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Published in Harlem, the owner and editor of The Messenger were two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader.

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110. Published in Harlem, the owner and editor of The Messenger were two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader.
(A) Published in Harlem, the owner and editor of The Messenger were two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader.
(B) Published in Harlem, two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, were the owner and editor of The Messenger.
(C) Published in Harlem, The Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, and Chandler Owen.
(D) The Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, and published in Harlem.
(E) The owner and editor being two young journalists, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, The Messenger was published in Harlem.
答案是C没有问题,我不理解OG的解释:
1、Here, the incorrect placement of the modifying phrase published in Harlem makes the phrase describe the owner and editor when it should describe The Messenger. The use of the singular owner and editor is puzzling: did one journalist own and the other edit? Or did they jointly own and edit? A 会带来这样的疑问,那为什么C就能清楚交代谁owner and editor??因为我觉得C也可以理解为一个人owner另一人editor,或两个人合起来owner and editor??
2、It is also unclear which of the two journalists is described in the clause beginning who.难道who能跳跃修饰Chandler Owen或A. Philip Randolph, 还是两个都能修饰??到底who 能不能跳跃修饰??
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-1-15 19:29:38 | 只看该作者
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答案是C没有问题,我不理解OG的解释:
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.Here, the incorrect placement of the modifying phrase published in Harlem makes the phrase describe the owner and editor when it should describe The Messenger. The use of the singular owner and editor is puzzling: did one journalist own and the other edit? Or did they jointly own and edit? A 会带来这样的疑问,那为什么C就能清楚交代谁owner and editor??因为我觉得C也可以理解为一个人owner另一人editor,或两个人合起来owner and editor??


(C)  ublished in Harlem, The Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists,
A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, and Chandler Owen.C选项里,who从句就近修饰A.Philip Randolph,说明A这个人make his reputation as a labor leader 而不是AC两人

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It is also unclear which of the two journalists is described in the clause beginning who.难道who能跳跃修饰Chandler OwenA. Philip Randolph还是两个都能修饰??到底who 能不能跳跃修饰??



不是跳跃修饰,而是对于A and B, who…你没办法说清楚,who到底是修饰前者还是后者亦或是两者,但是因为有了Published in Harlem, The Messenger was owned and edited by two young journalists, A. Philip Randolph, who would later make his reputation as a labor leader, and Chandler Owen的表达,就很清楚了,因为who就是就近修饰A.philip Randolph

-- by 会员sasha_wen (2011/1/14 15:32:12)

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发表于 2011-3-19 11:40:51 | 只看该作者
UP,同问第一个问题,为什么A 会带来这样的疑问,那为什么C就能清楚交代谁owner and editor??
OG解释说The use of singular "owner and editor" is puzzling.
这个owner and editor 怎么是singular呢?

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发表于 2011-3-19 15:15:43 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2011-3-19 21:10:03 | 只看该作者
UP
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发表于 2011-3-19 22:28:04 | 只看该作者
UP,同问第一个问题,为什么A 会带来这样的疑问,那为什么C就能清楚交代谁owner and editor??
OG解释说The use of singular "owner and editor" is puzzling.
这个owner and editor 怎么是singular呢?

求各位大侠解答
-- by 会员 avernus (2011/3/19 11:40:51)


In A, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph are the appositive of journalists, so we don’t know who (his) exactly refers to C O or A.P R.

In C, who can only refer to A. P R.
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发表于 2011-3-20 11:50:18 | 只看该作者
UP,同问第一个问题,为什么A 会带来这样的疑问,那为什么C就能清楚交代谁owner and editor??
OG解释说The use of singular "owner and editor" is puzzling.
这个owner and editor 怎么是singular呢?

求各位大侠解答
-- by 会员 avernus (2011/3/19 11:40:51)





In A, Chandler Owen and A. Philip Randolph are the appositive of journalists, so we don’t know who (his) exactly refers to C O or A.P R.

In C, who can only refer to A. P R.
-- by 会员 jsu2008 (2011/3/19 22:28:04)




谢谢你的回复,其实我知道A和C中WHO指代不清的错误,我的问题不是Who make his reputation as a labor leader 而是Who own and edit THE MESSENGER.
不明白为什么A 的结构:the owner and editor of sth. were two young journalists 交代不清谁拥有,谁编辑的问题;而C结构:sth. was owned and edited by two.... 就能交代清楚两人共同拥有并编辑
而且OG说这个owner and editor 是singular,但原句后面不是有WERE么?
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发表于 2011-3-22 20:50:32 | 只看该作者
If X and Y were XX and YY, how can you know who is the owner and who is the editor?
But I think the problem is that the editor and owner is singular and it used 'were'.

[quote]
[quote][quote]UP,同问第一个问题,为什么A 会带来这样的疑问,那为什么C就能清楚交代谁owner and editor??
OG解释说The use of singular "owner and editor" is puzzling.
这个owner and editor 怎么是singular呢?

求各位大侠解答
-- by 会员 avernus (2011/3/19 11:40:51)
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-5-11 00:34:48 | 只看该作者
我的一些体会,大家拍砖
问题一:The use of the singular owner and editor is puzzling: did one journalist own and the other edit? Or did they jointly own and edit?(摘自OG12)
我认为对于A项the owner and editor ... were CO and PR ... 可以有两种理解:第一种是CO是owner 和PR是editor,或者是CO 是owner and editor和PR是owner and editor两种理解谓语都是were所以导致puzzling
但C项:was owned and edited用的是was说明一个owned另一个edited,没有歧义
问题二:不是跳跃修饰,而是对于A and B, who…你没办法说清楚,who到底是修饰前者还是后者亦或是两者
以上我的想法都是来自楼上好心的CDers的帮助,感谢楼上的CDers,当然也可能本人能力有限,还有牛牛们进一步确认我的体会,谢谢!
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