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Columbia Essay 2: practice taught you more than theory. 大家能聊聊思路么

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发表于 2009-11-29 23:14:52 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
有ideas, 可是觉得不能突出从中学到了什么。我作销售管理,有sales planning, 有dealer management, 有process design, 按理应该有很多实践>理论的例子,可是就stuck在这里了,大家帮忙把我一锤子敲醒吧~
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沙发
 楼主| 发表于 2009-11-29 23:36:22 | 只看该作者
举个例子。刚完成了一个帮助partner重返中国市场的project(sales strategy). 之前同样主题的几个项目都失败了,因为他们的方法太strategic, 是从上往下的total market->accessible market->market share

所以这次我做的项目用了bottom-up的方法,先tackle低端的问题,发现此partner产品本身就不具竞争力,且没有拿到中国的ccc,就算total market再大,他们也无缘中国市场。

最后结论是practical model比theoretical model管用,但这个好像和论文问的practical experiences taught you more than theory alone不太契合吧
板凳
发表于 2009-11-30 09:33:42 | 只看该作者
顶! 这道题目同头痛...

另外我有个问题, 哥大的官网感觉信息量不是很大(不知道是我搜索有问题还是怎么). 找不到像wharton的S2S forum之类的,或者chicago的adcom blog之类的解答疑问的地方.

看到很多其他的网站写theory 可以不局限于书本上的知识,即使是听到别人说的一个concept也可以作为这里的'theory', 但是没有看到columbia的adcom的人的权威解释. 所以还是觉得这个theory难把握.
地板
发表于 2009-11-30 12:11:33 | 只看该作者
theory 不仅指理论,还包括常规做法和由来已久的观点。
practice指 实践带来的经验。

文章就是写creative的故事,自己修正了常规做法,或者自己通过不同寻常的方式纠正了传统看法。
最终还是一个 beyond expectation/creative thinking/solve complex problem的经典故事。
但是在文中要涉及 theory和practice的对比内容。

我的essay是这么写的,
有一个难题由来已久,很多人认为这是系统的问题,个体很难有所作为,但是我通过独辟蹊径的思考,采用了创造性的方法解决了这个问题。最终获得了出色的成绩和好评, 通过practice和theory的对比,知道不能只遵从theory,还要因地制宜,develop theory to fit the current situation.  

因为拿到了interview, 姑且认为adcom还是buy in了我对的这篇essay的理解。
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发表于 2009-11-30 13:13:43 | 只看该作者
非常感谢YiFan2010的分享. hoho, 祝你早日那到offer.

回头去看看分析. 对theory的定义既然可以不局限于书本的知识,那我可以放心的写我那个题材了.

theory 不仅指理论,还包括常规做法和由来已久的观点。
practice指 实践带来的经验。

文章就是写creative的故事,自己修正了常规做法,或者自己通过不同寻常的方式纠正了传统看法。
最终还是一个 beyond expectation/creative thinking/solve complex problem的经典故事。
但是在文中要涉及 theory和practice的对比内容。

我的essay是这么写的,
有一个难题由来已久,很多人认为这是系统的问题,个体很难有所作为,但是我通过独辟蹊径的思考,采用了创造性的方法解决了这个问题。最终获得了出色的成绩和好评, 通过practice和theory的对比,知道不能只遵从theory,还要因地制宜,develop theory to fit the current situation.  

因为拿到了interview, 姑且认为adcom还是buy in了我对的这篇essay的理解。
-- by 会员 Yifan2010 (2009/11/30 12:11:33)
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-11-30 18:13:46 | 只看该作者
theory 不仅指理论,还包括常规做法和由来已久的观点。
practice指 实践带来的经验。

文章就是写creative的故事,自己修正了常规做法,或者自己通过不同寻常的方式纠正了传统看法。
最终还是一个 beyond expectation/creative thinking/solve complex problem的经典故事。
但是在文中要涉及 theory和practice的对比内容。

我的essay是这么写的,
有一个难题由来已久,很多人认为这是系统的问题,个体很难有所作为,但是我通过独辟蹊径的思考,采用了创造性的方法解决了这个问题。最终获得了出色的成绩和好评, 通过practice和theory的对比,知道不能只遵从theory,还要因地制宜,develop theory to fit the current situation.  

因为拿到了interview, 姑且认为adcom还是buy in了我对的这篇essay的理解。
-- by 会员 Yifan2010 (2009/11/30 12:11:33)



谢谢Yifan无私分享。豁然开朗
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发表于 2009-12-1 11:30:15 | 只看该作者
好棒阿!
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发表于 2009-12-7 03:32:19 | 只看该作者
Without practice, you will never know which theory is appropriate. Without theory, you will not be able to learn from the mistakes and successes of others, and practice will be wasteful and never-ending.

The two sentences above, of course, are also a theory of how to approach theory and practice. So if you apply what I've just said to the statements themselves, you end up needing to 'practice' the theory of the statements, as well as theorising on how to 'practice' the statements.

It's complex, but that's the whole point: it's a very complicated world. There's never one "right" answer. How have you tried to find your own answer, or perhaps more accurately, do you know how your answer has found you? Do you know how that answer has changed over time as it is shaped according to the environment (as a previous poster has noted), but also, (and people often forget this) according to your own biases and experiences?

