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New hardy varieties of rice show promise of producing high yields without the costly requirements of irrigation and application of commercial fertilizer by earlier high-yielding varieties.

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LES MM问过的问题,尚未有答案

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楼主
发表于 2004-5-27 01:09:00 | 只看该作者

LES MM问过的问题,尚未有答案

a of b, c, and d of e,


请问大家这里前后两个of的归属问题,哪个包含哪个,哪个又先于哪个


如何判断of的归属问题呐?语法书上只有A of B的解释,但是多个并列的时候就不明白如何判断了


企盼NN!!!

沙发
发表于 2004-5-27 01:20:00 | 只看该作者

Xiaoxue,


The only way to understand the phrase may be (a of b), c, and (d of e)


a of b (and) c, and d of e (and cannot be omitted)


a of b, and (c of and d of e).


To be discussed....

板凳
发表于 2004-5-27 01:42:00 | 只看该作者
C in the middle is very 不爽,why not, C, A of B and D of E?
地板
发表于 2004-5-27 01:46:00 | 只看该作者

谢谢雪落无声mm帮我顶啊!

又看了几题OG,发现这种用法就是会引起歧义的。所以尽量避免或可有其他方法保证不产生歧义。下面举个例子:

128. New hardy varieties of rice show promise of producing high yields without the costly requirements of irrigation and application of commercial fertilizer by earlier high-yielding varieties.

(A) requirements of irrigation and application of commercial fertilizer by earlier high-yielding varieties

(B) requirements by earlier high-yielding varieties of application of commercial fertilizer and irrigation

(C) requirements for application of commercial fertilizer and irrigation of earlier high-yielding varieties

(D) application of commercial fertilizer and irrigation that was required by earlier high-yielding varietiesE

(E) irrigation and application of commercial fertilizer that were required by earlier high-yielding varieties

Choice E, the best answer, clearly and grammatically expresses the idea that two costly procedures, irrigation and the application of... fertilizer, were required by earlier high-yielding varieties of rice. In A, the placement of by earlier... varieties immediately after application of fertilizer suggests that the varieties applied the fertilizer. In B and D, the phrase application of... fertilizer and irrigation is ambiguous in meaning: it cannot be clearly determined whether applying fertilizer and irrigating are a single operation or two distinct operations. In C, only irrigation—not both irrigation and fertilization—is clearly associated with the earlier... varieties of rice.

偶觉得这里irrigation and application of commercial fertilizer 可以有两种理解:
1.( irrigation and application) of commercial fertilizer 这个是单数概念
2. irrigation and application of commercial fertilizer  这个是复数概念
但是因为后面紧跟的定语从句的谓语是复数were所以避免了歧义。

为什么1会是单数概念,偶也不太确定,但请看下面的例题:
60.   According to a recent poll, owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land is still a goal of a majority of young adults, like that of earlier generations.

(A) like that of earlier generations

(B) as that for earlier generations

(C) just as earlier generations did

(D) as have earlier generations(E)

(E) as it was of earlier generations

The intended comparison should be completed by a clause beginning with as and containing a subject and verb that correspond to the subject and verb of the main clause. In E, the best choice, it refers unambiguously to the phrasal subject owning... land, the verb was corresponds to is, and today’s young adults are appropriately compared to earlier generations. Choices A and B lack a verb corresponding to is and a clear referent for that. Choices C and D are confusing and illogical because their verbs, did and have, cannot substitute for is in the main clause.

请NN指正!谢谢!

5#
发表于 2004-5-27 02:54:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用LES在2004-5-27 1:46:00的发言:

谢谢雪落无声mm帮我顶啊!


又看了几题OG,发现这种用法就是会引起歧义的。所以尽量避免或可有其他方法保证不产生歧义。下面举个例子:

128. New hardy varieties of rice show promise of producing high yields without the costly requirements of irrigation and application of commercial fertilizer by earlier high-yielding varieties.


(A) requirements of irrigation and application of commercial fertilizer by earlier high-yielding varieties


(B) requirements by earlier high-yielding varieties of application of commercial fertilizer and irrigation


(C) requirements for application of commercial fertilizer and irrigation of earlier high-yielding varieties


(D) application of commercial fertilizer and irrigation that was required by earlier high-yielding varietiesE


(E) irrigation and application of commercial fertilizer that were required by earlier high-yielding varieties


Choice E, the best answer, clearly and grammatically expresses the idea that two costly procedures, irrigation and the application of... fertilizer, were required by earlier high-yielding varieties of rice. In A, the placement of by earlier... varieties immediately after application of fertilizer suggests that the varieties applied the fertilizer. In B and D, the phrase application of... fertilizer and irrigation is ambiguous in meaning: it cannot be clearly determined whether applying fertilizer and irrigating are a single operation or two distinct operations. In C, only irrigation—not both irrigation and fertilization—is clearly associated with the earlier... varieties of rice.



偶觉得这里irrigation and application of commercial fertilizer 可以有两种理解:
1.( irrigation and application) of commercial fertilizer 这个是单数概念
2. irrigation and application of commercial fertilizer  这个是复数概念
但是因为后面紧跟的定语从句的谓语是复数were所以避免了歧义。


LES MM. I do not consider "irrigation of commerical fertilizer" sensible.


To be discussed....

6#
发表于 2004-5-27 06:31:00 | 只看该作者

I agree with weiyu. LES's interpretation 1 is unreasonable. "irrigation" should be parralel with "application of commercial fertilizer". But I always confused with when to use plural form instead of single form. for instance, OG 211.

7#
发表于 2004-5-27 12:26:00 | 只看该作者

同意weiyu的质疑。

但是我要说的是,从逻辑上完全可以判断这是错的。但是从语法上是完全可以这样理解。这也是一些难题常常使我们困惑的地方。我们常常在讨论时会说“从逻辑上......,但是语法修饰上......”

其实OG上常常说的修饰不明确就有这个意思。举个极端的例子。如果irrigation and application of commercial fertilizer 里面我们只认识and,of这两个单词,光从语法上,你会如何判断他的谓语的单复数呢?

8#
发表于 2004-5-27 12:51:00 | 只看该作者

(A of B)和C和(D of E)并列啊

只有这一种表达,没有任何歧义

a of b, c, and d of e如果b和c并列,两者之间要加and!!!!

所以楼主给的词组事实上没有任何歧义

另外

大家需要知道

and是连词在语法是比介词的属性大,所以他是第一性的

因此楼上的irrigation and application of commercial fertilizer 不会有歧义,因为and是第一性的所以必然是irrigation和application of commercial fertilizer 并列

of 作为介词根本不可能有资格cover前面的irrigation

这才是本质

如果你学过翻译并且对基础英文文法比较熟悉

就知道了

因为a of b, c, and d of e中如果b和c并列的话中间要加and的!!!

9#
发表于 2004-5-27 12:52:00 | 只看该作者
偶不知道自己表达的清楚没有
10#
发表于 2004-5-27 13:09:00 | 只看该作者

gigi, 按照你的理解,那么下面这个例子的并列是不是理解为两个有下划线的部分:


(owning) and (living in a freestanding house on its own land因为and是第一性的?


谢谢指导!


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