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robertchu

Just stopped by and saw this hugely long discussion.  Although I haven’t been involved in this for quite a while, I feel that I should contribute my 2 cents and try to draw some sense of closure to this question.

I choose A.

D, with two modifying phrases (one present participle and one past participle) between the subject and the verb, is very awkward.  Nobody will say or write sentence like this unless in some twisted ETS questions.

On the other hand, A is no doubt the best answer.  Why?  See this:

Minivans (carry as many as seven passengers) and, ([compared with most sport utility vehicles], cost less, get better gas mileage, allow passengers to get in and out more easily, and have a smoother ride).

It’s both grammatically correct and logically sound.

One more comment: very few SUVs can carry as many as seven passengers.  So the “carry as many as seven passengers” is not used to set up the logical context for the comparison between Minivan and SUV.

无痕若雪

选A！

dajiqi

这道题目越看越有味道. 我选A.

其实翻译出来就可以看出A 要比D强, 更好的表达了意思, 即MINIVAN的优越性:

MINIVAN可以装载7个人之多, 并且(and, 表示递近的意思)与SUV比起来更A,B,C and D

选项D 并没有大错, 只是比较起来, 不如A 好.

Minivans, carrying as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less, get better gas mileage, allow passengers to get in and out more easily, and have a smoother ride.

最好改为:

Compared with most sport utility vehicles, Minivans, carrying as many as seven passengers, cost less, get better gas mileage, allow passengers to get in and out more easily, and have a smoother ride.

是不是更好看一些, 而且, 过去分词的修饰也更加得体, 明确.

石头人说 ”其实，这个句子想表达的意思有很强的对比性，即：Minivan虽然可以坐多达7个人（比SUV多），但是却比SUV省油，等等。”

为什么不能说该句子想表达的意思有很强的递近的意思呢?

如果要表达对比转折的意思, 在原句中应该有提到SUV载客比MINIVAN少, 但是却在很多方面消耗还大….

欢迎讨论

flowerrainn

虽然答案没有定论,但A这种 大AND 套小AND 的形式OG的确有例

Some bat caves, like honeybee hives, have residents that take on different duties such as defending the entrance, acting as sentinels and to sound a warning at the approach of danger, and scouting outside the cave for new food and roosting sites.

(A) acting as sentinels and to sound

(B) acting as sentinels and sounding

(C) to act as sentinels and sound

(D) to act as sentinels and to sound（B）

(E) to act as a sentinel sounding

但从逻辑意思上讲,好像又该选D

[此贴子已经被作者于2004-11-18 2:55:15编辑过]

pinkrouge

D

tempture

很耐心的看完了10页，彻底迷惑了....从逻辑意思来说，我觉得D比较对，但是A确实没有错

爱维的天

GWD3-39
呵呵!这题的讨论可很长啰!
我也是选﹙D﹚啦!
只是我觉得﹙A﹚这样的表达方式虽然”文法”上可以，
但没有﹙D﹚好就是了
两边支持的人都有，看以什么条件为优先考虑就是了.

hpp920

支持A

Sebastian

以下是引用bachordersee在2004-7-15 23:05:00的发言：

对于Ｄ的主要争论主要是　carrying as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles  两个修饰成分的指代问题。　

可是仔细想一想　拿大活人和汽车比？可能吗？歧义歧义，不能脱离意思语义只从形式上考虑问题。这里根本没有歧义现象。

所以认为Ｄ是有道理的　

欢迎指正。

希望大牛指点一下，什么时候能判断为歧义？是否如bachordersee所说，须当两种说法都不会明显得出荒谬意思的情况下，才可判定为歧义？

jadelo

以下是引用tempture在2004-12-3 10:20:00的发言：
很耐心的看完了10页，彻底迷惑了....从逻辑意思来说，我觉得D比较对，但是A确实没有错

這一題還沒有定論嗎？

為什麼很多NN都覺得A沒有錯呢？

個人以為，A犯了個雖不起眼但很嚴重的錯誤：它把逗號放在連接詞"and"之後了。

以下節錄自某英文語法和寫作網站：

When a parenthetical element — an interjection, adverbial modifier, or even an adverbial clause — follows a coordinating conjunction used to connect two independent clauses, we do not put a comma in front of the parenthetical element.

·         The Red Sox were leading the league at the end of May, but of course, they always do well in the spring. [no comma after "but"]

·         The Yankees didn't do so well in the early going, but frankly, everyone expects them to win the season. [no comma after "but"]

·         The Tigers spent much of the season at the bottom of the league, and even though they picked up several promising rookies, they expect to be there again next year. [no comma after "and"]

(This last piece of advice relies on the authority of William Strunk's Elements of Style. Examples our own.)

這題的"compared with most sport utility vehicles" 很明顯就是parenthetical的用法，而這樣的插入語放在連接詞(如and)之後時，在and 及插入的句子中間不應該有"，"。

此外，我翻遍了整本OG語法的部份，找不到有"....and,....."這樣的結構的，只有 "....., and....."的結構。(當然，也許是我眼花沒找著，還請有疑惑者一起來幫忙找找看)