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美国MBA就业情况如何

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楼主
发表于 2004-2-13 08:54:00 | 只看该作者

美国MBA就业情况如何

请教各位,目前亚洲学生MBA毕业后在美国就业前景如何,好像最近两年外国人在美找工作不太容易。有没有知道比较准确信息的大虾?
沙发
发表于 2004-2-13 09:13:00 | 只看该作者
老美自己找工作都有困难,何况老外呢
板凳
发表于 2004-2-13 09:18:00 | 只看该作者

Internships: Never More Important
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Company internships have long been an important part of the B-school experience, offering students a chance to explore an industry they hope to move into. Starting in 2000, however, landing the right internship became an almost life-or-death matter for MBA students, as internships increasingly replaced on-campus recruiting as their best shot at a job.

Internships, moreover, show no sign of losing any of their new importance as the economy improves. The classes of 2004 and 2005 can look forward to 25% to 35% more internship offers this year than during the economic slump, and the number of full-time jobs offered to interns is expected to rise by roughly the same amount. For one, JP Morgan Chase & Co. projects an increase of 25% both for internships and full-time hires for the classes of 2004 and 2005, according to Alison Corazzini, head of investment-banking recruiting. With employers historically end up converting 50% to 65% of internships into full-time positions, that should mean a lot of new jobs.

MULLING THE OPTIONS.
     Many companies are doing away with second-round hiring altogether, preferring instead to find all their new hires in their pool of interns, says John Flato, career services director at Georgetown University and a former corporate recruiter for Ernst & Young, Cap Gemini, and Honeywell.

At some schools, the trend is already quite pronounced. Last year at Duke University's Fuqua School of Business, only 31% of the 239-member graduating class had received offers from their summer internship program by the time they graduated. This year 41% has already received an offer, even though graduation is still months away. At Carnegie Mellon University, the graduating MBA class had received 117 offers as of mid-January, 2004 -- 40% more than at the same point last year, says Ken Keeley, executive director of the Career Opportunities Center.

The improving economy, meanwhile, has boosted students' confidence. Many more than in the recent past are taking their time deciding on whether to accept their offers. At Fuqua, 55 students who have job offers -- about half stemming from internships -- have yet to decide whether or not to take those jobs. "People accepted jobs last year because they didn't have an alternative," says Jean Eisel, Fuqua's Director of MBA Career Management. Adds Carnegie Mellon's Keeley: "There's not that sense of panic you saw two years ago and last year."

The relief may be premature, notes Hanigan. On-campus job recruiting at this point in the hiring cycle remains a bit of a wild card. Some companies do it to promote their brand to students and maintain relationships with schools' career offices as much as to actually hire. Yet at Columbia University, where students have natural geographical entree to the investment and retail-banking communities, a number of blue-chip banking firms started recruiting in mid-January, rather than the traditional February or March, to fill full-time positions.

SHRINKING BONUSES.
     Even so, many students are taking a speculative approach to the job search. A major reason is that, with just-in-time and as-needed hiring rampant, many students last year found better jobs in April, May, and June -- which used to be considered fatally late in the hiring season, says Regina Resnick, assistant dean and director of MBA Career Services at Columbia.

Sentiment about which industries are the most desirable is shifting, too. Investment banking and consulting no longer appear as exotic as they did in the boom years, when upwards of 80% of newly minted MBAs would head off to jobs in those specialties. Today, fewer than 60% of students will enter or return to such positions. The percentage drop is partly because fewer consulting and investment banking positions are available, but it's also because those jobs still require brutal work hours and the seven-figure bonuses that made them so lucrative are no longer a given.

