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三个with+n+that在prep和gwd中不同的选择,求高人指点!

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发表于 2013-10-16 23:48:02 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
题目总结来源于http://forum.chasedream.com/thread-697796-2-1.html中wangjieava23 ,可惜一直没人解答。


PREP笔记有这么一个知识点:
独立主格并不包括“with + n. + 定语从句”和“n. + 定语从句”的形式,这个形式做的是非限定性修饰前面名词的定语,因为这个形式就相当于n, with + n.,或者是n., n. + that概括性同位语。

问题是从这道题目的解释开始的。。
191. (GWD-10-Q24)
For the last five years the Dutch economy has grown faster than Britain,France, or Germany, with the unemployment rate having remained well below that of the other threecountries.
A.Britain, France,or Germany,with the unemployment rate having remained
B.havethose of Britain, France, or Germany, and the unemployment rateremaining
C.have Britain,France, and Germany, andthe unemployment rate has remained
D.the economy of Britain,France, and Germany, with the unemployment rate that has remained (E)
E.theeconomies of Britain, France, and Germany, and the unemployment rate has remained
答案是E

Aeoluseros NN对D的看法:首先D最大的错误仅进在于后面with引导的伴随状语的逻辑主语Dutcheconomy错误
她的理解是此处的逻辑主语应该是Dutch而不是Dutch economy

with的弹跳力很好,这里已经是在修饰前句主语了?不是修饰germany么?(虽然还是错)

第二个问题:with+n+that这种非独立主格结构也需要有逻辑主语?也是主句主语?

193. (T-3-Q2)

As the honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed,staying where it is inserted, this results in the act of stinging causing the bee to sustain a fatal injury.
A.As the honeybee’s stinger is heavily barbed, staying where it is inserted, thisresults in the act of stinging causing
B.As the heavily barbed stinger of the honeybee stays where it is inserted, with theresult that the act of stinging causes
C.Thehoneybee’s stinger, heavily barbed and staying where it is inserted, results inthe fact that the act of stinging causes
D.The heavily barbed stinger of the honeybee stayswhere it is inserted, and results in the act of stinging causing      
E.Thehoneybee’s stinger is heavily barbed and stays where it is inserted, with the result that the act of stinging causes
答案是E,此处也是with+n+that的非独立主格结构

为什么修饰前个句子?

第三个问题来了,那么这里的逻辑主语是谁呢?难道是honeybee’s stinger吗?不是与上一题的解释矛盾了吗?

T-3-Q19.

A Swiss government panel recommended that the country sell about half of its gold reserves and this raised fears of othercountries that do the same and inundate the market.




A.reserves and this raised fears of othercountries that






B.reserves, which, as a result, raised fearsof other countries that






C.reserves, as a result, they feared thatother countries would
D.reserves, with fears raised that other countries would
E.reserves, raising fears that other countries would






此题答案选E,我选了D——是因为上一题留给我的印象使然。虽然我知道E选项里raising...可以做伴随状语表结果,但是我认为这里would是必要的,因为other counties do the same and inundate the market是一种fear,是推测发生的事情

不知道D选项错在哪儿了?难道又是因为逻辑主语??
论坛上没有明确的答案啊,此处是with+N+ed+that是非独立主格么?

关于D,raised需要去掉么?
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沙发
 楼主| 发表于 2013-10-16 23:49:55 | 只看该作者
希望有大牛可以帮忙解答,prep可能因为是不同大牛分别整理的,思路或许不一致?
板凳
 楼主| 发表于 2013-10-17 00:21:18 | 只看该作者
看到guoqi在其他帖子中的发言,突然觉得不用纠结with+n+that结构了,以后按照这个标准做题大多都不会错了:

aeo 斑竹解释过这个问题 我看的不是很明白 斑竹大人倒是把这个问题揉到with的复合结构里面 大家看下

引用“ with短语做状语三个功能)(伴随原因、动作、状态是独立主格的基本功能,只是因为三种独立主格形式的不同具体应用起来也不同罢了):
1. 表示原因,此时不需要考虑逻辑主语,只是修饰前面整句
2. 表示伴随动作(非伴随结果),此时需要注意逻辑主语,且前面不能是完成时态(这样就不能伴随动作了).(with短语要表示伴随结果则需要用with the result of,如prep2-193).
3. 表示状态(此时前面需要是主系表),同样需要逻辑主语。
地板
发表于 2013-10-24 13:01:43 | 只看该作者
T-3-Q19.

A Swiss government panel recommended that the country sell about half of its gold reserves and this raised fears of othercountries that do the same and inundate the market.
A.reserves and this raised fears of othercountries that
B.reserves, which, as a result, raised fearsof other countries that
C.reserves, as a result, they feared thatother countries would
D.reserves, with fears raised that other countries would
E.reserves, raising fears that other countries would

D选项是说Panel fears,
但是逻辑上应该是(更多其他人的担心)比较起来应该E比D好一些。
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