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二流美国法学院JD毕业就业前景

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发表于 2007-3-26 05:00:00 | 只看该作者
你的二流是指什么啊, 是TOP100,还是 TOP 200
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-3-26 05:05:00 | 只看该作者

如我前面贴子所说,我的定义是50-100 之间的是二流吧,100 之后的是tier3 or tier 4. 还请多指点,:-)

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发表于 2007-3-26 07:52:00 | 只看该作者
看第一年SALARY, 基本TOP 20 后就属于二流了. 

国际学生想进大所的, TOP20 后还是别读了.    要么, 回中国开律师事务所, 但是中国法本是必须的.    美国律师在中国是无法执业的.

估计中国的法律界会慢慢好起来! 
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发表于 2007-3-26 08:31:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用snowheat在2007-3-26 7:52:00的发言:
看第一年SALARY, 基本TOP 20 后就属于二流了. 

国际学生想进大所的, TOP20 后还是别读了.    要么, 回中国开律师事务所, 但是中国法本是必须的.    美国律师在中国是无法执业的.

估计中国的法律界会慢慢好起来! 

要是按第一年薪水的话,T20里面的UMN和WUSTL也不怎么样。倒是后面的Fordham, BC/BU还不错,可能是location的缘故

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发表于 2007-3-26 08:32:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用neohawk在2007-3-26 8:31:00的发言:

要是按第一年薪水的话,T20里面的UMN和WUSTL也不怎么样。倒是后面的Fordham, BC/BU还不错,可能是location的缘故

u got it

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发表于 2007-3-26 09:12:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用秋天的虫子在2007-3-26 8:32:00的发言:

u got it

看到LSD上那个2008排名了吗? 不知道是真是假

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发表于 2007-3-26 23:37:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用neohawk在2007-3-26 2:05:00的发言:

咱们外国人选择不多吧,身份加上这么多贷款要还,除了biglaw不知道还有什么别的生存办法。我要求不高,能顺利把贷款还了然后生活比我做postdoc好就行。但就这我觉得都挺难的,T14外的学校能有三分之一去biglaw就相当不错了,哪里能保证就一定能进前三分之一呀然后再加上语言劣势就更加难上加难了,sigh

Sorry, I cannot type Chinese in this darn computer.

1) I heard school would help you on loan if you decide to do public interest after law school. You can delay repaying loan for ten years if you are making less than 65K. After ten years, I guess you are off the hook.

2) School like BU ranking around 22, the median salary would be at least 80K-120K.  And a lot of lawyer made good money from Tier3 or even Tier 4 school. And you can always transfer after first year law school if you are not completely satisfied with your school or your ego. I heard several cases of successful transfer after first year. And those are the cases of my friends' friend.  I think it happens more than we know.

3) Pick up a law school where you are going to practice law unless you plan to transfer afterwards. The network you build up in the school matters a lot in job hunting. And usually local schools have advantages over other ones with even higher rank. BTW, I think California is great for practicing IP.

4) Even you don't have a LLB in China, you can for sure take the bar exam in China. And I believe with effort, you can pass it. Thousands of people did that. And thousands of people are still doing it. Don't panic. Don't make a big fuss. You are already a lot better than most of people, Chinese or American, to be able to get into USC. (Congratulations! ) Besides, you have quite unique background. You will be more than fine.

5) I don't agree with you on the language issue. Language will get better with constant usage. For us, with the fluency of both Chinese and English in spoken and writing, it is rather advangtageous than disadvantageous in an era of mankind globalization, in an era with a strong China government.

6) Regarding the patent bar, H1 visa holders can take it but not F1 visa holders. If you are planning to do IP, take it before school start otherwise you will not be able to take it with F1 visa. But you can always do it after law school graduation and with a job with H1 visa.

7) I don't think it is good idea to jump into decision of law school just because of poor job market. Just my opinion. Law school is hard and practicing law will be even harder. On the top of it, we have to borrow a lot money to do it. But if you don't absolutely know this is what you want, you will stuck in something you might not enjoy just for the sake of money.  Life is too short to do that.


[此贴子已经被作者于2007-3-27 0:20:17编辑过]
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发表于 2007-3-26 23:44:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用snowheat在2007-3-26 7:52:00的发言:
看第一年SALARY, .  基本TOP 20 后就属于二流了? 

国际学生想进大所的,  TOP20 后还是别读了?    要么, 回中国开律师事务所, 但是.    美国律师在中国是无法执业的.

估计中国的法律界会慢慢好起来! 

中国法本是必须的? -- check the website of Chinese Justice Department. As long as you have a B.S. or B.A.. you are elegible to take the bar exam in China. I guess a lot of people here can pass the exam with the effort.

基本TOP 20 后就属于二流了?  Usnews defines 1-50 as Tier1, 51-100 as Tier2.

TOP20 后还是别读了? --- I think your comments are rather ridiculous and insulting than helping.

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发表于 2007-3-27 00:43:00 | 只看该作者
符合以下条件的人员,可以报名参加国家司法考试:

第一,具有高等院校法律专业本科以上学历,或者高等院校其他专业本科以上学历具有法律专业知识.


你自己思考吧!  

没有中国法训练, 去理解那些也难, 更难说被法律界接受.

人家首先跟美国同行一样,也问" 你是中国哪个法学院出来的?"

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至于关于TOP20的, 我的陈述是CONDITIONAL 的好伐?   不要拿一些个案来做这种BAD GENERALIZATION.

如果你要去随便的法学院是你的自由! 

我是说给部分国际学生的.

没办法, 中国人就喜欢听好听的.  你到了LAW SCHOOL 等找工作时再来想想吧.

祝各位法学旅程好运!


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发表于 2007-3-27 01:15:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用snowheat在2007-3-27 0:43:00的发言:
符合以下条件的人员,可以报名参加国家司法考试:

第一,具有高等院校法律专业本科以上学历,或者高等院校其他专业本科以上学历具有法律专业知识.


你自己思考吧!  

没有中国法训练, 去理解那些也难, 更难说被法律界接受.

人家首先跟美国同行一样,也问" 你是中国哪个法学院出来的?"

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I have a relative who took the exam a few years ago and now is a successful lawyer in his area. I don't see any problem there.

The bar exam in China is extreme difficult. I heard that. But it is not impossible. Whoever is able to survive the American Law School can certainly do it. Whoever is able to survive the American graduate school can certainly do it. Whoever is able to survive Chinese graduate school can do it. Whoever survived Chinese college can do it. With effort, everybody can do it.

In the forum of Chinese bar training school, it is showed that there are someone who didn't even go to the usual college did it.

I don't like the idea that you think you are llb so that you can despise others. That's not nice.


[此贴子已经被作者于2007-3-27 1:24:37编辑过]
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