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Ivey or Queen's ?

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发表于 2012-1-20 10:20:35 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |正序浏览 |阅读模式
Ivey 和 Queen's都是12-month的MBA, 都是春季开学,也都在距离Toronto两三小时左右的地方。

网上貌似对Ivey的reputation更佳,不知道大家对这两家怎么评价呢,都说说两家的优缺点吧,尤其是Queen's, CD上好像关注这个的比较少。我在Queen's的网站看了他家的program,觉得一个特点是有很多coaching support,另外是小班制,每年招生大概在60人左右。费用方面后者也比前者便宜了1万多加币。

另外,Ivey的一个特点是intensive case study, 跟该校一个工作人员聊过(他说可以跟Harvard媲美),他们的program基本都是通过案例教学完成的,不知道这种方式是否workload太重,是否有什么缺点?
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22#
发表于 2012-5-11 23:55:25 | 只看该作者
Queen's有种族歧视吗?。。。。。。我一直不觉得,不过Kingston确实是几乎全白人,完全见不到黑人。好像是95%的白人。。。。。
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发表于 2012-5-11 20:16:24 | 只看该作者
queens和uwo怎么可能不在同一level上呢,而且queens的mba这几年是全加最好。queens不好的地方是点种族歧视。

觉得ivey特别盛产party animal,就因为london那地方生活太枯燥 :-P。多伦多就不同了,生活好很多,york的中国学生多,net working会更好。
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发表于 2012-5-11 11:31:45 | 只看该作者
给你看一个在那边呆了很多年的人的一封邮件

I don't know much about the master programs at these two schools, but I do know, based on the undergraduate program reputation, in Canada UWO' Ivey is considered the top 1 or 2 business school (the other school being Queen's Business School). UWO Ivey is very well known within Canada's financial center (which is Toronto), it is also one of the most popular schools to hire from, for anything from investment banking, to accounting...I actually have friends from both UWO and UBC, and UWO was way easier at getting jobs in Canada. But again, this is based on my understanding of their undergraduate school reputation, which may/may not apply to the masters programs.


Another thing to be aware of is, if it is your plan to stay in Canada for jobs afterwards, UWO Ivey is much closer to Toronto (Canada's financial center), as well as New York City and Boston, and Toronto firms in general have greater appetite to hire from Ivey compared to far-away schools like UBC (on the other hand, I would think UBC is a popular school to hire from in Vancouver - but the comparison of Toronto vs. Vancouver I would draw is, Toronto = Shanghai, Vancouver = Chengdu/Tianjin at best - so there is way more business job opportunities in Toronto)


Another example I can give you about UWO is that, like how a lot of  business school in the US studies off business cases (class material) written by Harvard, schools here in Canada often will refer to business cases written by UWO Ivey.


So based on general reputation of the schools alone in Canada, I would recommend going with UWO. However, it does depend a lot on your goals after graduation (do you plan on staying in Canada or China?), if UBC's reputation in China is important to you, you should give UBS a thought. If you plan on staying in Canada afterwards, UWO Ivey is a great choice.


If it is your plan to go back to China, I would still encourage you to consider staying in Canada after graduation for some work experience here, which circles back to my recommendation about UWO Ivey....it is one thing to say you went to UBC (a school better known in China) for school, but it is another to say you work for this or that international company in Canada for few years, which is also well established in China.


Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any more questions, and let me know what you decide in the end.
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-1-30 15:40:07 | 只看该作者
好吧,diversity 也算Schulich的一大特色吧。没有特别的strength也没有特别的weakness,感觉均衡的一个学校,性价比好像也蛮高的。

Ivey以全案例模式为其教学特色,不知道Schulich在Academic教学方面有何特长强项呢?我在其网站上没有找到太多具体的信息。

和QUEEN'S相比, IVEY和SCHULICH的名气要大些.

不过IVEY的全案例教学对学生的英文要求还是很高的, 不是说你雅思GMAT能考多高, 而是你英文的实际应用能力. 比如能否能比较顺畅的做presentation, 用英文和其他同学argue或reasoning...

我觉得加拿大前三的MBA的话, SCHULICH的性价比最高.
-- by 会员 Siegfred (2012/1/29 14:38:08)



-- by 会员 布什 (2012/1/30 11:27:32)




这个...其实多数MBA在教学上都是传统的课堂式教学, 没啥所谓的强项. 要说SCHULICH的特点, 我和学校的admission officer见面聊过, 几个人都强调了diversity--学校的老师和学生来自世界各地, 所以多种来源的思想和潮流可以碰撞出智慧的火花...

Diversity这个特点到底好不好, 可就是仁者见仁,智者见智了.
-- by 会员 Siegfred (2012/1/30 13:56:36)

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发表于 2012-1-30 13:58:31 | 只看该作者
SCHULICH International student rate 好像是50%多。。。。。
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发表于 2012-1-30 13:56:36 | 只看该作者
Ivey以全案例模式为其教学特色,不知道Schulich在Academic教学方面有何特长强项呢?我在其网站上没有找到太多具体的信息。

和QUEEN'S相比, IVEY和SCHULICH的名气要大些.

不过IVEY的全案例教学对学生的英文要求还是很高的, 不是说你雅思GMAT能考多高, 而是你英文的实际应用能力. 比如能否能比较顺畅的做presentation, 用英文和其他同学argue或reasoning...

我觉得加拿大前三的MBA的话, SCHULICH的性价比最高.
-- by 会员 Siegfred (2012/1/29 14:38:08)


-- by 会员 布什 (2012/1/30 11:27:32)



这个...其实多数MBA在教学上都是传统的课堂式教学, 没啥所谓的强项. 要说SCHULICH的特点, 我和学校的admission officer见面聊过, 几个人都强调了diversity--学校的老师和学生来自世界各地, 所以多种来源的思想和潮流可以碰撞出智慧的火花...

Diversity这个特点到底好不好, 可就是仁者见仁,智者见智了.
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-1-30 11:27:32 | 只看该作者
Ivey以全案例模式为其教学特色,不知道Schulich在Academic教学方面有何特长强项呢?我在其网站上没有找到太多具体的信息。

和QUEEN'S相比, IVEY和SCHULICH的名气要大些.

不过IVEY的全案例教学对学生的英文要求还是很高的, 不是说你雅思GMAT能考多高, 而是你英文的实际应用能力. 比如能否能比较顺畅的做presentation, 用英文和其他同学argue或reasoning...

我觉得加拿大前三的MBA的话, SCHULICH的性价比最高.
-- by 会员 Siegfred (2012/1/29 14:38:08)

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发表于 2012-1-29 14:38:08 | 只看该作者
和QUEEN'S相比, IVEY和SCHULICH的名气要大些.

不过IVEY的全案例教学对学生的英文要求还是很高的, 不是说你雅思GMAT能考多高, 而是你英文的实际应用能力. 比如能否能比较顺畅的做presentation, 用英文和其他同学argue或reasoning...

我觉得加拿大前三的MBA的话, SCHULICH的性价比最高.
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-1-29 10:24:13 | 只看该作者
如果是Ivey 和  Schulich之间做选择呢?后者也在多伦多市区。Rotman的费用太给力了。。。

Ivey距多伦多2个小时,Queen大概在3个以上。。。还是有差别的。。。

London起码是个city,kingston就是个town吧,,,

若是Ivey和Rotman,我觉得还可以纠结一下,毕竟R的地理位置那么好。。。
-- by 会员 napoleon7424 (2012/1/29 1:18:49)

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