[求助]在迷茫中绝望,真诚希望得到各位的帮助!

cd

个人感觉， 如果真的是不想作研究， 就早点离开这个行业。先工作， 无论什么工作， 从基础开始， 工作到3－4年就可以申请MBA了。

没有值得不值得， 只有愿意不愿意。 人生很多事情都没那么完美的计划可以执行。只要你愿意， 总是可以走自己想走的路的。

my two cents

我得情况和楼主比较象, 只是我走得更远, 我到了研究生阶段才发现根本对research一点感觉没有. 我也时搞生物研究的(虽然不是bioinformatics), 但相关领域知道一点点, 说实话,你要是根本没兴趣的话,趁早出来. 那玩意儿虽然好像工资高一点, 但比做试验还要枯燥.

赞成brace说得, 先工作,只要不是research的都可以考虑, 先走出来再说. 还有, 如果一时半会儿出不来的话, 要考虑工作中的多样性, 比如,你做research同时,是不是也否则training啊, 项目的合作啊等等. 另外, 课余生活要丰富些, 多参加些社会活动, 以后会发现, 这对你的申请.写essay, 甚至就在职业上向其他方面的发展都很有好处的. 以我得经验, 除了academic的小圈子, communication ability, social ability和比较丰富的生活经历, 无论对找工作还是MBA, 往往有着重要的,甚至决定性的影响. 所以, 一句话, 多样性的职业挑战加上活跃的社会生活对你的计划会很有帮助.

这段历程我走了5年, 反反复复, 期间也在国外读了一个master(生物类的). 感觉真是那句话, 男怕入错行. 不过现在毕业的,从选择性上讲, 比我那时候(97)好多了,你的目标也比较明确, 应该不会走太多弯路, 祝你成功!

1) Tuck school of Business and Thayer School of Engineering (they have bioengineering, imaging and other research on cancer and etc. ) at Dartmouth College have a joint program called Master of Engineering Management (MEM):  http://engineering.dartmouth.edu/thayer/academicsadmissions/graduate-mem.html . You might want to apply now if you are interested in it.

2) You can also have a PHD here, and then apply to b-schools after graduation. Some PHD students do work for companies after graduation.

3) I am heading for the biotech industry in U.S.. Please let me know if you have further questions.

for your information, Bioinformatics is not as hot as two or three years ago. The starting salary is also not as high as what u described. Three years ago, a new Bioinformatics graduate can get a starting salary at $50k, while last year, the same major graduate only can find a job start with $30k+. There's a big difference in money. Many faculites realized that Bioinformatics graduates are not necessary for each lab, if their research is not heavily rely on the statistics analysis and modeling.

My personal suggestion is that you'd better get working experience first, in either area, research or business. Your backgroud can be diversed. Based on your current experience, I would say you don't know which industry you want to get into. So find a job first, and experience more both in life and in workplace is a good choice.

To brace, ygjm:

谢谢你们两个的热心建议,我想问你们一个问题,就是我大学毕业直接去工作的话,以我的背景,很难在国内的一些金融类的公司找到工作,如果找生物类的公司的话,也是做研发.那么,我是不是要再去读一个金融的硕士呢?这样的话是不是会比较好一点,如果不走Finance,单纯从研发做起,再做销售,再做经理的话那时间会不会很长,而且我是对投资这个方向十分感兴趣,可能对传统的管理和营销不是太感兴趣!

T wgst

Thanks for your kind response! And it is indeed very useful for me. As you expected, I have some further questions which are concerned with opportunities and experiences for a PHD or a pure researchers to apply MBA, to expect for your sincere response.

My first question is that, if one workes in research departments in industry or in academic fields as a faculty, to what extent would one get an offer from top B-schools? Suppose that during the period of study and work, one dedicates himself to social work and business affairs as possible as one can to develop his finance quotient (FQ). Althougth one does his best to cultivate this ability, it is likely that one will failed simply because that he did not have any chance to do practical work with regard to finance and his experinces were gained from theories. And in that conditions, top B-schools are not inclined to value this kind of students, so the probability is very low for them. Are my assumptions right, or just totally fallacious?

