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Ivey商学院中国学生答疑-The next deadline is Feb 1st

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发表于 2005-9-8 10:55:00 | 只看该作者
学校四五月份就结束考试了,统计数据需要六个月?
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发表于 2005-9-8 12:06:00 | 只看该作者

其实学校统计的数据不是很准,水分是有的。第一手资料是最好能从我们的毕业同胞那里的来,我知道几年前一位IVEY毕业同胞,毕业几个月后找到一份GOVERMENT CONTRACT 的FINANCIAL ANALYST职位.听说从去年开始,找工作很容易,基本都能得到至少一个OFFER。

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发表于 2005-9-9 00:14:00 | 只看该作者

你好,首先感谢你们在繁忙学习中抽时间来回答问题.我本科多大毕业,在大学时候创了业,从事印刷方面的业务,至今3年,也逐渐开始扩展到其他方面,如设计,媒体,广告方面的工作.因为来加拿大已近5年,所以曾考虑过去IVEY,或者ROTMAN读MBA.唯一有顾虑的就是毕业后的前景与在世界各地的校友网络,不知道12楼指的找工作容易是什么样的一个概念,$65K左右还是$100K左右,因为自己生意的缘故,现收入跟替别人做税后已差不了多少,对IVEY的印象很不错,希望能够得到些中国同学群体里面的第一手资料.


谢谢

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发表于 2005-9-9 00:34:00 | 只看该作者
Gratitude for your great support!!!
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发表于 2005-9-9 02:09:00 | 只看该作者
先支持一把的说!
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发表于 2005-9-9 07:51:00 | 只看该作者
Hi, I'm an Ivey MBA candidate 2007.  The data of Ivey MBA 2005's employment is not available yet.  The only official data I have is offered by Ivey Shanghai Office in 2004 about Salary Survey of Ivey Chinese graduates.  Due to lack of transfer methods in this forum, please give me your email address through CD message.  I'll send that file to you as soon as possible.
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发表于 2005-9-9 08:02:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用jkmbe在2005-9-9 0:14:00的发言:

你好,首先感谢你们在繁忙学习中抽时间来回答问题.我本科多大毕业,在大学时候创了业,从事印刷方面的业务,至今3年,也逐渐开始扩展到其他方面,如设计,媒体,广告方面的工作.因为来加拿大已近5年,所以曾考虑过去IVEY,或者ROTMAN读MBA.唯一有顾虑的就是毕业后的前景与在世界各地的校友网络,不知道12楼指的找工作容易是什么样的一个概念,$65K左右还是$100K左右,因为自己生意的缘故,现收入跟替别人做税后已差不了多少,对IVEY的印象很不错,希望能够得到些中国同学群体里面的第一手资料.


谢谢



2/3以上的中国人还是回中国工作的,回国拿工作OFFER很容易,当然工资是比不上留在加拿大。但他们大多已经拿到加拿大身份,又喜欢中国的生活环境,所以回国也是很好的选择。总之,IVEY毕业后是一定可以找到很好的工作的,这不用担心,至于薪酬,就要看自己以前的工作经验和本事了。


如果你现在已经赚6W加币以上,又不想到投行或咨询公司这类对MBA学历比较看重的行业工作的话,那我认为是没有必要花这么大的机会成本到IVEY的。

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发表于 2005-9-9 08:18:00 | 只看该作者

另外,如果你注重校友网,想做行业领袖的话,那在加拿大首当其冲选IVEY。IVEY注重的就是GENERAL MANAGEMENT,培养Leader。无论在世界范围内还是中国范围内,IVEY都有着庞大的校友网,对你创业会有很大的帮助。还有很重要的一点,IVEY是北美仅有的三所编写案例的商学院之一(另外两所是哈佛和DARDEN)。商学院的同学总会读到或多或少的IVEY案例,这进一步扩大了IVEY的声誉和知名度。至少读过商学院的同学不可能不知道IVEY。


如果你很看重这几年的排名,那IVEY确实是近况不佳,尤其是在经济衰退期,IVEY学生就业受到的影响比ROTMAN,SCHULICH更明显。但现在经济好转,去年毕业形势很好,这次IVEY在排行榜上的就业分值应该会显著提高。

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发表于 2005-9-9 13:13:00 | 只看该作者

谢谢楼上两位这么详细的解释,ROTMAN名次的上升我也觉得很难解释,唯一能找到的理由就是多伦多大学的地理位置与财力支持. 去了去年的MBA TOUR,展会上很明显IVEY的准备比ROTMAN,YORK高出一个档次.我的一个客户是95年IVEY毕业,去了纽约GOLDMAN做IB,现在转行做PRIVATE EQUITY,不知道象他这类在整个MBA CLASS里面算不算凤毛麟角? 我的EMAIL:jyuan@bellnet.ca,谢谢

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 楼主| 发表于 2005-9-10 11:33:00 | 只看该作者

下面把这几天的问题集中答复一下


1) Job placement statistics. Statistics for 2005 will not be available until late Oct. To p200002, no school starts to calculate placement stats upon graduates leave school. Schools have no way to get job placement infomation unless their graduates report to them individually. That's why no school could release such stats very soon.


2) Background of applicants. Student pool is extremely diversified at Ivey, which is one of the most important factors attracting me to Ivey. Applicants from all background are encouraged to apply. I would like to list a few "uncommon" students. This year, as I know, we have 2 journalists, 3 former physicians or surgeons, 2 English teachers, and even 1 pastor. If all these uncommon backgrounds are not strange to you, I bet you will get astonished by an opera singer who graduated last year. Don't worry you have not held a so called "typical" background. Unique background is always welcome, if you are good enough.


3) How to write essays? We are NOT supposed to give you directions in details and we are NOT allowed to proofread your application documents. Generally speaking, to be youself, to show your uniqueness, and to show what you can contribute to the learning experience of your Ivey classmates will be the key.


4) How high should my GMAT be? Ivey looks at your application as whole. GMAT itself does not distinguish you from others, or vice versa. It is NOT true that Chinese applicants with GMAT <700 get rejected. We do have Chinese students here with a GMAT lower than 700.


5) When shall I write my GMAT? Personally, I believe the earlier the better. However, I know a guy who wrote his GMAT on Aug 24, 2005 and got accepted the next day. He is really a brilliant guy. He submitted all his application materials except GMAT earlier this year.


6) When to apply? Again, the earlier, the better. Any way, if you believe you are outstanding enough, you could apply as late as you want, but I don't encourage you to take that risk unless you have strong reasons to justify your decision.


7) Is it easy to find a job? To be frank, I don't know. Job hunting for anybody is a unque case. Even if statistics indicate 99% grads get half million a year, you could be the 1% who lose. Personally, I appreciate a former HBS dean's comment. He said "Harvard MBAs earn a lot of money because they used to earn a lot of money before they came to Harvard". Top MBA programs are designed to help you from successes to bigger successes.


Generally speaking, Ivey Chinese grads are easy to get a very decent and well paid job in China. At the same time, a lot of them get good job in Canada. Economy in Canada is getting much better than a couple of years ago. Personally, I am confident in this point. But more important, I believe Ivey will change not only my job, but the rest of my life.

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