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以下是引用wxh7314在2003-12-20 21:48:00的发言：
Somebody must have played better than me. But it is still possible that somebody is more to the taste of the admission committee.

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cthd007

wxh7314 bro, I'm so glad to be one of your friend, and appreciate your level of moral stature and perspicuity.  

As i mentioned in my last email, I have no intention to "insult" you in any way. the "conclusion" I made was just based on the posts, though i read your threads throughly and carefully before, but, unfortunately, not your mind.

make no mistake, I do respect not only your inspiration and passion, but also any other candidates' on CD. Simply put,  i'm one of Wharton's enthusiast too. It might be true, Wharton is not the best B-school, but it's the finest one in the world.

As to the game, personally, i think we have to follow the rule of Wharton's law, but rather than a rule of thumb. after all, we, are anxious to play the game, not Wharton. without doubt, Wharton is the only king maker for the rule of the game!

What you failed for now, is just your imagination of your future work life that doesn't match the adcom's belief, nothing else. A MBA is just one of bridges that woud bind your past to the future you believe, what else?

Though, one door @Wharton was closed, another door is still open if you want to knock, knock. Wharton is one of few schools allows, even encourages, its prospective students to apply for both full time MBA and EMBA program within the same academic year if applicable. The deadline of the MBA for executives @ Wharton is on Feb1, 2004 (one round, no rolling process). If you're interested in, the things you need to do is to register another account, write three more essays, schedule a campus' interview, and you're in and read to play a new game again.

Personally, i encourage you to apply because the way you'll not only keep the decent job you love, but also build the netwowrk of business contact you dream. Again, lose here, win there.

All in all, good luck to your future endeavors.

[此贴子已经被作者于2003-12-21 4:39:56编辑过]

wxh7314

cthd007:
That's very nice of you to give me good advice. I like the Wharton courses and knowledge but I don't like the adcom. I have some aching in some part fo my heart. Maybe it is the feeling of hurt.

I have the courage to accept the unfair game and give congratulations to those admitted candidates at the same time. But I got some complex with the adcom. I don't want to see them again or deal with them. I need a rest. Life is so beautiful and I can't miss the bright sunshine in Shenzhen. Winners take all. The game is over.

I plan to know my weakness from the feedback session before I decide to reapply or apply for Wharton EMBA.

My email is wxh@sihc.com.cn. You can send message to me if you like.

Yours earnestly
Wu Xinghua

cthd007

wxh7314 bro, take a break if you feel getting hurt, not a panic.

Some researches for EMBA as your reference, in case you need it.

1. The adcoms in charge of EMBA are different from those who in charge of MBA.

2. EMBA has two capums, namely, Philadelphia and San Francisco. I bet you wanna be in San Francisco for short flight.

3. A MBA is much compete than an EMBA does, not only in admission, but also in the periods of study and job search. It's safe to say that you probably only comete with youself or a few of Asian candidates if you want to apply for EMBA.

4. The only difficulty is to convince your boss to sponsor it


Dream what you want to dream,

go where you what to go,

because you have only one life and one chance to do all the things you want to do.

cthd007

New king - Howard Kaufold, if you're interested in west coast EMBA.


A Conversation with Howard Kaufold, Director of the Wharton MBA Program for Executives
What kinds of things should you be looking at when deciding whether to apply to a particular EMBA program?

I'd advise you to look at several factors. First, what is the equivalence of the program to a full-time MBA? How does the curriculum compare? Do you want a very rigorous program or one that is less demanding?
Second, how selective is the school? How many people are applying to the program? Of those who apply, how many are admitted? Does the school require all applicants to take the GMAT? Many executive MBA programs waive that requirement; at Wharton, we hold our EMBA and full-time applicants to the same high standards.
Third, what about the program's schedule and overall learning environment? How well does it fit with your career needs at this time and your personal learning style?
Also, how big is the alumni network and what do the alumni do? That's a gauge of the opportunities that your MBA will open for you and a measure of the value of the degree in the marketplace.
How do you get a sense of the quality of an EMBA class?

The selectivity of the school is one factor in determining the skills, abilities, and experience of the peer group you'll work with throughout your studies. Also, at Wharton we find that diversity is key to dynamic class discussion. Make sure that there are a lot of viewpoints represented. What industries are the students coming from? What geographical areas are they coming from?
The best way to get a sense of the school is to visit. You will be spending a great deal of time with your classmates and professors, and the experience varies widely from program to program. Meet students, alumni, professors, and administrators. Sit in on a class if possible.
What about the class schedule?

