OG12 CR89 题目结构的问题，究竟谁是conclusion？（已解决）

EMMALIULIU · 发表于 2012-11-12 10:08:04

Since it has become known that several of a bank’s top executives have been buying shares in their own bank, the bank’s depositors, who had been worried by rumors that the bank faced impending financial collapse, have been greatly relieved. They reason that since top executives evidently have faith in the bank’s financial soundness, those worrisome rumors must be false. They might well be overoptimistic, however since corporate executives have sometimes bought shares in their own company in a calculated attempt to dispel negative rumors about the company’s health.
In the argument given, the two boldfaced portions play which of the following roles?

(A) The first describes evidence that has been taken as supporting a conclusion; the second gives a reason for questioning that support.
(B) The first describes evidence that has been taken as supporting a conclusion; the second states a contrary conclusion that is the main conclusion of the argument.
(C) The first provides evidence in support of the main conclusion of the argument; the second states that conclusion.
(D) The fi rst describes the circumstance that the argument as a whole seeks to explain; the second gives the
explanation that the argument seeks to establish.
(E) The fi rst describes the circumstance that the argument as a whole seeks to explain; the second provides evidence in support of the explanation that the argument seeks to establish.

看了所有有关这道题的帖子，看来究竟谁是conclusion好像纠结的人还挺多。我看到有个帖子里面有人对于这题的结构有两种理解：
理解一：
文章先讲了一个事实several of a bank's top executives have been buying shares in their own bank,推理出结论：overoptimistic,第二黑体解释了结论
理解二：
文章先讲了一个事实several of a bank's top executives have been buying shares in their own bank,得出结论：银行经济状况好，随后作者质疑这种结论，认为过分乐观，第二划线部门解释了质疑理由

照CD解释，应该是理解二正确。但是，OG CR题目怎么有这种结构呢？CR的题目conclusion的定义是作者的观点，那么此题作者的观点是认为过于乐观。但是照“理解二”，作者的观点变成counterpoint了。。。
希望到家一起讨论下，把这道题的这个难点给彻底结束掉！

EMMALIULIU · 发表于 2012-11-12 10:34:24

刚盯着A看，灵光一先，突然如下想法出现了：
A说第一个BF “has been taken as supporting a conclusion”，是被用来支持“结论”，那到底对不对呢？就出现了第二个BF去质疑这个支持。就是说最终结论是作者认为的overoptimistic，本来想用第一个BF去支持“结论”的想法是错的。

其实“理解一”才是正确的。这个argument的conclusion是overoptimistic那句话。

确实蛮trick的一道题。以后记住这种题型。

EMMALIULIU · 发表于 2012-11-12 10:44:01

而且应该知道BF1和BF2是对立的，选择BF的role的时候，要选择把他们描述成敌对的选项。D把俩BF描述成一伙的，就错了。

EMMALIULIU · 发表于 2012-11-12 10:47:47

我觉得这个argument有个虚的conclusion，即“since top executives evidently have faith in the bank’s financial soundness, those worrisome rumors must be false. ”
这个conclusion就像个靶子，等着最终的conclusion去反击。

EMMALIULIU · 发表于 2012-11-12 13:06:55

都木有一起来讨论下的嘛~~~

MiaZhang · 发表于 2012-11-12 13:23:27

Since it has become known that several of a bank’s top executives have been buying shares in their own bank, the bank’s depositors, who had been worried by rumors that the bank faced impending financial collapse, have been greatly relieved. They reason that since top executives evidently have faith in the bank’s financial soundness, those worrisome rumors must be false. They might well be overoptimistic, however since corporate executives have sometimes bought shares in their own company in a calculated attempt to dispel negative rumors about the company’s health.
In the argument given, the two boldfaced portions play which of the following roles?

(A) The first describes evidence that has been taken as supporting a conclusion; the second gives a reason for questioning that support.
(B) The first describes evidence that has been taken as supporting a conclusion; the second states a contrary conclusion that is the main conclusion of the argument.
(C) The first provides evidence in support of the main conclusion of the argument; the second states that conclusion.
(D) The fi rst describes the circumstance that the argument as a whole seeks to explain; the second gives the
explanation that the argument seeks to establish.
(E) The fi rst describes the circumstance that the argument as a whole seeks to explain; the second provides evidence in support of the explanation that the argument seeks to establish.

看了所有有关这道题的帖子，看来究竟谁是conclusion好像纠结的人还挺多。我看到有个帖子里面有人对于这题的结构有两种理解：
理解一：
文章先讲了一个事实several of a bank's top executives have been buying shares in their own bank,推理出结论：overoptimistic,第二黑体解释了结论
理解二：
文章先讲了一个事实several of a bank's top executives have been buying shares in their own bank,得出结论：银行经济状况好，随后作者质疑这种结论，认为过分乐观，第二划线部门解释了质疑理由

照CD解释，应该是理解二正确。但是，OG CR题目怎么有这种结构呢？CR的题目conclusion的定义是作者的观点，那么此题作者的观点是认为过于乐观。但是照“理解二”，作者的观点变成counterpoint了。。。
希望到家一起讨论下，把这道题的这个难点给彻底结束掉！

-- by 会员 EMMALIULIU (2012/11/12 10:08:04)

