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redwavezheng

Life is a process of experience. I decide to apply for CBS and enjoy the process!

suncola

以下是引用chamcham在2007-8-6 8:53:00的发言：

Do anyone have some stats or roughly idea about what it is the admission rate for early decision and regular? I am trying to see if I should focus on Columbia ED but that schedule seems a bit too aggressive.

The number of students for fall full-time MBA is about 550, right? (I saw class 06 profile saying 726, but someone saying it includes Jan accelerated program)

Any comments or thoughts are appreciated,

Thanks,

Hi,

Never heard the admission rate by ED and RD but for mainland students, more were admitted in ED than in RD.

Class 07 Fall 520 + Class 07 Jan 180 = 700 Roughly.

suncola

以下是引用keepstriving在2007-8-6 18:15:00的发言：
请问一下,Jan accelerated program 和 普通的项目有什么区别啊

J-term和fall program在课程设置和找工作什么的上面没有任何区别。只是在fall term的同学们暑假作实习的时候，j-term的同学会继续上课。以05年入学，07年毕业的同学为例，时间安排如下：

05 Fall Fall-term 入学进行第一学期课程 ==> 06 Spring Fall-term进行第二学期课程；J-term入学进行第一学期课程；==> 06 Summer Fall-term进行暑期实习；J-term进行第二学期课程；==> 06 Fall Fall-term和J-term进行第三学期课程；==> 07 Spring Fall-term和J-term进行第四学期课程；==> 07 May Fall-term和J-term毕业

J-term的时间安排其实也很灵活。我也听说一些J-term的同学申请在summer的时候实习，然后把课程推迟到第二年的夏天。如果fall-term的同学希望，也可以再summer的时候选修课程，如果学分够了，在第二年春天的时候就可以毕业。

suncola

以下是引用dorisflying在2007-8-8 0:15:00的发言：

It seems that in Columbia most of the students are finance focused and would like to go for IB upon graduation. What's the chance for applicants with 'nontypical' background to get in then?

I have 4 years w/e and done GMAT 750+, TOEFL 650. Currently I'm working for an international non-profit organization as a communications manager, and before that a top American public relations agency and a world known market research company. My short term goal is to do marketing or MC in the US after graduation.

Is there anyone who has similiar communicaitons background also get in Columbia? How is marketing in Columbia? Since from the previous threads I can see that most of the admits and applicants have big 4 or IB background, I'm a little bit discouraged and wonder whether I should give up columbia and try other b-schools....

Thanks! Looking forward to NN's reply sincerely.

个人认为你的背景不算non-typical。很多同学的背景和你一样。

Columbia的就业受到了纽约的很大的影响。流行的行业选择不外乎金融，媒体，网络娱乐，奢侈品，零售，相对其它学校来说，传统行业较少。金融业，特别是IB对于大多数MBA毕业生来说，是一个很实际的选择：第一招聘人数众多，第二工资较高，第三磨练意志，第四锻炼能力。此外纽约有很多的中小型基金也是很多人就业的选择。毕竟作为价值投资理论的重镇，CBS的教授希望培养更多的价值投资者。

by function, 除了ib and consulting这两个传统的就业选择，选择marketing和non-profit的同学也越来越多，这和这两年corporate的工资水涨船高可能有点关系。

suncola

以下是引用cowboystone在2007-8-10 1:23:00的发言：
请问一个short-term career goal问题：

我的背景是5.5年美国半导体业工程师，EE Master's，有两个短期目标选项：

1。毕业后直接回国做咨询，因为有语言优势，但是需要自己找工作。

2，毕业后在美国做咨询，没有语言优势，但是on-campus recruiting可以帮助。

我想请问，那一个更让adcom信服？

非常感谢，这个问题困扰我有一段时间了。

首先大的consulting firm都是on campus recruiting，无论将来的工作地点是在美国还是在中国。Adcom是听你讲故事，这两个哪个更让你自己信服，就是哪个了。

suncola

以下是引用glgry在2007-8-11 19:05:00的发言：
Columbia的媒体方向其实也是极强的，但仿佛大家都关注金融方向去了。请问一下最近两年入学的大陆同学有媒体背景的吗？谢谢！

Class07有位同学在中国从事媒体八年，现在毕业在一家hedge fund。

chamcham

以下是引用suncola在2007-8-14 0:38:00的发言：

Hi,

Never heard the admission rate by ED and RD but for mainland students, more were admitted in ED than in RD.

Class 07 Fall 520 + Class 07 Jan 180 = 700 Roughly.

Thanks a lot for the answer, suncola. Any comments about my another questions?

I am trying to catch ED and seems be able to complete it but of course more time the better when doing it part-time. Mostly I feel like round 1 and round 2 not have too much difference in many top schools but Columbia kind of sounds like a notable exception since someone told me, out of the 550 full-time fall students, about 70% gets admission in ED. If the applicants pool size are about the same in ED and regular, then ED seems to be much better choice, or is it?

suncola

I don't have any data to support.  But guess the high percentage of ED admits results more from the high yield, than the high admission rate.

Reasons:
1) Ppl who really want to get in at CBS apply for ED, same rules apply with other schools;
2) ED applicants are assumed to take CBS the 1st choice, since they must sign sort of statement to complete the ED application package; and
3) ED admits need to pay the unrefundable 5000 deposit to secure an position within 3 weeks(?) after admissions are released.

Besides, fellowship and scholarship review deadlines are usually around that of Round 1.  So less ppl apply in Round 2.

Again, if you go ask AdCom of any school, they would say we look for talents by the same criteria in each round. But to apply earlier definitely gives you an advantage, as diversification would be considered more in later rounds than in earlier ones. Someone else may have already filled the slot that also fits you.

Hope it would help. Good luck!

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redwavezheng

Columbia can exempt my TOEFL as I get my master degree from one top B shool in UK.

2years accounting in one china energy giant, 2 years experiences of sales in one imoprt&export company, less than 1 year experience as Part time lecturer(taught UK certificate-CAT), more than 1 year experience of corporate finance in Top IT company in China.

ACCA Member

CFA Level I

Carrer goal: CFO in MNC, general management

How about the possibility to get admitted into Columbia?

Thank in advance.

suncola

No problem with your w/e. Possibility is hard to say. Good: you got good accounting/finance background, which is liked by AdCom. Bad: your experience has been very diverse. Guess u should spend time on how to organize stories to make your career goal more convincing.

To be straightforward, you should, not asking this kind of questions, start concentrating on your essays and recommendations now. This will greatly help your chance to get in.

Best luck with you!

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