N，而这个是一个【限定性修饰或非限定性修饰】；第三个层次是that/who，是用来修饰那个N的。

其实说白了就是这样：The dog with a long tail is Mary's dog.      with+N结构，用法就是做定语修饰dog的嘛。

innerwarrior

2.1似乎有些问题。with N+that/who其实就相当于with N... 后面那个that/who是修饰N的定语从句，可以说是另一个层次的东西。也就是说：主层次是句子主谓宾，第二个层次是with+N，而这个是一个【限定性修饰或非限定性修饰】；第三个层次是that/who，是用来修饰那个N的。

其实说白了就是这样：The dog with a long tail is Mary's dog.      with+N结构，用法就是做定语修饰dog的嘛。

-- by 会员 superbat28 (2011/10/16 0:58:55)

谢谢Bat的回复，那这个是限定还是非限定呢？是不是按with前有没有逗号区分。
另外，这个修饰是修饰谁？最靠近的名词还是主句的主语，核心词还是整体？
谢谢哈：）