Ask yourself whether the program fits your lifestyle and your schedule. Is it offered one day per week, every other weekend, during week-long sessions, or a combination? What kind of support structures are available during residency periods? What kind of group study and individual work are required and supported between class sessions? Are you looking for a local degree, or are you willing to travel farther for a program with a wide geographic reach, broad industry scope, and/or international reputation?
Be sure you consider your learning style as well. Some students find that if classes are too concentrated, it's difficult for them to absorb the coursework or that they lose momentum if the gaps between sessions are very long. At Wharton, we've found that Friday and Saturday classes work best since it is more feasible for students to take the time out to attend. There's less disruption and they can they see the impact of learning on their ongoing work, creating a better value for the student and employer.
What differentiates the curriculum of various EMBA programs?

Many are "lockstep" programs, in which all students take the same classes, at the same time, throughout the duration of the program. That's fine when the entire class has exactly the same interests, but otherwise be sure that the electives you need are offered and that courses can be tailored to your career advancement goals. At Wharton, 45 percent of the classes are electives, and each class has the opportunity during the first year to select the electives offered to them in the second year.
If you are interested in senior management roles, make sure the program you choose focuses on helping you improve your leadership style. What kinds of leadership courses does it offer, and how effective are they?
And don't forget the basics — how many hours will be spent in class? Who teaches the courses? What is the core curriculum and how is structured?
What other qualities add value to an EMBA?

Many executive programs have differentiators, but be sure what is unique about a program is both relevant to your goals and integrated with the program's philosophy. Global residencies are very "hot" right now, but make sure that the international aspect of the program you choose is substantive and carried out in the rest of the curriculum. Ask whether the class has an opportunity to choose the location for the overseas project or residency. Team projects and experiential learning opportunities can also add value, giving students a chance to learn organizational dynamics and leadership while putting the lessons they learn into immediate play.
What about funding?

Funding is often a critical part of the decision-making process, and you will have to weigh your goals for your career, the value of the degree in the job market, and the availability of financial resources, including sponsorship and loans. Many employers are willing to sponsor students in executive MBA programs either fully or partially, and many schools offer loan programs to support students who are not fully sponsored. Check to see whether the school requires sponsorship, whether admission is contingent upon a student's receiving employer funding, and what loan opportunities are available for EMBA students. The Wharton MBA Program for Executives does not require sponsorship, and whether the student gets full or partial financial help has no effect on the admissions decision. Loans are available for qualified self-sponsored students.
Any final advice?

I would just reiterate my earlier suggestion that visiting a program is one of the best ways to determine if it is a good fit for you. Pursuing an MBA degree, whether in a full-time or executive experience format, involves a major commitment not only of money, but also of time and personal energy. When it's the right fit, it can be a life-changing experience. The time you invest up front in researching your choice is well worth the effort.

[此贴子已经被作者于2003-12-21 17:24:34编辑过]

cthd007

Entering Class Profile 2003

Class Overview (Philadelphia and San Francisco)
Total Applicants 878
Total Admitted Applicants 221
Total Enrolled 2003, 204
Grant Deferral to 2004, 9

Average Age 33
Under 30: 27%
Over 39: 11%

Average Years Work Experience 10
Average GMAT
Mid 80% GMAT Range 640-740
Students Holding Advanced Degrees 37%
Average Salary and Bonus $150,000

[此贴子已经被作者于2003-12-21 17:28:58编辑过]

wxh7314

cthd007:
Only the Wharton MBA suits my demand. I want the crediblity of a full time on-campus Wharton MBA. The EMBA sounds like a "watered" degree, not an manifestation of your strength. What's more, I am not that old to apply for EMBA.

I want to live in the U.S. for two years. I want to bring my wife with me. I don't want to commute over the Pacific Ocean still as a Chinese.

The value of the pursuit is not only the courses and the Wharton brand. I want the authenticity of Wharton MBA to help me in the next step. I want to live and work with people in New England area.

Actually, I have considered the choice of EMBA. I supposed the interviewer would ask me why I don't apply for EMBA and prepared an answer to this question. To be frank, I don't like EMBA. I don't like San Francisco either. I am confident that I fit the Wharton MBA.

Do you have any constructive advice for Wharton MBA next year? Thank you.

cthd007

in that case, you'd better to talk to danceindream or gowell. after all, they are admitted already. I'm sure they will give you much insightful advice than i do.

wxh7314

Yes! gowell:
Can you give me some advice of rising to the "in" pile of Wharton?

Thank you

gowell

please refer to my reply on the other Wharton thread. Hope it helps.