My second question is about the average time needed for a PHD students to work to earn enough experience to apply for B-schools. I have heard about that some B-schools would accept PHD directly after their graduation from graduate schools and the reason is that their last two year experience in graduate schools could be regarded as work experience if they do some project in industry field conducted by their boss or advisor. So, if possible, would you like to confirm the reliability of this piece of news and the ratio of those cases? If it is impossible for them to apply MBA immediately after graduations, then how long will them need to work in order to apply MBA?

My third question is about the prabablity of the enrollment about an optional finance degree in America. If I am a graduate students in Bioinformatics, is it possible for me to pursue a secondary degree or at least enroll some optional courses in finance? If it is possible, then how much should I pay for these courses?

Maybe the number of questions is quite more, but I am indeed eager to your responses>

Thank you!

回aidn:

觉得能工作的话, 还是工作. 不一定非得去金融方面的公司啊, 生物方面搞市场的不行吗? 先跨上一步再说嘛. 而且, 据我所知, 在国内, 你就是想搞生物研发可能也得有个master的学位, 本科的多去搞市场和销售.

大四的时候多跑跑, 各种机会都试试, 会有好结果的! 我大四的时候在一家美资的房地产公part time, 和生物一点关系也没有. 还有, 你要是各种背景比较强的话, consulting, IB方面不妨试试, 这些地方找人不怎么看专业的

To babypace:

Thanks for your sincere response, and your suggestions have enlightened me a lot.! My informations about the placement and job markets of Bioinformatics is obtained from a paper in economics:"Bioinformatics: Recent Trends in Programs, Placements and Job Opportunities". The investigation was conducted by Grant C. Black and Paula E. Stephan from Department of Economics, Georgia State University in 2003. They said the average of salary for a master students was about $90,000-100,000 in 2002 and indeed many of them earned $50,000 especially in academic field. Consistent with your description, they predicted the trend of job markets of Bioinformatics, and said that it is very likely that the salary will decrease because the relationship between supplies and reqirements.

I suppose that you have experience in Bioinfo, or perhaps you are an expert in economics. Because there are relatively few people who know the job markets of Bioinformatics in the United States. Maybe my assuption is right or maybe totally wrong. And I still have some questions to expect your kind help. My questions have been stated above. Would you please take a little time to reply my questions? I am very eager to your earnest responses!

Thank your very much!

Give my best wishes to you-- kind-hearted "babypace"!

To ygjm:

主要我现在如果申请Bioinfo方向的话,很有可能拿一个奖出去念PHD或Master,我主要就是想能不能到那边同时修一个Finance的学位然后再找一个有关Finance的工作,不做Bioinfo了,听说在美国申请比在中国申请容易的多!如果我现在放弃一切去工作的话我要承受来自很多方面的压力:1.父母的: 我的研肯定可以保,还有机会可能出国,如果去找工作的话他们一定不理解. 2.导师的: 导师是一个学术狂,我出国他同意,但如果我去找一个无关的工作,他也会有意见的. 3.学校的: 我们这个班是一个国家基地班,如果学生不读研,而去找工作,学校方面也不好交待. 可能我的想法太幼稚了,但是在这种压力下,很多事情即使你不想去做都不得不考虑. 何况我现在去找工作的话不一定有那么强的竞争力. 我主要是想能不能在国外读Bioinfo的同时修一个Finance的双学位,然后找Finance领域的工作,或者直接考国内的Finance的研,但是不清楚这样的可行性!而且听说国外比国内申MBA好申请得多,不知道这些都是不是真的!

还有ygjm兄现在在国内吗,能不能说说你是怎样一跳出科研领域的啊,你打算工作几年再申请MBA啊,或者已经申到了MBA工作了几年啊?