How our answers are shaped by our own biases and experiences:

For instance, why are there so many disagreements in the world? Israel and Palestine continues their long, long battle. Do they in fact understand how each of their own views are shaped by not just what is truly happening in the world, but how their biases and experiences are causing them to each view the same exact event in different ways? Closer to China, there is the Tibet issue, Xinjiang issue, Taiwan issue. Why do smart, respected, influential and reasonable Chinese people get angry and disagree with equally smart, respected, influential and reasonable Americans and French people over these issues? The temptation is always to blame it on the environment- (they don't see this.. they don't see that...) rather than examining one's own biases (and this is true for everyone, for basically all issues) and acknowledging that there might be a different (also correct) way of looking at things, because different people have different assumptions and experiences to inform your decisions.

That is why none of these issues seem to have 'right' answers. Or, put another way, depending on who you ask, everyone has a different 'right' answer, and seldom do people say, 'but I think they are right too' (because this means admitting that you are wrong). When we talk about needing to adapt both theory and practice at all times, it is easy to apply that to the current situation, but not easy to apply it to yourself. And that kind of humility, of willingness to admit mistakes, and of keenness to accept the diverse opinions of ours, might be one of the most valuable skills that you can train.

Finally, this is all very abstract, so I will illustrate with Yifan's example. First I had considered what's wrong with the old approach to come up with a new idea. But after I had come up with my new idea, I would have immediately turned around and asked.. what's wrong with this? Why might everyone else think something else, and why might they be right and myself wrong? Only when I later convince myself that they are right and I am wrong, and that I should follow their idea, will I then take a step back and now, with both their and my ideas in my head, and understanding why both may be right and why both may be wrong, then make a decision that integrates the viewpoints of everyone, and also makes it easier for me to 'sell' this new integrative idea to my team.
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发表于 2009-12-7 04:33:22 | 只看该作者
Without practice, you will never know which theory is appropriate. Without theory, you will not be able to learn from the mistakes and successes of others, and practice will be wasteful and never-ending.

The two sentences above, of course, are also a theory of how to approach theory and practice. So if you apply what I've just said to the statements themselves, you end up needing to 'practice' the theory of the statements, as well as theorising on how to 'practice' the statements.

It's complex, but that's the whole point: it's a very complicated world. There's never one "right" answer. How have you tried to find your own answer, or perhaps more accurately, do you know how your answer has found you? Do you know how that answer has changed over time as it is shaped according to the environment (as a previous poster has noted), but also, (and people often forget this) according to your own biases and experiences?

How our answers are shaped by our own biases and experiences:

For instance, why are there so many disagreements in the world? Israel and Palestine continues their long, long battle. Do they in fact understand how each of their own views are shaped by not just what is truly happening in the world, but how their biases and experiences are causing them to each view the same exact event in different ways? Closer to China, there is the Tibet issue, Xinjiang issue, Taiwan issue. Why do smart, respected, influential and reasonable Chinese people get angry and disagree with equally smart, respected, influential and reasonable Americans and French people over these issues? The temptation is always to blame it on the environment- (they don't see this.. they don't see that...) rather than examining one's own biases (and this is true for everyone, for basically all issues) and acknowledging that there might be a different (also correct) way of looking at things, because different people have different assumptions and experiences to inform your decisions.

That is why none of these issues seem to have 'right' answers. Or, put another way, depending on who you ask, everyone has a different 'right' answer, and seldom do people say, 'but I think they are right too' (because this means admitting that you are wrong). When we talk about needing to adapt both theory and practice at all times, it is easy to apply that to the current situation, but not easy to apply it to yourself. And that kind of humility, of willingness to admit mistakes, and of keenness to accept the diverse opinions of ours, might be one of the most valuable skills that you can train.

Finally, this is all very abstract, so I will illustrate with Yifan's example. First I had considered what's wrong with the old approach to come up with a new idea. But after I had come up with my new idea, I would have immediately turned around and asked.. what's wrong with this? Why might everyone else think something else, and why might they be right and myself wrong? Only when I later convince myself that they are right and I am wrong, and that I should follow their idea, will I then take a step back and now, with both their and my ideas in my head, and understanding why both may be right and why both may be wrong, then make a decision that integrates the viewpoints of everyone, and also makes it easier for me to 'sell' this new integrative idea to my team.
-- by 会员 jelt2359 (2009/12/7 3:32:19)


谢谢分享!
你说的是“正-反-合”的模式, 是比较robust的framework。但考虑到文章只有500字,恐怕详述一个正反合的例子不是那么容易。
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发表于 2009-12-7 04:51:50 | 只看该作者
Absolutely right, which is why a good essay will balance telling what you did (the practice) and why you did it (the theory).

And also absolutely right, which is why not everyone gets an interview or gets into CBS. It's so much easier to say, 'his GMAT of 770 is better than mine, which is 700', but not so easy to say, 'his essays were better than mine'. In my opinion the essays are so much more important, and so much harder to get right, and I'm not sure how many people on CD realise this. Even Yifan, who got an interview, has a different view from myself, who has never applied. Most people turn to alumni (for instance Yifan, in three years) for help with essays, and they tell you how they would have written an essay. So everyone follows Yifan's framework, which is very good too, and easier to understand to boot, and I become the only one using this 正-反-合 framework. Maybe because of that I get in, and not everyone else. Again, following the past successes of everyone else, is exactly what ensures that you end up failing to get in.

But really, after a while it becomes so ridiculously complicated trying to follow what others do, or what you think others will do, or what you think others will think you will do... and so on. Again, it's a complex world. I tend to prefer to write an essay based on my own views. So 正-反-合 it is.
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