大搜魂针系列之五； [比较than】

enkyklios

zxppx 发表于 2013-7-1 16:54
LZ, 原谅我这么久都没出现！我在CD上发现了一个帖子，关于比较的
http://forum.chasedream.com/thread-10 ...

我贴子中没有任何地主否认than作连词啊，
只是我举的那个例子是处于介词词条中的。
另外我还有一个贴子是关于than的，事实上than何止可以作连词呢，语法学家认为它和that一样可以作关系代词的

zxppx

enkyklios 发表于 2013-7-1 16:56
我贴子中没有任何地主否认than作连词啊，
只是我举的那个例子是处于介词词条中的。
另外我还有一个贴子是 ...

我看到的than作为连词的词条里面的用法：
1.anywhere else than at home
2.older than I am
3.easier said than done
1a —used as a function word to indicate the second member or the member taken as the point of departure in a comparison expressive of inequality ; used with comparative adjectives and comparative adverbs <older than I am> <easier said than done> b —used as a function word to indicate difference of kind, manner, or identity ; used especially with some adjectives and adverbs that express diversity <anywhere else than at home>
介词的用法：
why should a man be better than me
After 200 years of innocent if occasional use, the preposition than was called into question by 18th century grammarians. Some 200 years of elaborate reasoning have led to these present-day inconsistent conclusions: than whom is standard but clumsy <T. S. Eliot, than whom nobody could have been more insularly English — Anthony Burgess>; than me may be acceptable in speech <a man no mightier than thyself or me — Shakespeare> <why should a man be better than me because he's richer than me — William Faulkner, in a talk to students>; than followed by a third-person objective pronoun (her, him, them) is usually frowned upon. Surveyed opinion tends to agree with these conclusions. Our evidence shows that than is used as a conjunction more commonly than as a preposition, that than whom is chiefly limited to writing, and that me is more common after the preposition than the third-person objective pronouns. In short, you can use than either as a conjunction or as a preposition.
而你在隐藏的部分中写道：PREP(介词）      (用于形容词、副词的比较级之后，连接比较对象)比 You use than after a comparative adjective or adverb in order to link two parts of a comparison.
这和上面的连词的解释更加接近。

enkyklios

zxppx 发表于 2013-7-1 17:12
我看到的than作为连词的词条里面的用法：
1.anywhere else than at home
2.older than I am

zxppx兄；

那不是我写的啊！那是词典中写的。
你可是查的韦氏词典还是？注意你的例句和我的例句不一样啊，你的例句或者接的是句子或者接的是动词所以你的例句中是连词是对的啊。

我的两个例句均引自权威词典，一条引自牛津，一条引自柯林斯大词典。
而且我的例句和I eat apple faster than you 几乎完全相同，但是你引用的例句实质已经变了，而且我在贴子中说了“如果非要补上后边的谓语是可以的，但是这会改变than的词性”

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zxppx

enkyklios 发表于 2013-7-1 17:32
zxppx兄；

那不是我写的啊！那是词典中写的。

我现在比较纠结的是，其实感觉than的介词词性和like表示“比较”的时候一样，后面只能连接：代词和名词。而当than表示连词的时候，后面自然可以连接介词短语，但是问题是“当than表示连词的时候，后面能够接代词吗？”比如：I eat faster than you. 这个than可以是连词吗？

enkyklios

zxppx 发表于 2013-7-1 20:43
我现在比较纠结的是，其实感觉than的介词词性和like表示“比较”的时候一样，后面只能连接：代词和名词。 ...

对这是关键，在这里显然介词要好，但是能不能把它当成连词后边省略了一堆呢？可能也可以吧。

zxppx

enkyklios 发表于 2013-7-1 21:23
对这是关键，在这里显然介词要好，但是能不能把它当成连词后边省略了一堆呢？可能也可以吧。 ...

呵呵，就这样理解吧。当做连词应该不会错的

enkyklios

zxppx 发表于 2013-7-1 22:00
呵呵，就这样理解吧。当做连词应该不会错的

但是我发现词典对这个问题比较慎重，几乎所有词典在连词的解释里都不会用这样的例子

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