在职备战——大道至简

livia2012

Editor: Articles in Gardening Magazine often spur sales of the plants they describe, particularly among people new to gardening. Accordingly, we will no longer publish articles or accept advertisements praising the beauty of rare wildflowers. Most such plants sold to gardeners have been difficult to propagate under cultivation, so plant sellers often collect them in the wild. Our new policy is part of our efforts to half this yearly plundering of our native plant populations.

Which of the following, if true, casts the most doubt on the wisdom of the magazine's new policy as a way of pursuing the intended effect ?
(A) When people new to gardening buy plants, they often fail to take adequate care of the plants that they buy and become discourged from buying those varieties again.
(B) Plant sellers who sell rare wildflowers have no reasonably inexpensive alternate way to offer their wares directly to new gardens.
(C) The demand for rare wildflowers rarely exceeds the number of such plants that can be collected in the wild by plant sellers.
(D) The propagation of rare wildflowers often depends on the plant's interaction with other organisms in their environment such as plants that create suitable soil conditions or insects and birds that disperse seeds.
(E) Revenues from sales of plants collected in the wild are supporting the discovery of new low-cost techniques enabling rare wildflowers to be readily propagated in nurseries.


这题Weaken应该选啥？我咋觉得没有喃？ADE我觉得无关  BC是support的吧？  以前看个讨论帖就说如果support就应该选C   好像是荷花姐给的讨论帖，一下子找不到了...我决定B也能support不？  那Weaken这题是不是就没选项啦？！？！   如果还有个选项说其他的园艺杂志也效仿这家杂志这样做 是不是也支持啊？请赐教啊>_<

-- by 会员 爱兔兰 (2010/10/1 20:10:35)

http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_Math/thread-485171-1-1.html
小兔，这是这道逻辑题上次的讨论帖，关于为什么加强选C的。不过看最近一些战友说，好像有很多人遇到这道逻辑的时候发现选项改写过了，但我依然觉得，仍然选C，如果问加强的话；不过有一个760大牛说应该选B，不过是改写过选项的B，我觉得要到考试时候认真看了，如果B改写后的意思更加贴切，应该再仔细斟酌下。

如果是削弱的话，应该选最后一项，就是会把卖花所得利润用来保护野花那个

livia2012

有条逻辑狗... NN们有空帮我瞅瞅   应该是1还是2？！？！


某个城市准备把连接其南部地区的大桥升级为一座新的桥。升级前的桥在船要经过时需要停止上面的车辆通行然后把两端升起来让船过去，因此对车辆通行影响较大。升级后桥会更高，而且桥墩之间的距离会更大。这样子的话当大船来的需要把桥抬起来的可能性就降低了。于是作者认为如此这般，修了大桥后对车辆通行的影响会变小。问的问题应该是challenge的。选项中有
1. 新桥和旧桥一样在抬起来之前需要提前一小时通知车辆们。
2. 有些船太大，即使新桥的两个桥墩之间的距离还是不够大。
3. 桥上的车道数量是原来的两倍。

-- by 会员 爱兔兰 (2010/10/1 19:01:46)

这题我个人认为选2,3是无关，1是干扰选项，因为1虽然阐释了新旧桥都需要提前1小时通知车辆，但是并不知道是否新桥会减少停车的频率，故不能选。2最直接，阐释即使改变了桥墩，但还不够大也就不能减少让大船通过的不便，故还是要频繁停车。

但个人认为，这原狗有个表述不清楚地方，究竟是原文侧重桥高了才使通船更方便？还是桥墩远了使通船更方遍？不同的因果关系，直接影响答案的选择。考试时候遇到还是要慎重

beiminghanxing

不知我爱姐姐身体如何了，如果没有好的话我倒是可以给点建议哈：上个月我就是由于睡地板着凉发低烧拉肚子一直好不了（我可是3年都不发烧的人）。后来因为太耽误时间所以去看了中医，给我开了两盒中成药：补中益气丸，附子理中丸，外加红糖姜汤很快就好了。姐姐可以去搜下看看这要是否对你的症哈！

爱兔兰

Editor: Articles in Gardening Magazine often spur sales of the plants they describe, particularly among people new to gardening. Accordingly, we will no longer publish articles or accept advertisements praising the beauty of rare wildflowers. Most such plants sold to gardeners have been difficult to propagate under cultivation, so plant sellers often collect them in the wild. Our new policy is part of our efforts to half this yearly plundering of our native plant populations.

