问一句很短的句子。

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enkyklios 发表于 2013-6-11 17:00
嗯，只是有一点我不太同意；so as to；根据我上边查到的一共是三种用法；1表目的，2表程度，3表结果。
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很佩服你追求完美的精神哈 嘻嘻 我有几个曼哈顿里固定的问题能帮忙看看吗？？？？ 太太太感谢了！！
连接再此：
http://forum.chasedream.com/foru ... read&tid=856539

apple1233

我看了一下大家的讨论又在网上查了下国外的论坛 找到了一些问题的例子

I can't understand the difference between them. For example (I apologise for not gving all the variants):

Congress is debating a bill requiring certain employers provide workers with unpaid leave so as to care for sick or newborn children.
The official answer is: to provide workers with unpaid leave so that they can

Several years ago the diet industry introduced a variety of appetite suppressants, but some of these drugs caused such severe stomach disorders as to be banned by the Food and Drug Administration.
The official answer is: such severe stomach disorders that they were

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Students in the metropolitan school district lack math skills to such a large degree as to make it difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming ever more dependent on information-based industries.
The official answer is: are so lacking in math skills that it will be difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming

The Emperor Augustus, it appears, commissioned an idealized sculptured portrait, the features of which are so unrealistic that they have constituted what one scholar calls an “artificial face”
The official answer is: so unrealistic as to constitute

Although one link in the chain was demonstrated to be weak, but not sufficiently so to require the recall of the automobile.
The official answer is: demonstrably weak, it was not so weak as to require

apple1233

我觉得楼主的这个问题提的真的很好 原来没有注意到so...that 和so ... as to 的用法 现在发现真的有挺多confusing的地方

Congress is debating a bill requiring certain employers provide workers with unpaid leave so as to care for sick or newborn children.
The official answer is: to provide workers with unpaid leave so that they can
这句话国外论坛的gmat"专家“ 解释如下

"so as to" modifies verbs; this sentence is ambiguous. On first read, it sounds like the desired result of debating is workers being able care for sick or newborn children. This meaning is incorrect--the desired result of debating is coming to agreement.
然后他说答案ok： This is okay because it's clear that the workers are going to take care of the children.

但我觉得这样解释并不合理 他的意思是用so as to 会让人误解 congress最后达成了一致 但是看题中原句我并没有看出来用so as to 有达成一致的意思
反而是gmac给出的正确答案 中的they 非常让人confused 句中的they gmac说是指代workers但是employers也是复数 很容易让人混淆 那个论坛中有人最后做出解释说代词只能指代之前最邻近的名次 所以也只能认为正确答案是有道理的了
总之这道题我还是不懂 大家有人明白能给我讲讲吗

Several years ago the diet industry introduced a variety of appetite suppressants, but some of these drugs caused such severe stomach disorders as to be banned by the Food and Drug Administration.
The official answer is: such severe stomach disorders that they were


这个例句中出现了such...as to be done 如果按照我从prep08语法笔记中总结的 此用法不对的话可以立刻排除 但是 如果有这个用法 那such...as to be done 和such.. that 的区别其实很小了

要注意的是such as to be done 比 such...that...少用到

以下是国外论坛里的语法老师的解释 大家可以参考下

First, you should know that such + noun + as to is much less common than so + adj/adv + as to.

Now, for the difference between these two. I think these are best illustrated with examples:

Xue Mei spoke in such a way as to calm us down.

The sales materials are presented in such a way as to encourage attendees to purchase the products on the spot.

These usages focus on doing an action and paying to that action while you are doing it so that the action creates a result. To simplify a bit, these usages answer the question, "Why did you do it in that way?"

So, the most common words to use with this pattern are way, manner, etc.

Compare these similar sentences:

Xue Mei spoke so that we would stop asking her questions.

The sales materials are presented at the end of the meetings so that the participants won't realize the meeting is actually a sales presentation.

The part that comes after so... that... answers the question WHY.



Of course, these two are often interchangeable, but if you really, really want to know the difference, this is it.