No one hot job category has replaced I-banking and consulting, although some sectors are gaining in popularity. Pharmaceutical companies, which avoided the corporate scandals that enmeshed many financial companies, are becoming more attractive, as are luxury-goods companies and manufacturers. The herd mentality, Hanigan says, is gone. "We see twice as many attendees at our on-campus briefings at our select schools [Carnegie Mellon, Vanderbilt University's Owen School of Business, Pennsylvania State and the University of Maryland's Smith School of Business] and résumé drops from MBAs requesting interviews now," says Steve Howarth, who as vice-president and general auditor of Black & Decker (
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OPENED DOOR.     The story, writ larger, is similar at General Motors (javascript : target=" _blank?>GM ), whose presence has remained steady over the past three years at the 30 business schools at which it recruits, although its full-time recruiting is at a "slightly lower" level now than it has been over the past few years, says Mark Roberts, GM's director of talent acquisition. While the number of internships GM offers remains roughly unchanged from a few years ago, he says, they have gained importance. "Students shouldn't look at the internship as an opportunity for experience," says Roberts. "They should view it as an opportunity to gain employment."

For now, rampant on-campus recruiting and multiple job offers for every grad are things of the past. If those phenomena ever make a comeback, it won't be until at least 2007 or 2008, says B-school industry expert Hanigan. And that can mean only one thing for the current crop of MBA students: When it comes to finding an internship, you've really got to get it right.


By
Kate Hazelwood
Edited by Thane Peterson








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地板
 楼主| 发表于 2004-2-13 09:23:00 | 只看该作者
我关心和担心的问题是,如果毕业后无法在美国找到好工作,只有回国,国内的工资收入对于一个美国的MBA,恐怕会让你失望的。这是一个很现实的问题,除非你非常优秀,否则美国的大公司是不太会轻易录取一个黄种人的,这问题在目前经济形势不明朗的情况下尤其令人担忧。
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发表于 2004-2-13 10:10:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用cheeyong在2004-2-13 9:23:00的发言:
我关心和担心的问题是,如果毕业后无法在美国找到好工作,只有回国,国内的工资收入对于一个美国的MBA,恐怕会让你失望的。这是一个很现实的问题,除非你非常优秀,否则美国的大公司是不太会轻易录取一个黄种人的,这问题在目前经济形势不明朗的情况下尤其令人担忧。

除非你能证明你有很强的专业技能(如技术,金融证券等),一般的MBA学生还是挺难在美国找到工作的,原因很简单,你的文化背景相差太大,无法胜任管理多文化背景下的员工。这是我去美国出差时,当地同事告诉我的。事实上也是这样啊,几乎所有的中国人在公司里干的都是技术活,真正做上管理职位的少之有少。我个人认为,MBA只是通往个人职业生涯成功的途径之一,而实现个人成功是个长期过程。所以MBA是个长期投资。我觉得,存在“暴发户”心里去读MBA的话,毕业后回很失望。一家之言,欢迎讨论。
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发表于 2004-2-13 10:13:00 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2004-2-13 10:33:00 | 只看该作者
那我们出去为了什么呢,想找一份比较满意的工作都很难,怎么跟我们的职业设计相吻合,这个长期计划何时才有希望,做一个中国学生真不容易啊

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 楼主| 发表于 2004-2-13 11:22:00 | 只看该作者
看看我的另一篇文章《有关MBA求学动机的讨论》,做事情前先想想收益和风险的关系,想清楚了再做
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发表于 2004-2-13 13:44:00 | 只看该作者
Hope John Kerry beat G.W. Bush.    
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发表于 2004-2-13 15:11:00 | 只看该作者
其实进top school还是有机会拿到不错的offer 我没有大规模的数据 只能用我身边的一些朋友举例



比如我在kellogg, wharton, tuck 等学校的已经毕业的朋友 虽然他们找工作的过程很艰难 但结果都不错: 有的进了top 3 MC, 有的进入industry (Johnson&Johnson, 还有一些医药公司).    offer是在美国做几年 然后回中国的做中级管理人员.    个人觉得这种工作的前途都比较光明.     还有其他的大型mnc(如nokia和samsang)也招收top school's MBAs, 不过是直接回中国工作,不清楚offer 怎样。


我还有大学同学在一个中部的second tier 他告诉我找工作比较难 但他已经有2个大陆同学拿到offer, 都是回中国,但salary不错 年薪有RMB 400,000 - 500,000.也相当于USD 60k了.好像录取的公司是GE和一家汽车公司 分别是做finance 和marketing. 不过那两个人在出来之前已经有很多在mnc的经验.






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