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做weaken题,只能反对他的结论,不能反对前提,对吗?

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楼主
发表于 2005-6-24 00:42:00 | 只看该作者
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沙发
发表于 2005-6-24 10:22:00 | 只看该作者

不太理解两位的讨论,我认为可以吧。


比如 A-->B 发对前提 A ,认为非A--》B,当然是WEAKEN了。

板凳
发表于 2005-6-24 14:22:00 | 只看该作者

不一定吧!如果前提是既定事实的话,当然没得反对,但如果前提是IF条件句或者是人的主观推测的话(just list a few),完全有可能通过推翻前提从而削弱结论的。OG中就有好几道这种题。



地板
发表于 2005-6-25 17:42:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用ring_cheng在2005-6-24 14:22:00的发言:

不一定吧!如果前提是既定事实的话,当然没得反对,但如果前提是IF条件句或者是人的主观推测的话(just list a few),完全有可能通过推翻前提从而削弱结论的。OG中就有好几道这种题。



  

Ring JJ 应是不小心打错了, 我个人觉得是不能通过对if条件的削弱来削弱结论的。因为原结论是在if条件成立的情况下推出的,我们只能怀疑if条件成立的情况下,结论是否成立,也就是怀疑if条件的充分性,而不能通过说“在if不成立的情况下结果如何”来虚弱原结论。 举个例子,原结论是“如果我逻辑题目能完全读懂,我CR错误率就可以在10%以内”,削弱可以是“虽然我逻辑题目能读懂,但我脑袋很笨,分不出析逻辑关系,常常CR错误率超过50%”,而不能通过说“实际上我读不懂题目,我CR错误率超过50%”来削弱原结论。 因为原结论是建立在if条件成立的基础上来推论的,所以后一种其实并没有怀疑原结论。


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5#
发表于 2005-6-25 18:47:00 | 只看该作者

不好意思,说错了,其实应该是:结论中如果带条件句的话,削弱为:IF出现THEN不出现(或)IF条件推不出THEN(或)IF条件不出现 / 出现相反的情况



6#
发表于 2005-6-26 00:10:00 | 只看该作者
不一定,如果结论是由一个假设推出的,那么就可以通过WEAKEN这个假设来WEAKEN结论,但是如果文中是一个事实推出的结论,那么就只好想办法WEAKEN结论了.
7#
发表于 2005-6-26 10:05:00 | 只看该作者

削弱题只能反对结论,不能反对前提。


如果是因果型削弱,则削弱方式可能是有因无果或无因有果或他因,但是这里这个“因”并不是前提,而是结论的一部分,结论说的就是:因导致了果。


如果是条件型结论的削弱,不可以反对条件,只能从“充分条件存在,必要条件不存在”这个角度去反对。

8#
发表于 2005-6-26 13:51:00 | 只看该作者

不好意思,请问THEN作何解?


to kinci: IF是充分条件,THEN是必要条件的意思。



一、如果结论中出现"IF THEN"的话,可以用“IF条件不出现 / 出现相反的情况”来反驳的例题(请见OG解释):


OG14. Opponents of laws that require automobile drivers and passengers to wear seat belts argue that in a free society people have the right to take risks as long as the people do not harm other as a result of taking the risks. As a result, they conclude that it should be each person’s decision whether or not to wear a seat belt. —>结论:只要不伤害他人就有权选择不系安全带, 削:IF出现相反情况(不系安全带伤害了他人)



Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the conclusion drawn above?


A. Many new cars are built with seat belts that automatically fasten when someone sits in the front seat. —>虽然法律在某些情况下不应用(客观状况),并没有回答法律是否合理的问题


B. Automobile insurance rates for all automobile owners are higher because of the need to pay for the increased injuries or deaths of people not wearing seat belts. —>IF出现相反情况


C. Passengers in airplanes are required to wear seat belts during takeoffs and landings. —>给出与汽车相似的例子,但其单独例子(没有与汽车案联系)对于结论中的汽车法律的合理性无影响


D. The rate of automobile fatalities in states that do not have mandatory seat belt laws is greater than the rate of fatalities in states that do have such laws. —>承认个人不系安全带所犯风险,与文章的隐含让步(人们有权选择危险)一致,无法削弱


E. In automobile accidents, a greater number of passengers who do not wear seat belts are injured than are passengers who do wear seat belts. —>同D



The principle that people are entitled to risk injury provided they do not thereby harm others fails to justify the individual’s right to decide not to wear seat belts if it can be shown, as B shows, that that decision does harm others. Therefore, B is the best answer.



OG109. Recently a court ruled that current law allows companies to reject a job applicant if working in the job would entail a 90 percent chance that the applicant would suffer a heart attack. The presiding judge justified the ruling, saying that it protected both employees and employers. 削:IF发生不了



The use of this court ruling as part of the law could not be effective in regulating employment practices if which of the following were true?