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Students in the metropolitan school district lack math skills to such a large degree as to make it difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming ever more dependent on information-based industries.
The official answer is: are so lacking in math skills that it will be difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming

这句话那个论坛里的老师没有作解释 我觉得原句such...as to 的语法应该没什么问题吧 但是句中it 指代不明而且整体比较啰嗦所以排除了 不知道我的理解对不对 正确答案结构比较清晰好理解

The Emperor Augustus, it appears, commissioned an idealized sculptured portrait, the features of which are so unrealistic that they have constituted what one scholar calls an “artificial face”
The official answer is: so unrealistic as to constitute

这句话我也不明白为什么so...that用的不对 they如果按照前面提过的道理指代最邻近名次的话应该没有指代不明的问题 是原句不如正确答案concise吗？


花了很多时间在这个问题上 但是真的很想弄明 我把我的理解和总结写在上面了 希望对大家有帮助 也想向大家请教一下我上面的问题

这是那个国外的论坛http://www.urch.com/forums/gmat-sentence-correction/2068-so-as-so-such.html

apple1233

不好意思 打了这么多 ：）） 大家花时间看一眼啦 看看你们懂不懂

enkyklios

apple1233 发表于 2013-6-12 02:21
不好意思 打了这么多 ：）） 大家花时间看一眼啦 看看你们懂不懂

楼主一下贴的题太多了

Congress is debating a bill requiring certain employers provide workers with unpaid leave so as to care for sick or newborn children. The official answer is: to provide workers with unpaid leave so that they can 我们说了so as to 表目的，表结果，表程度，这里 provide workers with…… so as to care for sick .显然是表目的，给他们提供假期是为了…… so as to 的主语本来应该是work现在成了employers。 如果你还是不明白，那么你可以把so as to 简化成to ；  以下是这样做的语法依据   We use 'to + verb' to say why we do something.    Examples: I'm going to Ireland to visit my family. We can also use 'in order to' or 'so as to'. S everal years ago the diet industry introduced a variety of appetite suppressants, but some of these drugs caused such severe stomach disorders as to be banned by the Food and Drug Administration. The official answer is: such severe stomach disorders that they were 没有这样such as to be done的用法

enkyklios

apple1233 发表于 2013-6-12 01:52
我看了一下大家的讨论又在网上查了下国外的论坛 找到了一些问题的例子

I can't understand the difference ...

Students in the metropolitan school district lack math skills to such a large degree as to make it difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming ever more dependent on information-based industries.
The official answer is: are so lacking in math skills that it will be difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming

them指代有问题。有指代skills的歧义。offical answer通过把skill放到介词短语里保护起来从而避免了错误指代
make it diffcult to……是正确的用法 ,以下例句来自美国韦氏词典
the number of esoteric entries and jargon unique to specific fields or small regions would generate so many results in electronic searches as to make it difficult to find commonly used or needed words


The Emperor Augustus, it appears, commissioned an idealized sculptured portrait, the features of which are so unrealistic that they have constituted what one scholar calls an “artificial face”
The official answer is: so unrealistic as to constitute

和so as to so that结构无关，时态问题。constitute 并没有结束 不用完成时


Although one link in the chain was demonstrated to be weak, but not sufficiently so to require the recall of the automobile.
The official answer is: demonstrably weak, it was not so weak as to require

这个最关键的错误although 和but绝不能同时用。not sufficiently so to 是正确的用法。以下这句话来源于词典
In England it has been decided that if the sash of a window be partly open, but not sufficiently so to admit a person……

呵呵尽量做到引用翔实；although,but在句子里不能同时用是因为这两个连词的功能不同，连接的句子也不同

enkyklios

apple1233 发表于 2013-6-12 02:21
不好意思 打了这么多 ：）） 大家花时间看一眼啦 看看你们懂不懂

我也不好意思了睡觉了，跟朋友喝多了……

分析的不对，大家拍砖。

enkyklios

apple1233 发表于 2013-6-12 02:21
不好意思 打了这么多 ：）） 大家花时间看一眼啦 看看你们懂不懂

按英语语法，although 为从属连词，用以引导让步状语从句，它表明整个句子为复合句；而 but 为从属连词，用以引导让步状语从句，它表明整个句子为复合句；而在表示"但是"时，它是并列连词，用以连接两个简单句使之成为并列句。

由于在同一句中既用了从属连词 although，又用了并列连词 but ，使得该句一半像复合句，一半像并列句，从而导致错误。

正确的做法是，任意去掉 although 和 but 中的一个，使之要么成为复合句，要么成为并列句

Kittycy01

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