[求助]对于非金融专业领域想踏进这个行业什么证适合?

hanl

以下是引用cakehouse在2008-7-22 9:35:00的发言：

你真是太不了解投行有多么看重背景，所有的背景，名校，专业及家庭背景。。自己试试投投简历就了解了。

背景这种东西不是靠积累的么?要是总觉的没可能的话,那大可放弃努力,甘愿保持现状就好.

我认为:你所说的这些只不过是对这个行业一个很入门的印象而已,连我都会说.牛校+成绩+IB实习+数学+人脉+家底

说别人太不了解的时候,你可以先告诉大家你高于别人的了解,这样的驳论才有力不是么?

cakehouse

that's really funny.

我在美国金融投行圈工作的时间比你接受高等教育的时间要长得多。给你些实际提醒，你怎么想随意。

hanl

我们就事论事就好了,未来这种东西谁也说不定,没必要拿你现在的资历和我比.毕竟即使进了投行离事业成功,人生成功还是有很大的距离.我不希望自己的一个咨询的帖子变成了两个人的论战甚至对骂的话,对我没有意义.

所以,假如你能继续给予客观的见解,当然非常欢迎.忠言逆耳的道理我在国内还是学的明白的.

sinopolish

Cakehouse is right that studying for cfa is not sufficient to get you into the industry. But apart from family background, the other factors can be improved,e.g.Top b-school and solid industry knowledge (any industry preferabbly relevant with finance). You can get both in a few years provided you work hard enough.   

There are people in IB with non-finance undergraduate degree indeed includ.myself. A clcassmate at bschool got structuring job used to study biology and work in IT dept at IB. Everybody has some unique selling points and keep your mind open.  

cakehouse

如果不读topmba直接从生物专业想转到投行领域可能性基本为零。

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hanl

Having so many useful thoughts here, no matter positive or negative, it is really useful for me. Thanks, sinopolish. Thanks, cakehouse. Hope to have further info from you.

As u know, I has a weak backgouding in finance, so I hope the CFA give me a systematic teaching process, only to prove that I know finance field. combined with cracking the major obstacls I will face in getting into a intern. Is my analysis about these above practical or not? true or false.....

Here are another some piece suggestion from a senior in UBS IB with the same major as I do, wish this can help others with the same backgrouding and predicament as I do.

Hey, nice to hear from you. I am sorry that I was actually taking training classes the whole day, I am in London with other guys from UBS worldwide. Sorry that I think I can not speak to you for long during weekdays, coz the training is intensive, from 8:30AM to 5:30PM. However, I think we can talk during the weekends, my cell phone is xxxxxxxxxxxxx. 
 Based on what you wrote about your background, I think the fastest path for you to enter I-banking is to go for work for now. Spending a couple of years doing graduate school in Sun Yat-Sen University is a waste of time, I think it will be so much more valuable for you to go for the swiss firm, working experience is more important than degrees. Working for like 2 -3 years, apply for MBA and go back to business school, then get ready for investment banking. I am not sure if you are aware the market condition right now, it is not a good time to enter this industry at the moment. 
 Having said that, a MFE can help you get into this field faster, like what I did.....
 Anyway, I think you have a good shape right now, do not worry too much, apply for MFE first, if can not get it, then go for work, I guess this is my suggestion.

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sinopolish

MFE=Master in Financial Engineering? Why bother doing such a quant degree given client facing is your preference?? Forget about the crazy idea. Keep your head down and go for a MBA a couple of years later. Banking job market is bad. Like any investment, timing matters a lot to bet on your own human capital.  

hanl

以下是引用sinopolish在2008-7-24 2:06:00的发言：

MFE=Master in Financial Engineering? Why bother doing such a quant degree given client facing is your preference?? Forget about the crazy idea. Keep your head down and go for a MBA a couple of years later. Banking job market is bad. Like any investment, timing matters a lot to bet on your own human capital.  

In order to step into this field, working experience in finance is really important I think. So, for now, I am afraid that I have not enough knowledge to get a relative outstanding finance related job, thus top MBA become difficult.

I suppose that I need to find a compromise between field and company, If I find a good company job, they may be not related so much to finance; In contrast, if I find a job related to finance, the company maybe not good enough than the former company I mentioned in the first case.

So, which should prefer, which should be pay more attention. Job or Company?

lshlcc

如果未来 想走金融领域，  我建议曲线救国， 找份四大的工作， 做两三年 转到金融领域。 丰富的财务经验对金融还是很有用的

不然小本 基本都是去商业银行 拉存款

minmindd

 if you are really interested in pharma or biotech. You could apply for equity research positions, working on biotech/pharma stock analysis and pricing modeling.   Half people on Wall Street are doing "research" for different industries.    CFA is really valuable for people focused on asset/portfolio management

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