Which of the following, if true, casts the most doubt on the wisdom of the magazine's new policy as a way of pursuing the intended effect ?
(A) When people new to gardening buy plants, they often fail to take adequate care of the plants that they buy and become discourged from buying those varieties again.
(B) Plant sellers who sell rare wildflowers have no reasonably inexpensive alternate way to offer their wares directly to new gardens.
(C) The demand for rare wildflowers rarely exceeds the number of such plants that can be collected in the wild by plant sellers.
(D) The propagation of rare wildflowers often depends on the plant's interaction with other organisms in their environment such as plants that create suitable soil conditions or insects and birds that disperse seeds.
(E) Revenues from sales of plants collected in the wild are supporting the discovery of new low-cost techniques enabling rare wildflowers to be readily propagated in nurseries.


这题Weaken应该选啥？我咋觉得没有喃？ADE我觉得无关  BC是support的吧？  以前看个讨论帖就说如果support就应该选C   好像是荷花姐给的讨论帖，一下子找不到了...我决定B也能support不？  那Weaken这题是不是就没选项啦？！？！   如果还有个选项说其他的园艺杂志也效仿这家杂志这样做 是不是也支持啊？请赐教啊>_<

-- by 会员 爱兔兰 (2010/10/1 20:10:35)

http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_Math/thread-485171-1-1.html
小兔，这是这道逻辑题上次的讨论帖，关于为什么加强选C的。不过看最近一些战友说，好像有很多人遇到这道逻辑的时候发现选项改写过了，但我依然觉得，仍然选C，如果问加强的话；不过有一个760大牛说应该选B，不过是改写过选项的B，我觉得要到考试时候认真看了，如果B改写后的意思更加贴切，应该再仔细斟酌下。

如果是削弱的话，应该选最后一项，就是会把卖花所得利润用来保护野花那个

-- by 会员 livia2012 (2010/10/1 20:47:20)

嗯，C的逻辑support我就是看那个帖子理解的，那个帖子的NN说B也是驳斥，因为销售这些稀有野生植物的人，没有办法给这些新人提供其他选择，那别人要买的话，就只能去野外再继续采集了，就不能很好保护这些植物。  那这样说，岂不是weaken的话B也对了？！？！不会吧...看有狗主人这么理解B：卖花人没有别的inexpensive的方式向new gardeners 推销这些珍稀花草。  那个alternate way到底是卖花人推销wild flowers的方法(除了这个杂志)还是采花的途径啊？！？！

livia2012

不知我爱姐姐身体如何了，如果没有好的话我倒是可以给点建议哈：上个月我就是由于睡地板着凉发低烧拉肚子一直好不了（我可是3年都不发烧的人）。后来因为太耽误时间所以去看了中医，给我开了两盒中成药：补中益气丸，附子理中丸，外加红糖姜汤很快就好了。姐姐可以去搜下看看这要是否对你的症哈！

-- by 会员 beiminghanxing (2010/10/1 21:23:25)

谢谢啊，今天比昨天好多了，不过还是会时不时绞痛，我明天去试试你说的中药，多谢多谢

爱兔兰

有条逻辑狗... NN们有空帮我瞅瞅   应该是1还是2？！？！


某个城市准备把连接其南部地区的大桥升级为一座新的桥。升级前的桥在船要经过时需要停止上面的车辆通行然后把两端升起来让船过去，因此对车辆通行影响较大。升级后桥会更高，而且桥墩之间的距离会更大。这样子的话当大船来的需要把桥抬起来的可能性就降低了。于是作者认为如此这般，修了大桥后对车辆通行的影响会变小。问的问题应该是challenge的。选项中有
1. 新桥和旧桥一样在抬起来之前需要提前一小时通知车辆们。
2. 有些船太大，即使新桥的两个桥墩之间的距离还是不够大。
3. 桥上的车道数量是原来的两倍。

-- by 会员 爱兔兰 (2010/10/1 19:01:46)

这题我个人认为选2,3是无关，1是干扰选项，因为1虽然阐释了新旧桥都需要提前1小时通知车辆，但是并不知道是否新桥会减少停车的频率，故不能选。2最直接，阐释即使改变了桥墩，但还不够大也就不能减少让大船通过的不便，故还是要频繁停车。

但个人认为，这原狗有个表述不清楚地方，究竟是原文侧重桥高了才使通船更方便？还是桥墩远了使通船更方遍？不同的因果关系，直接影响答案的选择。考试时候遇到还是要慎重

-- by 会员 livia2012 (2010/10/1 20:52:43)

嗯，看到好多个版本的狗，对于那个新桥到底是扩宽还是扩高，貌似有点不确定...

