小心我们的机经被外国人出卖了！！！

sohokyo

中国人要团结，不要帮外国人又被出卖!!

2008年2月，一个韩国人在美国的Beat the GMAT网站因为得到JJ的帮助得了750。 那个韩国人不但不感恩还出卖了我们。

以下是他的原文地址：

http://www.beatthegmat.com/first-time-660-second-time-680-this-time-750-q50-v41-t8416.html

First time 660 (Q42, V39), second time 680 (Q43, V40), this time 750 (Q50, V41)
       

I am Korean. In Sep and Nov 2006, I took GMAT twice in Korea and got score 660 and 680. I was so depressed because I need a perfect score (≥700) to apply MBA from Korea.

In May 2007, I came to China for working reason and made many Chinese friends there. I was shocked by the fact that many of them scored 720 or even higher. Because of the language barrier, three months later I came to understand the reason: their ability in math is powerful , many people score 49-51 in math! Later, a friend told me to study the Chinese people’s GMAT Bible “JJ”. I was so confused but finally came to understand what is “JJ”.

Hundreds of Chinese take GMAT around the world every day. After the test, some people will write down the questions they met in the test as soon as possible and as much as possible to provide to others who will take the test soon. Yes! They are very united in TOEFL,GRE and GMAT! In China, it is call” You planted a tree for me to enjoy the cool, and I will plant another tree for the man behind me!”Chinese has EXPERIENCED GRE and GMAT for many years and they are now absolutely EXPERT in GRE and GMAT.

One of my close Chinese friends who got a score 780 last year told me a secret: In actual GMAT exam, there is a very large question POOL (about 40,000 -60,000 questions).each month about 1200 questions are regularly selected from the POOL, and then about 75 percent will be replaced next month. Then if there is one question in last month GMAT test, you still have a chance of 25% to face it this month and still about 6% next month.

The Most important is next!!

Since the GMAT question pool is the same all over the world each month, you get a chance about 6% to meet the same question I meet this month. OK, if 100 person each write down 10 questions he met in this month, then to each question (for example NO.966 of the monthly pool),the possibility it is included in the monthly “JJ” is :1- (1-10/1200) ^100≈56.88% !!!
Finally, he gave me the professional “JJ” from Jul 07-Dec 07 (AP)and Jan 08(C.Today, I meet 17 questions the same in the “JJ” above. Especially in my Math test, I meet 6 questions in the “JJ” (AP)and 6 in the “JJ” last month(C!! Of the 12 questions above, six is DS. Of course, I saved much time and passed the test easily.
I have asked a Chinese friend before why GMAC or ETS do not investigate Chinese? He surprised me: In Commonwealth of Nations, nobody dares to make “JJ” because the government or ETS is easy to survey and will cancel the maker’s MBA qualification. But in China, the government does not care much about that.
Now, I feel that although I benefited a lot from “JJ” i still feel so sorry...

In addition, very important: I have a specific statistics of GMAT scores (over 1,200 individual data analysis), but I can not affix it in this article or I am not good at computer??? If you are interested and write EMAIL to me, I will Email you. I have benefited much from here and I will do my best to help everybody!!
       
My email: DELETED

Btw, I wonder if the administrator can tell me how to upload a Excel statistics here??
     

这篇文章引起了美国人对我们强烈的不满。还说要向ETS反映我们作弊。参与讨论的美国学生：

1：Dude, this is the most messed up thing I have ever heard. No wonder why a good quant score is getting more difficult to achieve. I hope they catch these cheaters and put a stop to this for good. By the way, whoever wrote this post - if you cheated I hope they catch you too. You may get into a decent school with your GMAT score, but cheaters never get far in life. And you have also proved how much of an idiot you are for posting something like this on the web.

Eric, this is sickening

2：Sickening indeed!!, Is GMAC aware of this. If they are not can we atleast use this post to bring it to their attention that something like this is happening, I know this is a post on an online forum and wouldnt count exactly as evidence but atleast it might prompt them into investigating the matter. I just hope people who use such methods to ace the test are banned permanently, along with their test being considered as void. This is so unfair to people who actually work hard to score well on this test. Unfortunately GMAT is increasingly becoming important (No matter what the B Schools say) for your admission to a good B School and people who have a good score on it (cheating or otherwise) stand a better chance at getting into a good B School.

3：It's very unethical but definitely not sickening. There used to hordes of Chinese students who scored 800,800 on the GRE with very little ability to speak English. None of our professors knew how or why they were able to score so heavily. A lot of us undergrads suffered because our sessions with TA's were unbearable. Eventually, a GRE score from a Chinese candidate received no consideration unless the score was really low. These things have a way of working out

My advice to you: stop worrying about what other people are doing and worry about your exam. I saw a lot of questions on the quant that were highly similar to questions on the Official guides and as long as you know the concept you have nothing to worry about.

To all those who talk about cheating etc. Well, for one, the idea that there is a universal moral standard everyone abides by is just a pipe dream. You'll face a lot worse at work and Business school you can trust me on that.

希望中国人能团结，不要帮了外国人还被外国人出卖！！！同学们要自信，JJ是我们团结的结果，我们很聪明，没JJ我们也是最棒的！大家好好打好基本功！加油,CDers!

gpxb0626

你们发帖题目都像我作文机警那样就安全了

qq309790244

天哪，OMG~不知道说什么了，这个帖子是什么时候的啊，恐怖，这个坛子一定要加强管理才行

amazing_z

太不要脸了！！！这次韩国棒子怎么不说JJ是他们发明的了

jennylanlan

TMD棒子得了便宜还卖乖，无耻，鄙视！诅咒他签证不过，诅咒他一就业就破产！

棒子智商负无穷，所以不靠狗狗数学永远差，这也不能怪中国人太聪明啊！中国大多数人都不是靠数学狗狗发家的，棒子不知道就不要像疯狗一样乱咬！

babee2queen

这篇还是要顶滴！大家一定要注意不要让类似事件再次发生……

verylotus

太过分了！！！！

知更鳥

我與高麗棒子有不共戴天之仇!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!希望 CD網能封鎖以來自高麗的帳號....

還有以後不能對高麗想考AT的人有惻隱之心了


sorry~~~剛才用詞太激動,因為我明天要裸奔

心城skyblue

这种警示贴最好每个月都发一次，让每一个新来的CDer都珍惜这来之不易的机经，同时提高防范意识

赋格

老早的事情了，就因为如此，才有钩子，太太乐的推广。