这道题我一开始也做错了。。。
不过LZ对文章的C不应该有疑问的
文章说：很多bank executives买自己银行的share，所以有个rumor就不攻自破了。然而，这样想的人都过于乐观，因为balabalabala...
LZ注意文章中有一个However，这是句间转折词，表示无论前面说了是什么，however后面才是作者的观点，而且肯定是跟前面不一样的观点。
however转折后的结论才是文章的结论，前面的部分知识为作者反驳描述背景，或通过对前面的反驳使得作者的conclusion更具有说服了。

所以结论应该是 They might well be overoptimistic，后面的BF是支持这个结论的
而第一个BF则是用来支持文章所反驳的结论

EMMALIULIU · 发表于 2012-11-12 14:00:43

Since it has become known that several of a bank’s top executives have been buying shares in their own bank, the bank’s depositors, who had been worried by rumors that the bank faced impending financial collapse, have been greatly relieved. They reason that since top executives evidently have faith in the bank’s financial soundness, those worrisome rumors must be false. They might well be overoptimistic, however since corporate executives have sometimes bought shares in their own company in a calculated attempt to dispel negative rumors about the company’s health.
In the argument given, the two boldfaced portions play which of the following roles?

(A) The first describes evidence that has been taken as supporting a conclusion; the second gives a reason for questioning that support.
(B) The first describes evidence that has been taken as supporting a conclusion; the second states a contrary conclusion that is the main conclusion of the argument.
(C) The first provides evidence in support of the main conclusion of the argument; the second states that conclusion.
(D) The fi rst describes the circumstance that the argument as a whole seeks to explain; the second gives the
explanation that the argument seeks to establish.
(E) The fi rst describes the circumstance that the argument as a whole seeks to explain; the second provides evidence in support of the explanation that the argument seeks to establish.

看了所有有关这道题的帖子，看来究竟谁是conclusion好像纠结的人还挺多。我看到有个帖子里面有人对于这题的结构有两种理解：
理解一：
文章先讲了一个事实several of a bank's top executives have been buying shares in their own bank,推理出结论：overoptimistic,第二黑体解释了结论
理解二：
文章先讲了一个事实several of a bank's top executives have been buying shares in their own bank,得出结论：银行经济状况好，随后作者质疑这种结论，认为过分乐观，第二划线部门解释了质疑理由

照CD解释，应该是理解二正确。但是，OG CR题目怎么有这种结构呢？CR的题目conclusion的定义是作者的观点，那么此题作者的观点是认为过于乐观。但是照“理解二”，作者的观点变成counterpoint了。。。
希望到家一起讨论下，把这道题的这个难点给彻底结束掉！

-- by 会员 EMMALIULIU (2012/11/12 10:08:04)

这道题我一开始也做错了。。。
不过LZ对文章的C不应该有疑问的
文章说：很多bank executives买自己银行的share，所以有个rumor就不攻自破了。然而，这样想的人都过于乐观，因为balabalabala...
LZ注意文章中有一个However，这是句间转折词，表示无论前面说了是什么，however后面才是作者的观点，而且肯定是跟前面不一样的观点。
however转折后的结论才是文章的结论，前面的部分知识为作者反驳描述背景，或通过对前面的反驳使得作者的conclusion更具有说服了。

所以结论应该是 They might well be overoptimistic，后面的BF是支持这个结论的
而第一个BF则是用来支持文章所反驳的结论

-- by 会员 MiaZhang (2012/11/12 13:23:27)

恩恩，其实就是对你说的“用来支持文章所反驳的结论”想不开，貌似这样的话，文章里面就出现了"fake conclusion"，这种题型我是第一次看到。

EMMALIULIU · 发表于 2012-11-12 23:23:27

做完最后一个BF题目，第124题，恰好也是这种结构，有个fake conclusion的，现在彻底明白了。
不懂的可以把89和124两题结合起来。其实我觉得124题目结构更有助理解。

ainiAnnie · 发表于 2012-11-30 02:10:22

做完最后一个BF题目，第124题，恰好也是这种结构，有个fake conclusion的，现在彻底明白了。
不懂的可以把89和124两题结合起来。其实我觉得124题目结构更有助理解。

-- by 会员 EMMALIULIU (2012/11/12 23:23:27)

我认为这是一个结构十分清晰的argument，并不存在任何的争议：
Since it has become known that several of a bank’s top executives have been buying shares in their own bank, the bank’s depositors, who had been worried by rumors that the bank faced impending financial collapse, have been greatly relieved. （前面的内容可以理解为表述一个现象，并不是非常重要，类似背景信息）They reason that since top executives evidently have faith in the bank’s financial soundness, those worrisome rumors must be false. （这里出现了第一个逻辑链：高层（购股行为）有信心→谣言是假的）They might well be overoptimistic, however（转折之后提出作者自己的观点也就是红字处） since （给出理由）corporate executives have sometimes bought shares in their own company in a calculated attempt to dispel negative rumors about the company’s health.
这个argument的确出现了两个逻辑链相应出现了两个结论。可是作者的结论只有一个也就是我们所需要关注的。而谣言是假的的那个结论是作者想要推翻的。
希望有帮助。

wellsli · 发表于 2013-8-25 17:27:30

ainiAnnie 发表于 2012-11-30 02:10
做完最后一个BF题目，第124题，恰好也是这种结构，有个fake conclusion的，现在彻底明白了。不懂的可以 ...

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