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[校友答疑] Current INSEAD students taking questions

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111#
发表于 2007-10-20 02:06:00 | 只看该作者

Regarding to the scholarships for the current 2008 July class, I heard from the dean that people from India, China, US, UK are the among the top receivers.     About 20%-25% of the class will be granted one, with a mean of 12k Euro for the year.   But there are very few full-tuition scholarships.

The dean visions that the precentage of the people awarded, as well as the amount of money granted will increase during the year.          And he acutally has done great jobs on finding more sponorships and bringing more scholarships to the INSEADers during the past few years.

Finding a loan is an uneasy job.   Try BoC and GuangDa, if your parents are still working, or if you own a house and can provide as a guaranty, maybe you can get one.  Good luck!

112#
发表于 2007-10-22 17:52:00 | 只看该作者

请问申请R2和R3,对中国学生是否有比较负面的影响?

此外,如果在申请Deadline之前ETS还是没有寄到官方的TOEFL成绩,那是否可以先Self Report,然后再等ETS的成绩报告到达?这样是否会被推迟到下一轮的申请?谢谢!

113#
发表于 2007-10-24 05:25:00 | 只看该作者

I think R2 & R3 has no big difference in terms of headcounts for Chinese admits.   Avoid R4.    Though I know there are people get admitted for the incoming Jan. Class.  Even if you are lucky to get a position, you might not be able to select the campus you'd like to begin with.

Regarding to the Toefl, I'm not quite sure here.  It's always good to meet the deadlines for such kind of not so critical stuffs, right?   If it's unavoidable, explain that to the Adcom and self-report.   Per my experience, Adcom might let you stay in line (I had a technical problem submitting my essays 1 hour to the deadline.  I wrote to technical support, and they fixed the problem 3 days later, and they still counted me in that round).      But chances are: if you were in a competitive pool that round, it might pose yourself in a relatively poor situation. 

Good luck!

114#
发表于 2007-10-24 14:54:00 | 只看该作者

RE

以下是引用stringscn在2007-10-24 5:25:00的发言:

I think R2 & R3 has no big difference in terms of headcounts for Chinese admits.   Avoid R4.    Though I know there are people get admitted for the incoming Jan. Class.  Even if you are lucky to get a position, you might not be able to select the campus you'd like to begin with.

Regarding to the Toefl, I'm not quite sure here.  It's always good to meet the deadlines for such kind of not so critical stuffs, right?   If it's unavoidable, explain that to the Adcom and self-report.   Per my experience, Adcom might let you stay in line (I had a technical problem submitting my essays 1 hour to the deadline.  I wrote to technical support, and they fixed the problem 3 days later, and they still counted me in that round).      But chances are: if you were in a competitive pool that round, it might pose yourself in a relatively poor situation. 

Good luck!

 Thanks a lot

115#
发表于 2007-10-24 19:00:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用stringscn在2007-10-24 5:25:00的发言:

I think R2 & R3 has no big difference in terms of headcounts for Chinese admits.   Avoid R4.    Though I know there are people get admitted for the incoming Jan. Class.  Even if you are lucky to get a position, you might not be able to select the campus you'd like to begin with.

Regarding to the Toefl, I'm not quite sure here.  It's always good to meet the deadlines for such kind of not so critical stuffs, right?   If it's unavoidable, explain that to the Adcom and self-report.   Per my experience, Adcom might let you stay in line (I had a technical problem submitting my essays 1 hour to the deadline.  I wrote to technical support, and they fixed the problem 3 days later, and they still counted me in that round).      But chances are: if you were in a competitive pool that round, it might pose yourself in a relatively poor situation. 

Good luck!

你的Kimi倒是夺冠了,你的考试呢?   
116#
 楼主| 发表于 2007-10-25 00:40:00 | 只看该作者

We finished the final exams for P1 today....5 exams for 2.5 days. Everybody was very stressed but it's time to relax now. Stringcn and I are going to Barcelona tomorrow for some fun, hoho!

117#
发表于 2007-10-25 05:53:00 | 只看该作者

Ha-ha, again, KIMI is not mine...  but I'm really happy for him, all against odds!   I went to Belgium this Sept and he also won that race, it has been a great year both for me and for him!

The exams are... tough!    You know that I'm a deadline person so I spent long hours the previous week to keep myself in good shape.   INSEAD uses z-score +2.5 to make your final GPA, a good measure to position your performance among your peers.