姐姐是说这个题要考虑那个停车频率？不过，姐姐这么一说 我应该明白了，1 就只是一个阐述事实，抬桥前要提前一小时，并没有说到对停车通行的具体影响情况，而2就有解释为啥新桥还是没法解决交通问题！  嗯，谢谢姐姐~

发现通过狗来分析逻辑，还是有缺陷...那个逻辑经常不太全... 不过还是有一些全的  等把狗的逻辑细分一遍之后 在把CR错题拿出来分析一遍吧... 唉~

livia2012

Editor: Articles in Gardening Magazine often spur sales of the plants they describe, particularly among people new to gardening. Accordingly, we will no longer publish articles or accept advertisements praising the beauty of rare wildflowers. Most such plants sold to gardeners have been difficult to propagate under cultivation, so plant sellers often collect them in the wild. Our new policy is part of our efforts to half this yearly plundering of our native plant populations.

Which of the following, if true, casts the most doubt on the wisdom of the magazine's new policy as a way of pursuing the intended effect ?
(A) When people new to gardening buy plants, they often fail to take adequate care of the plants that they buy and become discourged from buying those varieties again.
(B) Plant sellers who sell rare wildflowers have no reasonably inexpensive alternate way to offer their wares directly to new gardens.
(C) The demand for rare wildflowers rarely exceeds the number of such plants that can be collected in the wild by plant sellers.
(D) The propagation of rare wildflowers often depends on the plant's interaction with other organisms in their environment such as plants that create suitable soil conditions or insects and birds that disperse seeds.
(E) Revenues from sales of plants collected in the wild are supporting the discovery of new low-cost techniques enabling rare wildflowers to be readily propagated in nurseries.


这题Weaken应该选啥？我咋觉得没有喃？ADE我觉得无关  BC是support的吧？  以前看个讨论帖就说如果support就应该选C   好像是荷花姐给的讨论帖，一下子找不到了...我决定B也能support不？  那Weaken这题是不是就没选项啦？！？！   如果还有个选项说其他的园艺杂志也效仿这家杂志这样做 是不是也支持啊？请赐教啊>_<

-- by 会员 爱兔兰 (2010/10/1 20:10:35)

http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_Math/thread-485171-1-1.html
小兔，这是这道逻辑题上次的讨论帖，关于为什么加强选C的。不过看最近一些战友说，好像有很多人遇到这道逻辑的时候发现选项改写过了，但我依然觉得，仍然选C，如果问加强的话；不过有一个760大牛说应该选B，不过是改写过选项的B，我觉得要到考试时候认真看了，如果B改写后的意思更加贴切，应该再仔细斟酌下。

如果是削弱的话，应该选最后一项，就是会把卖花所得利润用来保护野花那个

-- by 会员 livia2012 (2010/10/1 20:47:20)

嗯，C的逻辑support我就是看那个帖子理解的，那个帖子的NN说B也是驳斥，因为销售这些稀有野生植物的人，没有办法给这些新人提供其他选择，那别人要买的话，就只能去野外再继续采集了，就不能很好保护这些植物。  那这样说，岂不是weaken的话B也对了？！？！不会吧...看有狗主人这么理解B：卖花人没有别的inexpensive的方式向new gardeners 推销这些珍稀花草。  那个alternate way到底是卖花人推销wild flowers的方法(除了这个杂志)还是采花的途径啊？！？！

-- by 会员 爱兔兰 (2010/10/1 21:25:25)

我这个题目就是按照上面帖子里的方法排除的B，或者你再试试，如果把C取非的话，就明显削弱文章的结论了，所以C肯定是加强的。至于削弱选项的话，E是最为合适的，他比B表意更加清晰，而且指向讨论的问题中心。
如果选项改写了，就只能看新改写的选项，需要临场判断。
逻辑这东西很容易受狗主思维影响，所以不要记得太死，反而容易影响发挥。

爱兔兰

不知我爱姐姐身体如何了，如果没有好的话我倒是可以给点建议哈：上个月我就是由于睡地板着凉发低烧拉肚子一直好不了（我可是3年都不发烧的人）。后来因为太耽误时间所以去看了中医，给我开了两盒中成药：补中益气丸，附子理中丸，外加红糖姜汤很快就好了。姐姐可以去搜下看看这要是否对你的症哈！