(A) The best interests of employers often conflict with the interests of employees. —>说的不是ruling本身有问题而不能实现(只是有时justification for ruling会unavailable)


(B) No legally accepted methods exist for calculating the risk of a job applicant’s having a heart attack as a result of being employed in any particular occupation. —>if发生不了的时候


(C) Some jobs might involve health risks other than the risk of heart attack. —>可能将来会有类似的其它ruling,但与此ruling是否有效无关


(D) Employees who have a 90 percent chance of suffering a heart attack may be unaware that their risk is so great. —>说的是applicant不是已有的雇员 B


(E) The number of people applying for jobs at a company might decline if the company, by screening applicants for risk of heart attack, seemed to suggest that the job entailed high risk of heart attack. —>只说明ruling对劳工市场可能有的非直接影响,但与ruling本身有无效果无关




The ruling would be ineffective in regulating employment practices if it could never be used to justify rejecting some application. According to choice B the ruling cannot be applied in a legally acceptable way. Thus choice B is the best answer.




二、OG中也有直接削前提的例子:



96.The difficulty with the proposed high-speed train line is that a used plane can be bought for one-third the price of the train line, and the plane, which is just as fast, can fly anywhere. The train would be a fixed linear system, and we live in a world that is spreading out in all directions and in which consumers choose the free-wheel systems (cars, buses, aircraft), which do not have fixed routes. Thus a sufficient market for the train will not exist. —>前提:因为飞机要比火车方便,结论:所以火车没市场;削:飞机不比火车更方便



Which of the following, if true, most severely weakens the argument presented above?


(A) Cars, buses, and planes require the efforts of drivers and pilots to guide them, whereas the train will be guided mechanically. —>此因素不会立即影响顾客的选择


(B) Cars and buses are not nearly as fast as the high-speed train will be. —>比的是飞机


(C) Planes are not a free-wheel system because they can fly only between airports, which are less convenient for consumers than the high-speed train’s stations would be. —>削前提:飞机不比火车更方便


(D) The high-speed train line cannot use currently underutilized train stations in large cities. —>加强 C


(E) For long trips, most people prefer to fly rather than to take ground-level transportation. —>加强



The author argues that planes, since they are a free-wheel system, will be preferred to the high-speed train. Choice C weakens the argument by pointing out that planes are not a free-wheel system and are less convenient than the high-speed train would be. Thus C is the best answer.




170. The proposal to hire ten new police officers in Middletown is quite foolish. There is sufficient funding to pay the salaries of the new officers, but not the salaries of additional court and prison employees to process the increased caseload of arrests and convictions that new officers usually generate. --前提:加警力会增加成本开支,结论:不应该增加警力;削:加警力会阻目犯罪从而减少成本开支



Which of the following, if true, will most seriously weaken the conclusion drawn above?


(A) Studies have shown that an increase in a city’s police force does not necessarily reduce crime. —>研究理论加强


(B) When one major city increased its police force by 19 percent last year, there were 40 percent more arrests and 13 percent more convictions. —>别的城市例子证明确实会提高成本,加强


(C) If funding for the new police officers’ salaries is approved, support for other city services will have to be reduced during the next fiscal year. —>资金困难,加强


(D) In most United States cities, not all arrests result in convictions, and not all convictions result in prison terms. —>无关,仅仅说明了三者间明显的关系


(E) Middletown’s ratio of police officers to citizens has reached a level at which an increase in the number of officers will have a deterrent effect on crime. —>M城增加警力就能阻止犯罪,从而可能阻止更多的费用产生




The passage says that hiring new officers usually brings new court expenses, but according to choice E hiring new officers in Middletown will lead to a reduction in crime and thus, perhaps, a reduction in court and prison expenses. Therefore, choice E weakens the conclusion drawn and is the best answer.




9#
发表于 2005-6-26 16:57:00 | 只看该作者
哦,我明白Ring JJ的意思了,不过我和你对题目的分类有小小的不同,我把你说的14 96 109 170都划为“原因推结论”的题形,对这种题形的虚弱方式我觉得有三种:1.原因本身是错的(包括原因无法实行);2.原因本身推不出结果(有因无果的一种,一般是断开原因与结果之间的必要条件,即断桥梁)3.有其他因素使原因推不出结果(另一种有因无果,即它因削弱)

JJ说的14,96,109,170都是在说原因是错的,也就是其实没有这样的原因(包括原因无法实行),我都把他们划在第一种了;


而我说的削弱方式的第二种可以参考OG18,第三种可以参考OG68


总的来说因果结果的文章进行削弱都是说有其他原因,我说的第一种和第二种都是在暗示有其他原因,但没具体说是什么其他原因,而第三种就是直接把其他原因说了出来


在这一个帖子http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=24&id=117186的5楼我也讨论过


能力有限,欢迎大家多多批评指正

10#
发表于 2005-6-26 18:02:00 | 只看该作者

哦,我明白Ring JJ的意思了,不过我和你对题目的分类有小小的不同,我把你说的14 96 109 170都划为“原因推结论”的题形,对这种题形的虚弱方式我觉得有三种:1.原因本身是错的(包括原因无法实行);2.原因本身推不出结果(有因无果的一种,一般是断开原因与结果之间的必要条件,即断桥梁)3.有其他因素使原因推不出结果(另一种有因无果,即它因削弱)


这种划分我觉得是可行的,因为每个人习惯不同,用熟自已的方式,能解题就是好的!


另外,天空XD,“原因推结论”(其实就是“前提结论型”)这种说法可能比较容易与“因果型”论证搞混哦,呵呵。个人意见。


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