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香港的投行如德意志银行的associate一般年薪多少?

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51#
发表于 2009-11-5 17:05:48 | 只看该作者
我收入多少早就说了,你眼睛瞎了看不见或者故意看不见而已。 你自己号称在搞什么野鸡公司,不要以为别人也和你一样。我跟着谁出来创业,你大可以搜索SC Lowy, FT, BBG都上过主页,不是什么见不得光的事情,人人都可以google。 

我从来没添过外国人屁眼,没鼓吹过投行风光,没劝过谁进来,只是提供知道的实情。倒是某些人曾经大做广告找人加入什么野鸡证券公司,笑啊
52#
发表于 2009-11-5 19:19:32 | 只看该作者
我收入多少早就说了,你眼睛瞎了看不见或者故意看不见而已。 你自己号称在搞什么野鸡公司,不要以为别人也和你一样。我跟着谁出来创业,你大可以搜索SC Lowy, FT, BBG都上过主页,不是什么见不得光的事情,人人都可以google。 

我从来没添过外国人屁眼,没鼓吹过投行风光,没劝过谁进来,只是提供知道的实情。倒是某些人曾经大做广告找人加入什么野鸡证券公司,笑啊
-- by 会员 shaoji (2009/11/5 17:05:48)



哦,你不是野鸡。在这里我只回敬你,我对你的公司没意见。这点我还是比你笨的,你攻击的是整个公司,我只针对个人,哈哈!

还有,说一下你公司投资规模,在哪里注册,别以为外国公司才是公司,美国注册一家资产管理公司只用10万美金,而全世界只有中国内地需要有注册资本,在中国内地注册投资管理公司比美国门槛要高,需要500万元人民币。如果中国国内正规注册的私募基金是野鸡公司,那么外国公司就是野火鸡公司,跟别提什么巴拿马,开曼群岛,BVI那些岛国,那些是野鸟公司。



另外,我十分不解你们为什么只做债券,而不做股票。事实上有些公司在美国股市的成交量很轻松就能达到2000万,还不带期权。你们做这个不更好,干嘛要去做低收益债券? 香港好像债券期货更少

当然,你未必知道这一点,因为你MBA没白念,很了解国内外的公司法。

另外,我的本意也不是想来吵架的,多认识个中国人,多把一个人拉下水,做这个行业更好。

我可以提供给你一个信息,我估计你也不会要:香港某大型银行提供私募信托基金托管业务,一年收费也只有5万美元。你的年薪+房补一共1M,你可以开两个信托基金了。我简直不明白为什么这么多年轻学生想去给外国人打工,然后比什么薪水,bonus,房补,失业保险等等。在我看来南辕北辙。

另外,这种新闻其实是广告,花钱就能登的。并不是FT登上了,就受英国和香港金融监管局监管


A team of distressed debt traders who resigned from Deutsche Bank earlier this year have set up their own boutique investment bank in Hong Kong.

SC Lowy, which opened today, will deal exclusively in distressed and illiquid investments across Asia, an asset class that has become increasingly fashionable among banks and hedge funds since the financial crisis struck.

“With the volatility and level of distress that came back in the market over the last 18 months we decided it was the time for us to be entrepreneurs and build our own business,” said Michel Lowy, chief executive, who founded the company alongside Soo Cheon Lee.

Mr Lee estimated that the total size of the distressed market in Asia-Pacific, excluding Japan, was as high as $100bn.

Mr Lowy and Mr Lee previously led Deutsche Bank's Asian distressed products group and cut their teeth at Cargill, trading distressed and illiquid investments in the aftermath of the 1997 Asian financial crisis.

Mr Lowy caused a stir when he resigned from Deutsche Bank in March, having founded its Asian distressed debt operation in 1999. Under his leadership the group was regarded as the region's leading force in distressed debt trading and investing.

While the opaque nature of trading in the loans and bonds of troubled companies makes industry data hard to come by, market participants say that investment banks and hedge funds have been aggressively moving into the Asian market in recent months.

Bonds are termed distressed when they yield at least 10 percentage points more than similar-maturity government notes. Near-distressed or stressed bonds have yields of between 7 and 10 percentage points.

Half of the new bank's 14 employees followed Mr Lowy from Deutsche Bank, including Chetan Baxi, chief operating officer, and Robert Lepsoe, head of origination and special situations. Nine of the employees are also shareholders.

Mr Lowy declined to say how much they had invested.
53#
发表于 2009-11-5 20:03:25 | 只看该作者
低估你了,没想到你还会用google,可惜英文太差,distressed debt就是低收益债券?还“香港债券期货好像更少“,笑话,更本不是一类东西,除了期货你就不知道点别的什么了吗?还“十分不解为什么不做股票“,你什么都不懂,当然不解。解释多了,简直是在教你。

出钱就可以做广告,你倒是出给我看看。如果不是被邀请,我们更本不想上报纸(你肯定又要鸡冻得说见不得光之类的,再教你一下吧,不是所有类型的基金都是需要曝光的)
54#
发表于 2009-11-5 22:32:23 | 只看该作者
唉,混CD不久,只知道hedge做期货的,还找人HK开经纪行~美国开对冲基金~
06年的时候hedge好像也在准备G呀(不好意思,我搜索了)
但是我怎么觉得hedge一点儿也不nice,不像有上面成功经历的人
55#
发表于 2009-11-5 22:40:21 | 只看该作者
我不厚道的补充一个,刚搜hedge帖子的时候看到他07年初时候说defeat了,说“模考成绩低(指gmat),因为数学比较难”,我顿时喷了一桌子水~~~唉,装啥都莫装B~~不好意思我骂人了



诸如我类新筒子要擦亮眼睛
56#
发表于 2009-11-6 01:30:04 | 只看该作者
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携隐啊携隐,我 没有讽刺你的意思。

CD论坛上给不少MBA招生做广告,自然希望越多人读这个就越好。但是我们必须要给更多CDer真正正确的信息,而且他们多数是学生,少不经事,还有不少是只工作过2,3年涉世未深的年轻人。如果我们为了招生就给他们描述一个美丽的肥皂泡,诱使别人上当,那么岂不是很违背道德修养呢?

