Helr GMAT题库 周周练 Helr-SC-002 (答案和解析已放出)

babybearmm

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选C


说实话这题做得挺纠结的，主要是句意搞不懂（最大困难在于不知道"regular users"和"soda drinkers"这两种人群到底是个什么逻辑关系），所以难得在做SC题目时用到note-taking.
从选项A里我理解的句意是这样的（笔记提炼，只管意思不管语法）：
1. ">1 j a day" for regular users have the same kind of "OI effect".
    1'   "OI effect" is engaged in by soda drinkers
2. THOUGH ">1 j a day" be viewed as D.
(I try to make it simple & stupid: D is bad, "OI effect" is good. So here's the logical contrast indicated by "although". )


(A)的最大问题在于pronoun "they"没有符合逻辑的antecedent. 卡擦。


(B). does not make sense. 读完就卡擦了，不过如果要仔细解释的话：
Problem #1. "As for regular users" indicates that the main clause should talk about ANOTHER group, which shares the similarity with "regular users".
Analogy: As for amateur fans, this book is designed for professionals.  
This sentence means this book is suitable for both amateur fans and professionals.
所以这选项的"as"不make sense.
Problem #2. 整体逻辑不对。只涉及了我上面的2和1'，不涉及1.


(C). 我本来第一遍是排除了这个选项的，因为觉得对原意改变太大：
#1.原意并没有说谁来view (again, passive voice does not show the subject of the action)，这里添加了view的主语regular users
#2. 对我提炼的1这一点: 1. ">1 j a day" for regular users have the same kind of "OI effect".
但这里认为D itself成为了1的cause。也算添加了意思吧。
后来发现5个选项都被我排除了，也就(C)稍微还可以接受，就它了。


btw: 发现我和G老师思路不太一样，我是比较看重A选项体现出来的作者原意的，我觉得GMAT SC里改变原意或者添加意思都需要有justification，往往是在A选项原意不合逻辑的时候才能改变使之合乎逻辑，或者在A选项有歧义的时候去消除歧义。发现很多题目选项里随意添加意思都是算错的。不过这道题嘛，因为我本来就对原意不太理解，所以也许是原句蕴含了一些我没有读出来的意思？


(D). "though"那个用法感觉怪怪的。我是觉得这句子语法错误。"though" should lead a dependent clause, like this:
Though (dependent clause), (independent clause).
However, there is no independent clause in the sentence.
而且这个句子也和(C)一样添加了意思：D成为了OI effect的cause.

(E). same as (D)

Though they might be viewed as a form of deprivation, little more than a joint a day for regular users could have the same kind of compensatory over-indulgence that is engaged in by soda drinkers.
A. