在法国ESSEC奋斗的一些感悟 & GE项目答疑=更新中

Germer

bonbons 发表于 2015-10-29 03:00
要回国的

回国不建议继续，还是尽快面对现实比较好，留下的话可以读个经济学博士也有工资，时间长点。

cheesechan

bonbons 发表于 2015-10-28 07:16
楼主你好。我现在法国工科Ph.D在读，2017年毕业。本科修过金融二学位。考研在本专业与金融之间徘徊，最终还 ...

1. No one really care much about your financial background in quantitative finance. Mathematics & programming skill is the most important.

2. I guess you had not provided enogh information about your own background. Which school in France you are doing your PhD? Which field in engineering?
If your current major is a related one, and the school is good enough, you can go to find a quant job directly after graduation without any additional educational qualification.

3. I don't consider France business school (like HEC, ESSEC) is a good place to do financial engineering (generally). When people are talking about QF in France, they are talking about X, Paris 6, and some more engineering school in Paris, but definitly not business school for QF.

4. indeed, even if you are going to do a MFE type master after your PhD, it is not really that long (just 1 year as you likely can go to M2 directly, or 1.5 year for some programs)
Tuition fee is not a big problem too if you do it in France, or within EU as most (if not all) top MFE program (like the one from Paris 6 or that from ETH) in EU contential are in public school.

5. of course, the down side is, most European top school are undervalued (in terms of reputation) in China when compared to, say US/UK one, with the same level.
school like X or HEC are consider to be one of the toppest in France (and also Europe, including UK), but the are far lag behind when compared to school in UK (say LSE or IC) in China.
Therefore I will doubt the combination of QF+EU contential and back China is reasonable planning or not (unless you only stay in academics, which will count more on your paper than countries when compared to non-academics, but.....why QF then in this case?)

6. doing a PhD in economics is a very horrible advise. Neither it match the goal well, nor it will save $$ or time, as it is reasonable to assume that there are enough saving for 1 year living cost during the PhD before, and the oppoturnity cost of doing a second PhD is very very very high.

bonbons

cheesechan 发表于 2015-10-29 22:04
1. No one really care much about your financial background in quantitative finance. Mathematics & p ...

Thank you for your suggestion, exactly to the point.

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2. What I'm doing now is between Chemistry and Physics and my school is not good enough.  I'm not so confident... Also, my undergraduate and graduate school are not so good.

3. 4. 5. Indeed the reputation of French schools are not so appreciated in China, compared to the America or UK. What I'm thinking is since I'm in France, it's easier for me to continue here, at least the language and the culture. I don't need to adapt to a new environment. What's more, I don't want to attend the GMAT test, I don't have the time to do that. I only have a moderate GRE score.

6. I won't do a second Ph.D, it seems my whole life will be dedicated to obtain the Ph.D degree. My plan is to save as much money as possible during these two years, but I think I can't sustain for a long period of time, maybe at most one year tuition fee + living expense.

Thank you again. I guess you are doing your study in UK?

cheesechan

1, 2.
well...some material sceience or engineering stuffs?......umum....i guess a bit too far away from FE, and need a bit more education like MFE is you wanna work as a quant.
but at the very first point........what path do you really want first?

3, 4, 5. Good MFE program don't consider GMAT. Given you have a PhD at that moment, GRE will be just a formality instead of really have any impact on admission.

6. one year tuition + living expense should be an enough budget as most MFE are just 1 or 1.5 year. but.........the amount of 1 year tuition can varies a lot from country to country.
say for ETH MSc QF it is like 700 CHF per semester, Ecole Polytechnique is like 4400 EUR per year, while for Imperial it can be 27K GBP for one year MSc.

P.S. not in UK.

neverlandsu02

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catherine27629

前辈，我想了解一下essec的m2金融方向是偏master in finance还是 advanced master in financial techniques？

bonbons

cheesechan 发表于 2015-10-30 05:54
1, 2.
well...some material sceience or engineering stuffs?......umum....i guess a bit too far away f ...

同意！               

bonbons

cheesechan 发表于 2015-10-30 05:54
1, 2.
well...some material sceience or engineering stuffs?......umum....i guess a bit too far away f ...

Thank you again.

1.2 I did chemical engineering for Master, and now I'm doing material science.
What I'm thinking for my future career is to be a manager not a technical operator. Why I want to change? I can't explain clearly. maybe because in my filed, it's too tired to earn a little bit salary. Or maybe because I want to get some challenges.

3.4.5 OK for this, English certificate is not a big problem as u said above.

6. Based on what u sugested, I checked some schools, manily focus on the ones in UK. LSE is great,  I don't have a strong background. But I'd like to try.

Another question is about major. I have no idea about the major.

cheesechan

bonbons 发表于 2015-11-1 00:37
What I'm thinking for my future career is to be a manager not a technical operator. Why I want to change? I can't explain clearly. maybe because in my filed, it's too tired to earn a little bit salary. Or maybe because I want to get some challenges......

well..........many many people dream to be a manager in a very early stage of career as it seems to be a easier life........but the most direct way of working towards it is to get to an entry role in a certain industry as soon as possible, and climb the corporate ladder.......
doing whatever education is 99% likely waste of time.

I am not sure about the salary in your industry, but...I am not sure if you mean the salary now you have, or the expected one after graduation.
In PhD stage, one is not paid well for sure.

bonbons

cheesechan 发表于 2015-11-1 02:49
well..........many many people dream to be a manager in a very early stage of career as it seems to ...

I was told like this: to find a position as early as possible. Thank you very much for your advice. Actually, the graduates in my lab can find a job  not so bad (all of them are French), my boss has a huge network. I will see. Merci beaucoup.