超级变态句子结构请教

enkyklios

how different things must appear now with Megan goodness only knows where with a man who we discover was prone to violent rows with his wife.

请大牛指教， where又没有引导从句，with megan (人名）knows （动词？）
这句话到底怎么翻译？

enkyklios

.In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje, Yugoslavia, claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who they say has continued to appear to them over the ensuing years.
(A) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(B) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(C) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(D) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(E) had claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom

I chose B, but right answer is A. so on earth in which circumstance we should use perfect tense " have had"  ,why not "have". and i found it conflit with the rigth answer of SECTION B 14(D).
14.    The Western world’s love affair with chocolate is well-documented: few people have been known to have tasted it for the first time without requesting more.
(A) few people have been known to have tasted it
(B) few having been known to taste it
(C) it has been tasted by few people
(D) few people have been known to taste it
(E) few people having tasted it


So who can explain it legitmately and soundly?
9.It takes a deft balance between savings discipline, investment knowledge, risk taking, luck, and time to raise a million dollars through investments.
(A) It takes a deft balance between
(B) Deft balancing is needed between
(C) Deftly balanced, it takes
(D) It takes a deft balance of
(E) A deft balance is what one needs among

I choose E, the right answer is D, who can explain it? if you can translate this stence, I will furtherly appreciate it.

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发表于 2003-10-5 16:37:00 |只看该作者
E definitely is not the answer, too "luosu" redundant. Meaning of the sentence, to make profit on your investment, you need to strike a balance among varioius factors such as knowledge, luck, timing etc.

First question actually did not focus on sentence tense. "who" in A is better than "whom", so A is the answer. Also "have had" is compatible with "claimed".

In your second sentence, scenario is different.
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发表于 2003-10-5 16:51:00 |只看该作者
以下是引用felix2816在2003-10-5 13:03:00的发言：
885 section E, the 2 most diffcult questions need XDJM to help:

4.In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje, Yugoslavia, claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who they say has continued to appear to them over the ensuing years.
(A) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(B) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(C) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(D) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(E) had claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom

I chose B, but right answer is A. so on earth in which circumstance we should use perfect tense " have had"  ,why not "have". and i found it conflit with the rigth answer of SECTION B 14(D).
14. The Western world’s love affair with chocolate is well-documented: few people have been known to have tasted it for the first time without requesting more.
(A) few people have been known to have tasted it
(B) few having been known to taste it
(C) it has been tasted by few people
(D) few people have been known to taste it
(E) few people having tasted it


So who can explain it legitmately and soundly?
  

这个问题问的好！这涉及到了不定式的时态问题，根据LZM书上的讲解，当用do+to do结构时，如果不定式的动作发生在主动作之前，那么此时就应该用不定式的完成时态。也就是说如果你看到了不定式紧跟在一个动词之后，就应该特别小心不定式的时态！
用这种方法确实能解决不少问题，但是LZM毕竟是LZM，他的方法并不能解释所有这一类的do+to do结构关于不定式时态的用法。因为还有很多题目中就没有用不定式的完成时态， 比如说你的第二个问题。现在我们几个斑竹也正在积极思考这个问题，一有结果我们会马上公布出来。


9.It takes a deft balance between savings discipline, investment knowledge, risk taking, luck, and time to raise a million dollars through investments.
(A) It takes a deft balance between
(B) Deft balancing is needed between
(C) Deftly balanced, it takes
(D) It takes a deft balance of
(E) A deft balance is what one needs among
I choose E, the right answer is D, who can explain it? if you can translate this stence, I will furtherly appreciate it.

这道题首先就是考你一个句型：It takes (sb) sth to do sth.很典型，记得中学就学过。
这句话我尝试翻译一下吧：要通过投资来筹集百万美金的话，必须在储蓄定律，投资知识，冒险，运气和时间之间做一个非常巧妙的平衡！也就是说做这事可不是那么简单的，需要考虑到这么多的因素。
请记住这个句型！
Aim high, act high. Think Big, do big. We are realistic, but we are more optimistic!!! Fighting together!

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发表于 2003-10-6 12:01:00 |只看该作者
to remeo: thx for ur considerate explanation. I got it. hope u post ur fruit on "不定式的完成时态" soon.
to travellouge:also thx u for ur reply.