-- by 会员 beiminghanxing (2010/10/1 21:23:25)

谢谢啊，今天比昨天好多了，不过还是会时不时绞痛，我明天去试试你说的中药，多谢多谢

-- by 会员 livia2012 (2010/10/1 21:32:40)

唉~ 姐姐，你这身子真是让人心疼，看你天天绞痛，挺心疼的           话说今天下午我也有点胃绞痛...  还真是不好受啊~~  姐姐，一定要好起来呀！  话说，我舅妈今晚给我吃了姜泡水让我喝，说有效...   不知道你那个行不行...    （不过那姜泡水真不是一般的辣啊>_< 喉咙真不舒服）

爱兔兰

Editor: Articles in Gardening Magazine often spur sales of the plants they describe, particularly among people new to gardening. Accordingly, we will no longer publish articles or accept advertisements praising the beauty of rare wildflowers. Most such plants sold to gardeners have been difficult to propagate under cultivation, so plant sellers often collect them in the wild. Our new policy is part of our efforts to half this yearly plundering of our native plant populations.

Which of the following, if true, casts the most doubt on the wisdom of the magazine's new policy as a way of pursuing the intended effect ?
(A) When people new to gardening buy plants, they often fail to take adequate care of the plants that they buy and become discourged from buying those varieties again.
(B) Plant sellers who sell rare wildflowers have no reasonably inexpensive alternate way to offer their wares directly to new gardens.
(C) The demand for rare wildflowers rarely exceeds the number of such plants that can be collected in the wild by plant sellers.
(D) The propagation of rare wildflowers often depends on the plant's interaction with other organisms in their environment such as plants that create suitable soil conditions or insects and birds that disperse seeds.
(E) Revenues from sales of plants collected in the wild are supporting the discovery of new low-cost techniques enabling rare wildflowers to be readily propagated in nurseries.


这题Weaken应该选啥？我咋觉得没有喃？ADE我觉得无关  BC是support的吧？  以前看个讨论帖就说如果support就应该选C   好像是荷花姐给的讨论帖，一下子找不到了...我决定B也能support不？  那Weaken这题是不是就没选项啦？！？！   如果还有个选项说其他的园艺杂志也效仿这家杂志这样做 是不是也支持啊？请赐教啊>_<

-- by 会员 爱兔兰 (2010/10/1 20:10:35)

http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_Math/thread-485171-1-1.html
小兔，这是这道逻辑题上次的讨论帖，关于为什么加强选C的。不过看最近一些战友说，好像有很多人遇到这道逻辑的时候发现选项改写过了，但我依然觉得，仍然选C，如果问加强的话；不过有一个760大牛说应该选B，不过是改写过选项的B，我觉得要到考试时候认真看了，如果B改写后的意思更加贴切，应该再仔细斟酌下。

如果是削弱的话，应该选最后一项，就是会把卖花所得利润用来保护野花那个

-- by 会员 livia2012 (2010/10/1 20:47:20)

嗯，C的逻辑support我就是看那个帖子理解的，那个帖子的NN说B也是驳斥，因为销售这些稀有野生植物的人，没有办法给这些新人提供其他选择，那别人要买的话，就只能去野外再继续采集了，就不能很好保护这些植物。  那这样说，岂不是weaken的话B也对了？！？！不会吧...看有狗主人这么理解B：卖花人没有别的inexpensive的方式向new gardeners 推销这些珍稀花草。  那个alternate way到底是卖花人推销wild flowers的方法(除了这个杂志)还是采花的途径啊？！？！

-- by 会员 爱兔兰 (2010/10/1 21:25:25)

我这个题目就是按照上面帖子里的方法排除的B，或者你再试试，如果把C取非的话，就明显削弱文章的结论了，所以C肯定是加强的。至于削弱选项的话，E是最为合适的，他比B表意更加清晰，而且指向讨论的问题中心。
如果选项改写了，就只能看新改写的选项，需要临场判断。
逻辑这东西很容易受狗主思维影响，所以不要记得太死，反而容易影响发挥。

-- by 会员 livia2012 (2010/10/1 21:35:43)

嗯...我就是担心狗主的思路影响，还是想多思考思考...就是，担心我的思考会不会钻到牛角尖了  或者...考虑不到位...  唉~ 再加强吧！

蒙小灰

Livia姐太强了！~~~偶像啊~~~崇拜啊~~~8号坐等你的好消息！！！~~~