Forget MBA, Be Realistic, circumvent it, come to US without wasting too much tim

caocqmc

LZ is above beyond stupidity~~~~ loser....

LeLe123

1) I support part of Harry's idea as it does reflect some truth which is covered by craze, hype and big numbers. He may use some a bit extreme word which get on other’s nerves, but generally those are facts.

 

2) I figure out that some people here intend to show his ignorance and low-class character by bashing other's opinion without any evidence or reason but rudeness.

 

3) In my opinion, applicants should consult many graduated Chinese students and get realistic. There is no black and white case, but to pursue a degree in top US school does pay a lot (or shall I say huge, compared to different applicant's background). It is always worthwhile for a second thought and rational analysis. And everyone should ask himself or herself "what you really want in the next 5 or 10years or the rest of your life?". and "Which is the best and most economic way to achieve it?".

 

Regarding to some specific case like many Chinese girls married ghosts to get........ I don't wanna argue on the percentage, but I did see some. Anyway, I really don't want to judge other's value and motivation purely on myself because you may never understand what a great love behind the cross-culture relationship.

 

4) B-school requires open discussion and innovative ideas. So if someone want to kill an interesting topic here in the forum, I would suggest he or she should not go to a MBA program (unless they just want to land on America) cause it really doesn't fit.

tupo

my 2 cents：

2/8 rule 无处不在，呵呵。 留美的，在国内的 都是一样的。所以50% 不满意或者满意，这个不是奇怪的事情。 MBA 毕业后平均salary在10w＋ ， 这个起点看起来不错，但是在NY, SV 家庭收入20w 也就是温饱水平。 只是为了money的话，大家算算毕业后多少年可以还清贷款 ＋2年只读书不工作的损失？ 对于已经在国外工作的XDJM 这就是正反30w ＋ 学费的贷款利息呀。

。。。读不读MBA 我想对一部分人来说，已经不是问题了，i mean 不管如何都要去实现一个多年的宿愿的童子是很多的。这部分人看了这个帖子也不会改变什么。

。。。MBA 是一个包装精美，内容或许丰富的商品。 marketing 作的NIU, 价钱就高。“货”买回家了，如何用。如何增值也是个大的挑战，个人认为比你进入top10还有挑战。

说了一堆，还是 该学的学，该玩的玩。 自己的路自己走呗

苞米

楼主的大部分理论也可以用来证明上大学是"waste time and money"

1. MBA cost too much. --> 上大学（大学时和上大学之前）的花费更多。

2.100K annual salary is boasted by universities to attract applicants.--〉绝大多数大学生毕业还找不到工作呢！

4. American dream is not easy to realize. 想在大城市里生活真不容易，搞不好被抓去筛沙子。

5.  New Oriental School, ETS, American Universities and even American Embessy are making huge profit from us. ---> 想象我们从小到大缴的各种苛捐杂费。

6.It is a pity for Chinese to chase perfect scores on GRE,GMAT,LSAT,TOEFL, --> 这个不用说了，还有比高考更变态的吗？

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Mobilegate

以下是引用苞米在2007-1-17 11:58:00的发言：

楼主的大部分理论也可以用来证明上大学是"waste time and money"

1. MBA cost too much. --> 上大学（大学时和上大学之前）的花费更多。

2.100K annual salary is boasted by universities to attract applicants.--〉绝大多数大学生毕业还找不到工作呢！

4. American dream is not easy to realize. 想在大城市里生活真不容易，搞不好被抓去筛沙子。

5.  New Oriental School, ETS, American Universities and even American Embessy are making huge profit from us. ---> 想象我们从小到大缴的各种苛捐杂费。

6.It is a pity for Chinese to chase perfect scores on GRE,GMAT,LSAT,TOEFL, --> 这个不用说了，还有比高考更变态的吗？

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Interesting points. up.

MBA does mean something to somebody, not everyone can be the winner of 5 M RMB jack pot.

huhai

以下是引用tupo在2007-1-17 10:49:00的发言：

my 2 cents：

 。。。读不读MBA 我想对一部分人来说，已经不是问题了，i mean 不管如何都要去实现一个多年的宿愿的童子是很多的。这部分人看了这个帖子也不会改变什么。

 

AGREE.

huhai

个人观点: 我不全盘否定楼主的观点。但是，（感觉有点象GMAT逻辑题），问他的观点BASED ON 以下哪个ASSUMUPTION？

答案之一为： 去美国读MBA的几乎全部人都是将FINANCIAL的回报/定居作为第一目标的。

那么，象我一样的一部分人（不知道比例是多少）可以给出一个驳斥原文结论的条件，IF TRUE：

我们的答案是： 我们不是完全将FINANCIAL回报作为第一位的，甚至按照我自己的背景条件可能估计到，AFTER MBA完全有可能挣不到现在的工资的。我们的目标可能是人生的经历和思想的提高，素质的提高呢？那么原文结论就削弱了。

eds

If you want to survive in US, as a foreigner, Go Get the Damn Green Card FIRST! Period.

[此贴子已经被作者于2007-1-17 23:07:28编辑过]

coquin81

points to discuss.. i think many chinese students have even really high scores at university.. but thats not all...
I f you just wann earn €€€ ya dotn need to go to the state/or even study.. there are laods of ppl who are rich without a  degree:-P

Btw, the MBA thing is pretty scary.. if you got to top schools without payin anythign.. pecfect.. else plese consider if you really need that MBA? for what? after 1-2 years.. which experience you did have .. stuffs like that.... Phs is another approach .. to get into the academic/research.. but it takes time.. c*est lavie....


if yu have too much money.. invest your money!!! lol:-P


Cheers