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4.In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje, Yugoslavia, claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who they say has continued to appear to them over the ensuing years.
(A) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(B) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(C) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(D) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(E) had claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom

My view:
choice B,C,E should be first excluded because the clause can be regarded as  "who (they say) has continued to appear to them over the ensuing years", "who" serves as the subject of the clause. Between choice A and choice D, the verb "have visions of" occurs prior to the verb "claim". you can translate it into chinese"....声称已经目睹过virgin mary...". In fact, the clause also give a cue by describing ...continued to..., that means that they have had visions of virgin mary.

14. The Western world’s love affair with chocolate is well-documented: few people have been known to have tasted it for the first time without requesting more.
(A) few people have been known to have tasted it
(D) few people have been known to taste it

choice B,C,E respectively has obvious error.  About choice A and D, the sentence gives a cue by describing .....for the first time...., so i choice D. I think that the tense of the infinitive  is up to the logical meaning of the sentence.

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同意!答得太好了.

以下是引用travellogue在2003-10-5 16:37:00的发言：
E definitely is not the answer, too "luosu" redundant. Meaning of the sentence, to make profit on your investment, you need to strike a balance among varioius factors such as knowledge, luck, timing etc.

First question actually did not focus on sentence tense. "who" in A is better than "whom", so A is the answer. Also "have had" is compatible with "claimed".

In your second sentence, scenario is different.


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14题还是不明白啊，不是说for后面跟完成时态么？

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up！

yuandefeiyi

how different things must appear （now with Megan goodness only knows） where with a man who we discover was prone to violent rows with his wife.

我觉得括号里的 指的 就是 （只有Megan goodness 才知道） different things must  出现在 哪里（即 with a man who。。 的那里）

enkyklios

可是你不觉的奇怪吗，with sb怎么能跟动词

enkyklios

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patrickgmail

我老师的解析：
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If so, how different things must appear now with Megan goodness only knows where with a man who we discover was prone to violent rows with his wife.

下次给我句子，最好给我上下文，否则单纯靠语法，只能知道大概说什么，不能很好的理解此句话的真实含义。

长难句要靠语法、语感、语境，综合应用才好，有很多时候，尤其是考试的时候，你要抓idea，忽略语法。当然课下好好研究语法，考场上忘记语法，没时间想这是倒装还是省略，主谓宾定状补什么的。就是读懂！

下面为上下文语境：
So now it appears that schoolgirel Megan stammers'secret love affair with her maths teacher wasn’t so secret after all.
Other pupils knew about it, teachers had been told about it and missing maths teacher Jeremy Forrest was under ­investigation about the relationship.
And yet Megan still trundled off to school every day into the clutches of a 30-year-old married man who was clearly infatuated with her.
说一小女孩喜欢已婚老师，
What were they all thinking? Did they imagine this was some kind of star-crossed lovers situation that should be indulged or ­tolerated?
想什么哪他们？是否他们以为自己是可以被接受或者容忍的命运多舛的情人？
If so, how different things must appear now with Megan goodness only knows where with a man who we discover was prone to violent rows with his wife.
假如果真如此的话，（认为自己是罗密欧和朱丽叶哪） how different things must appear now with Megan现在对于megan来说最大的一点不同 goodness only knows=GOD ONLY KNOWS表语气=哎呀我天哪！ where=就是她正跟一个我们发现整天价和自己老婆吵架的男人在一起哪。

where的用法之一：
用于引申意义:
The crisis has reached a point where the receiver will have to be called in.危机已经到达非把破产管理人叫来不可的地步。
Where will all this trouble lead? ( =What result will it have? ) 这件麻烦的事会惹出什么结果?
Can you succeed where others failed? 别人干砸的事情， 你能干成吗？

how是强调句型，who discover后面应该有个who引导后面的定语从句，不过因为前面有个who discover定语从句，二者都是用来修饰a man，故可省略who。这是一篇镜报的新闻报道,会有些口语化的表达.所以有些讨厌。

enkyklios

非常感谢你的回答，
那么现在句子成了这样 how different things must appear now with Megan是一个感叹句， （goodness only knows）插入语
where with a man ……（定语从句不管），where with a man没有谓语不是一个句子，
这句话你的意思是说 how……（主语从句）where从句（作宾语）问题是去掉插入语后主语从句和宾语之间也没有谓语

enkyklios

patrickgmail 不在了吗？

enkyklios

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