MBS (Melbourne Business School) current student takes questions

jiangliu

没想到MBS的国人还蛮多的。上次去那考GMAT的时候就遇到几个阿三。btw,我在你们临近的墨大上一学期part time，后来drop掉了，感觉澳洲的教育实在是骗钱。所以在这我帮不到想去MBS或者想来澳洲移民的同学们。但是目前找不到任何关于MBA有助于移民的政策。所以以移民为目的来MBS的同学请三思再三思！

新政策明年实施，那时工党将快要下台，完了下边是不是还要换政策还待定。新政策对于工作经验是有很不错的加分的，但是澳洲的怪圈是：没有PR，没有工作；没有工作，没有PR。

flora_1652

回楼上：实际上MBS在创办最初是企业资助的，后来墨大才参与进来，所以这边的教学基本独立，再加上一些教授都是从其他顶尖商学院来的，我想教学质量和国际商学院MBA课程并没有差别。
在澳洲找工作的确是和PR相关，虽然一些大公司（比如PWC）会解决PR问题，但其他很多公司还是会看。总而言之，我们是来回答问题，而不是解决问题，所以个人情况不同，需斟酌。

jiangliu

@flora_1652 i won't comment anything about MBS' quality, i will leave this for your honour.

But i do want to comment one thing in terms of what you said "一些大公司（比如PWC）会解决PR问题". I believe this is very misleading! I have been in Aus for almost 8 years and never seen or heard any "大公司" will provide this kind of service. The reason i say this is because i have seen many students **TRAPPED* into Australia because whoever promised them this kind of crap. Again as i said in another post, if you want to wash dishes in chinatown, go ahead. But if you want to work in a fancy office, hmmm, you must have PR or in process of waiting for it.

There is another trap called "TR". Don't believe it. No one would care if you add this in your resume. However, don't give up on Australia. 一些大公司 may help you to apply for working visa. But again, you must be very very good to convince them to do it for you. A MBA will NOT help, but what you have done before will be.

@HiCD can't agree more.

flora_1652

To Jiangliu:
I talked to consultants in PWC in the first week of MBA, that is why I was confident to bring it up. To some extent, I agree with you that it is one of the most difficult things if you want to stay in Australia after graduation from a MBA program without certain residency.
So as what I said, some problems are not what we can fix, and what we are supposed to give an answer here. It's all about personal choices.

freddong

Before this month, it was almost impossible to get PR after you graduate with MBA. But now you may have some chance because of new immigration policy whose total mark is 65 covering age, two years program, Australian degree and IELTS. According to this new policy, you may get 60 and just need to find another 5 point.~~~

But just like Flora said, it depends on your personal choice. Actually and personally, I do not think Australia is a good place to work but an amazing place to live if you do not pursuade high pay (perhaps $60K+) or career promotion.~~~

jiangliu

"another 5 point"........ a deja vu for me. ha ha those smart asses are good at manipulating this math game, they been doing this since 2001.

I think Australia MBA should easily get avg. $100K after graduation. Thats approx. $55k cash in your hand after tax and super.

shutianyu

对于不同的人来说，因为经历不同，所以效果不同，见解也不同。MBS的学习时间太短，只有一年多，但因为密集授课，所以学习内容其实不少。这样的学习，不同背景、经历、基础的同学经历了，会有完全不一样的效果。我们不能要求千人一面，也就不能把大家放在同一个平台上去品头论足。MBS的学生在这里，用自己的亲身经历发表一些见解，没有对错，只是每个人对于事物的理解不同而已。我们希望给更多的人，尤其对报考MBS MBA有兴趣的人，带来一些更为深入的看法，至于是否有用，留待读者结合自己的经历去体会理解就是了。
我的评论，为了方便后来读者的阅读，都放在第一页了。

shutianyu

@jiangliu:
不是吧，十万？如果是澳元的话，在MBS过往的毕业生以及现役的诸多同胞中，我还真没见到有多少达到这个水平的。国人在这里就业，依旧不是很乐观。

flora_1652

终于考完期末考试了！第一个学期的确不轻松！不过马上要享受第一个夏日圣诞节了，心情还是很激动的：）也祝大家圣诞、新年愉快！有问题随时问～