What should I say, I even couldn't finish all the topics in accounting, though I reconciled a hyper cash flow statement in the process -- but everyone said it's hard, so I might not be in a too bad situation.    We all did pretty good in statistics, so a minor mistakes might be fatal to your final score.

Barcelona tomorrow and I should go back to have a sound sleep now!

Have fun there!


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118#
发表于 2007-10-25 22:38:00 | 只看该作者

I got drunk last night: half bottle champagne + half bottle Red (shiraz) + 1 bottle beer + 1 liang chinese white............all night clubbing

so i got up at 3pm today, felt not toooo bad

119#
发表于 2007-10-28 16:31:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用3Flady在2007-10-10 23:05:00的发言:

nnm, thx for providing the info of partnership with design centre. I do know there is scholarship from LV, but from 2006 job replacement, there is no graducate go to LVMH. This is where my concern starts. I really want to know whether is there some specific person anyone know that actually goes to LVMH after INSEAD MBA? I think the French language must be a quite big barrier for Chinese people!

To those who have their hearts set on entering the luxury industry, here's my perspective as a current P5 INSEAD student who's also looking at switching to this industry:

Until recently, the only luxury recruiter at INSEAD has been LVMH (and it's group members such as DFS and Moet Hennesy).  With my intake, Coach is now the 2nd luxury recruiter on campus.  Whether they will come back for the next promotion or not, I do not know.

In terms whether French would be a language barrier for Chinese entering this industry, seriously doubt so.  If you know French, you can smooch with the French better and they'll probably like you more.  But go take a look at any LVMH office in Asia Pac, and most employees are Chinese (including management), and I seriously doubt most of them speak French fluently.  I know a couple of friends in Shanghai who works for LVMH but don't speak French.  So I think even the French knows now that to make French language a prerequisite for hiring is pretty useless these days, especially when you're going to be located in Asia.

Were there ever any Chinese INSEAD students who got an offer from LVMH upon graduation, YES, at least I know of one (and he doesn't speak French).  He didn't take it because even though with a European MBA, LVMH still required him to start as a store manager - for 2 YEARS in China.  (Time as store manager may be shorter in other countries, ie, 3-6 months in U.S.)  My hypothesis is people who received offers from LVMH may choose not to join because of the ridiculously long store manager term. 

inseadsh is correct on how LVMH interviews candidates.  They pre-select you from the CV book based on your background and they provide you with an exploratory interview to see if you fit their profile. What type of people do they like? People with previous industry (luxury retail) related backgrounds, of course, but also people with experience from top FMCGs (for some reason, from what I've seen, they like P&G and L'Oreal people a lot), or those with a strong design background (at least this is what I can judge from the current promotion's pre-selected few). And be prepared, as the process could be streteched so long, it's painful (and that's just very French)!

To 3Flady in particular:

Your FMCG background should help in being pre-selected, but they may view 2 years as too short (that's just my opinion).  Although having been a part time model could demonstrate you have fashion sense, I'm not certain if that would help in being pre-selected since I'm not even sure whether my classmate - the Ford agency model from New York, was even selected (she could be, I need to check with her).  If she has been pre-selected, then I tell ya, she did a lot of networking.  She contacted INSEAD alums in LVMH New York before she came to school, so the bottomline is, networking in this industry is paramount!  This is a funny industry, it's nothing like consulting or regular industry.  It's an industry where you don't even need a top degree and you can be senior management.  You need to fit their profile, and you need to know the right people.  The right people don't need to be senior management, could just be someone who can place your resume on HR's desk and has enough pull to ask them to interview you (as a favor).  The rest is up to you.  Once you have your foot in the door, you're in for life.  This is especially true for the Asia Pac market right now.  My friend was an I-Banker from New York and he managed to switch to LVMH in Shanghai (without a MBA).  He had to start as a store manager as well, but he got to the office upstairs in less than a year.  It's all about how hard you push, and your relationship building skills within the company/industry.

As for which path is better for you, CEIBS, INSEAD or other French school focused on the luxury industry, well, if you don't mind starting as a store manager, then all of them are pretty much the same.  You could probably become a store manager even without a MBA if you know the right people.  I agree that the French luxury schools will give you very in-depth knowledge of the industry, but if your dream is to have your own business, then maybe you should consider coming to INSEAD for some entrepreneurship classes.  The knowledge and knowhow you can learn from these classes would better prepare you for building your own business. 

120#
发表于 2007-10-28 18:23:00 | 只看该作者

Backinshanghai, very insightful post about luxury industry!

I suggest you to apply for another part-time position: author for Vault guide - luxury inustry.

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