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[求助]突然转不过向来,问一到og80的题

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11#
发表于 2006-6-16 12:21:00 | 只看该作者
我想请问一下10楼的朋友,那么这道题到底是怎么他因削弱的呢,能说的详细些吗?
12#
发表于 2006-6-18 18:21:00 | 只看该作者

if B followed A, people are likely to contribute A to B without taking other possible causes into consideration...probably, A is a factor that caused B to happen but not the only factor...if you wanna waken the argument that the decreased price (A) leads to the failure (B), you have to clarify that factors other than A can cause the program to be a failure.  


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发表于 2006-6-18 19:12:00 | 只看该作者

E加强了结论啊

14#
发表于 2006-6-18 21:45:00 | 只看该作者

所有的assumption都是support,而且是100%的support。

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发表于 2006-8-31 10:01:00 | 只看该作者
这道题我条件结论我还是没分清,请指教。再贴一下题目

The program to control the entry of illegal drugs into the country was a failure in 1987. If the program had been
successful, the wholesale price of most illegal drugs would not have dropped substantially in 1987.
80. The argument in the passage depends on which of the following assumptions?
(A) The supply of illegal drugs dropped substantially in 1987.
(B) The price paid for most illegal drugs by the average consumer did not drop substantially in 1987.
(C) Domestic production of illegal drugs increased at a higher rate than did the entry of such drugs into the
country.
(D) The wholesale price of a few illegal drugs increased substantially in 1987.
(E) A drop in demand for most illegal drugs in 1987 was not the sole cause of the drop in their wholesale pice

麻烦大家告诉我,哪个是前提,哪个是结论?
我的理解:第一句话是conclusion,第二句是reasoning。
由successful-->~ price drop substantially即price drop substantially-->failure。
可是我感觉答案E取非的话,即充要price drop substantially<=>demand drop
那这个取非后的假设是怎么他因削弱原结论的呢?我绕不过来了。。。
16#
发表于 2006-8-31 10:04:00 | 只看该作者
到底是failure-->price drop还是price drop->failure 呢?
将考之人,大家帮忙!谢谢!
17#
发表于 2006-8-31 14:53:00 | 只看该作者
结论是:If the program had been successful, the wholesale price of most illegal drugs would not have dropped substantially in 1987.
即the wholesale price drugs dropped-->program failure。
把E取非A drop in demand for most illegal drugs in 1987 was not the sole cause of the drop in their wholesale price.
drop in their wholesale price-->the sole cause is A drop in demand 
这不久推出存在它因吗?

18#
发表于 2006-8-31 15:30:00 | 只看该作者
楼上GG 偶也是九月队的,现在逻辑是恐怖的瓶颈期。。。好像还是理不顺,劳烦再看一下好么?

1、A->B A是因,B是果,对不?

2、他因假设排除就是

在存在A->B的情况下,我应当假设不会有C-->B ,而不是不会有A->C ,对么?(这也是我没看懂你写的为什么很明显就是推出了他因的地方)

3、可是这题好像有点特殊,因为E的取非是个充要条件,也就是E说不是有且仅有C能推出B,A也是可以的,这话对么?

下面,那么根据具体题中C代表deman下降,B代表price下降,那么往前面(A->B中)代,就是A代表failure,

那不就是failure-->price下降,而不是反过来的price下降 ->failure了吗?

但愿我没把你扯晕,。。。拜托再看看

谢谢了!

    

    

再罗嗦一句,看了OG的解释

The only choice that must be true in order to conclude legitimately from the drop in the wholesale price of illegal

drugs that the program was a failure (说明原文想用E来表达的是drop in price->failure)is
choice E, the best answer. If the drop in price was caused by a drop
indemand, there is no reason to suspect that there has been any
increase in supply caused by drugs entering the
country.(如果价格的下降是因为需求的下降,则没有理由认为毒品的进入会产生任何供给量的上涨。这里它是把E取反了,说如果demand下降--
>price下降,那么跟原文不一致了,就不能说毒品进入-->供给量增加->价格下降),标红处说明原文的意思是毒品进入-->供给量增加-->价格下降,很显然就是说program
            failure-->price drop

以上我的注明有什么错么?

同一句话出现了正反两种推导。所以我很不明白这题哪个是结论哪个是前提,到底谁推出谁,还是说就是个充要的意思

                

我已经完全陷进泥潭了。。。盼回复

            

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发表于 2007-12-16 09:22:00 | 只看该作者

自己整理了一下..供参考:

价格下降推出计划失败,前提应该是价格下降肯定表明了计划失败,价格下降是由两个因素引起的,一个是需求下降,另一个是供给上升。当前提为需求下降不是唯一原因时,表明还有其它因素,即供给上升导致价格下降,如果是供给上升的话,则计划肯定就是失败了,因为计划就是在限制供给。

20#
发表于 2009-2-4 06:42:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用clevermonkey在2007-12-16 9:22:00的发言:

自己整理了一下..供参考:

价格下降推出计划失败,前提应该是价格下降肯定表明了计划失败,价格下降是由两个因素引起的,一个是需求下降,另一个是供给上升。当前提为需求下降不是唯一原因时,表明还有其它因素,即供给上升导致价格下降,如果是供给上升的话,则计划肯定就是失败了,因为计划就是在限制供给。
                

By saying that a drop in demand was not the sole cause, E implies that an increase in supply and thus supports the conclusion that the program was unsuccessful. 这好像要求考生理解经济学中均衡市场的价格理论,而GMAT本来不assume考生特定的专业知识,是不是因此在OG11中就把这题删了呢?

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