上了当的,等他们毕业,有些为了面子不让别人笑话,有些为了保持虚荣心,有些为了自己更好就业就鼓吹粉饰自己成为成功人士,这更误导了多少年轻人。人的生命只有一次,能经得起误导的能有几次?

学生们还没有走入社会,不了解社会海阔天空天高任鸟飞,认为出国就是牛,读名校就是牛,有钱就是牛,去投行穿个黑西装(也不管西装兜里有没有钱,信用卡,和支票)在装修华丽的写字楼工作就是牛,我们应该正确地引导,而不是将其引导到出国考试培训和砸钱读一个没用的MBA
携隐MM同意否?
-- by 会员 hedge (2009/11/5 10:09:05)



道理我同意,不过这个“真正正确的信息”,还是留给真正的业内人士去提供比较靠谱。
57#
发表于 2009-11-6 01:34:51 | 只看该作者
低估你了,没想到你还会用google,可惜英文太差,distressed debt就是低收益债券?还“香港债券期货好像更少“,笑话,更本不是一类东西,除了期货你就不知道点别的什么了吗?还“十分不解为什么不做股票“,你什么都不懂,当然不解。解释多了,简直是在教你。

出钱就可以做广告,你倒是出给我看看。如果不是被邀请,我们更本不想上报纸(你肯定又要鸡冻得说见不得光之类的,再教你一下吧,不是所有类型的基金都是需要曝光的)
-- by 会员 shaoji (2009/11/5 20:03:25)



哦,原来大师把distressed debt翻译成低收益债券?我本来还纳闷呢,什么时候窜出来这么个产品

跟着这样的老板,真好啊。这类产品可是投资的好时机了。我们fund去年底的时候也看了些busted CB,不过犹豫再三还是没有动手。当时可真便宜啊
58#
发表于 2009-11-6 01:36:45 | 只看该作者
Mr. Hedge is indeed the more than the 'Long Hair' of the Forum.

I have hear several discussions about banning his ID, but he were still keep alive possiby for some special reasons.

For bond and interest rate trading, you can indeed make serious money (for the bank) because of very huge leverage, provided you have the credit line. For conservative Banks, they will most likely only dealing with such counterparties who is well established and well-known in the trade.  

10% spread over treasury sound seriously risky to me. If there is second wave after they launch their funds...

On the other hand, we could not rule out there is possibility that there are some unsophisticated small 'private funds' in China which is run by 'relatives of ...etcs' whos size is in excess of 100m RMB from the local counties..., though they are becoming rare...

59#
发表于 2009-11-6 09:44:54 | 只看该作者
[quote]
携隐啊携隐,我 没有讽刺你的意思。

CD论坛上给不少MBA招生做广告,自然希望越多人读这个就越好。但是我们必须要给更多CDer真正正确的信息,而且他们多数是学生,少不经事,还有不少是只工作过2,3年涉世未深的年轻人。如果我们为了招生就给他们描述一个美丽的肥皂泡,诱使别人上当,那么岂不是很违背道德修养呢?

上了当的,等他们毕业,有些为了面子不让别人笑话,有些为了保持虚荣心,有些为了自己更好就业就鼓吹粉饰自己成为成功人士,这更误导了多少年轻人。人的生命只有一次,能经得起误导的能有几次?

学生们还没有走入社会,不了解社会海阔天空天高任鸟飞,认为出国就是牛,读名校就是牛,有钱就是牛,去投行穿个黑西装(也不管西装兜里有没有钱,信用卡,和支票)在装修华丽的写字楼工作就是牛,我们应该正确地引导,而不是将其引导到出国考试培训和砸钱读一个没用的MBA
携隐MM同意否?
-- by 会员 hedge (2009/11/5 10:09:05)



道理我同意,不过这个“真正正确的信息”,还是留给真正的业内人士去提供比较靠谱。
-- by 会员 携隐 (2009/11/6 1:30:04)



shaoji声称你进了DB,所以你也是专业人士,你的收入也是这个行业的参考了
60#
发表于 2009-11-6 09:48:04 | 只看该作者
[quote]
Mr. Hedge is indeed the more than the 'Long Hair' of the Forum.

I have hear several discussions about banning his ID, but he were still keep alive possiby for some special reasons.

For bond and interest rate trading, you can indeed make serious money (for the bank) because of very huge leverage, provided you have the credit line. For conservative Banks, they will most likely only dealing with such counterparties who is well established and well-known in the trade.  

10% spread over treasury sound seriously risky to me. If there is second wave after they launch their funds...

On the other hand, we could not rule out there is possibility that there are some unsophisticated small 'private funds' in China which is run by 'relatives of ...etcs' whos size is in excess of 100m RMB from the local counties..., though they are becoming rare...
actually, they are not running a bank

如果有国外的杠杆,做债券我们也很轻松能做到20个亿。你比较专业,你懂数字
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