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[录取汇报] 求助选校-Cornell vs Yale vs Duke for asset management or consulting

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 楼主| 发表于 2014-4-15 21:59:11 | 只看该作者
vincent_ts 发表于 2014-4-15 21:32
Again I don't want to be judgmental and then mislead you. This is just my personal "impression" an ...

I completely agree with you point and thought that myself as well. I have seen a number of debates on Yale SOM. mixed view, but given the unversity status, they defnitely have a huge upside potential. Plus the new building totally sold to me!

When I mentioned 1-day trip to Yale, i didn't mean that I didn't like yale, quite opposite, because I love the school I wanted to find more evidence that Yale is the best one amongst these three overall. Givnen that I haven't 100% decided on my career path, I want to choose a balanced school which can also hav a life-time impact on me. Yale sounds more and more like the one to be choosen.

Will read a bit more here and there, and make my decision based on everything.

Thanks Vincent - very thorough =)
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发表于 2014-4-16 00:10:38 | 只看该作者
为Yale投感情票
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-4-16 00:52:59 | 只看该作者
lichen518 发表于 2014-4-16 00:10
为Yale投感情票

what do you mean?
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发表于 2014-4-16 01:01:30 | 只看该作者
yuyeerlli 发表于 2014-4-16 00:52
what do you mean?

Can I msg U?
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发表于 2014-4-16 01:14:57 | 只看该作者
After 2 years at B-school, my personal advice now to cross-admitted applicants from mainland China is to pick the school with great parent university. In this sense, I want to say a big congratulation to you as all three schools fall in this pool. Let alone they all have collaborative student bodies, which is one critical criterion for me to choose a school. Of course, if your aim is more about securing a consulting/banking job, then you can absolutely ignore what I am saying and look more or merely at the traditional matrix such as job placement data, major hiring firms, or ranking etc, though eventually it is YOU other than the school that gets you there.

If you want to do consulting, probably Duke has some slight edges because of its strengths in general management and marketing. If you want to do IM, then Johnson might stand out as it seems to have a stronger alum presence in Finance in US. However, all these are just based on the general impression as my interest is nor the above and know little about these.

As a Yale SOM alum, what Yale impressed me is its connecting power, maybe only second to Harvard, across all different sectors and a lifelong community that goes beyond SOM. I quite buy Vincent's points. People who went to Yale during my stay include John Kerry, Tony Blair, Paul Volcker, Aung San Suu Kyi, Kofi Annan, Bob Rubin, Jim Wolfensohn, Bob Zoellick, just to name a few, bunches of executives/CEOs of Chinese SOEs, banks, governors, ministers, as well as dozens of F500/Ibank CEOs that you can meet at other business schools. People I missed included Hank Paulson, John McCain and Dr. Kissinger. These experiences counted much to me as my major goals of MBA are experience, network and community. I am much appreciated to the perspectives and insights that I learned from these people. You might argue there's no difference from watching their speeches on YouTube. To some extent it is true, but when you have the opportunity to raise your own questions to these people, it's different. Imagine having lunch with Warren Buffet and asking him a question...

Actually I asked 6...

To land a full-time job mostly boils down to your own backgrounds and efforts. School alone would bring some differences, sometimes a lot, but I guess they are subtle in the event that they would go to all three schools to hire. In my graduating year, JP Morgan hired only one Chinese full-time employee and he is my classmate. Other major i-banks that gave full-time offer to SOMers originally from mainland China include CITI, HSBC and DB. This is fairly decent stat even as opposed to those strong financial schools like Wharton or Columbia.  For IM, I would argue Booth and Wharton are the best. But SOM does have some unique resources to leverage. For example, the chief investment officers of HYPM are all SOM alums and they all, except for Harvard Management's Jane Mendill(she and her daughter are bothYalies), used to work under David Sweden.They would all go to his class and bring the real-word cases to discussion.  I took that course, and when I graduated, one of my instructors, who was an director at Yale Investment Office, assumed CIO of UPenn. Of course, it's  always hard to secure internship in the investment offices of these ivy schools, but you can definitely start there. They are LPs of almost all leading buyside firms, either PE/VC or HF. For IM consulting, prior to my year, for two successive years, Cambridge Associate hired two mainlanders. If I remembered correctly, Cambridge Associate's CEO is also an SOMer.

Hope my two cents help. But my opinion can be very biased and misleading as my goal from MBA differs from yours. What I would suggest is 1) define your goals( you've already done that) 2) prioritize the criterion of choosing schools 3) do your own research( for example, finding out which school is the core school of your target firms) 4) discuss with alums and people who have same goals as you do and have been through /and decide.
All in all, knowing what matters to you and doing your own research, or DD, are far more essential than making enquirers on CD, as YOU yourself own your future 2-year life experience and a life-long community.  

Wish you the best of luck!



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 楼主| 发表于 2014-4-16 06:05:10 | 只看该作者
tianya111 发表于 2014-4-16 01:14
After 2 years at B-school, my personal advice now to cross-admitted applicants from mainland China i ...

Wow, thanks so much! You have just demonstrated how helpful a SOMer is.. I am doing some extensive research right now - asking millions of questions to both SOM consulting clubs and Asset Management Club. The answer I received were pretty convincing, at least on par with those I had from Johnson and Fuqua. I am pretty happy with it.

My goal is to land a dream job, but i also value the longevity of my life experience and network quality - from what you said Yale seems inspiring.  

I have gathered a lot of information from both current students and alumni from the schools as well as from a lot of people here. Thank you guys soooooo much!

Will keep you guys posted with my decision.
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发表于 2014-4-16 11:09:40 | 只看该作者
Buy side感觉更多要看原来work experience是不是金融的产品研究和交易类的,MBA只是一个助力;
所以如果目标是Buy Side金融应该去申请哥大、沃顿、芝加哥、哈佛。不知道Tepper里面的双修MSCF管不管用。。。。
去咨询建议Duke和Yale。
28#
发表于 2014-4-16 12:16:01 | 只看该作者
lixin1112001 发表于 2014-4-16 11:09
Buy side感觉更多要看原来work experience是不是金融的产品研究和交易类的,MBA只是一个助力;
所以如果目 ...

Consulting的话,Duke,Yale,和Cornell都足够拿到国内MBB的面试机会了,至于最后能不能拿到offer还是看自己的背景和面试情况,和哪个学校关系没那么大了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-4-16 21:12:47 | 只看该作者
lixin1112001 发表于 2014-4-16 11:09
Buy side感觉更多要看原来work experience是不是金融的产品研究和交易类的,MBA只是一个助力;
所以如果目 ...

ahh thanks thanks =)
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发表于 2014-4-17 12:30:19 | 只看该作者
tianya111 发表于 2014-4-16 01:14
After 2 years at B-school, my personal advice now to cross-admitted applicants from mainland China i ...

天涯哥毕业后去哪了呀~
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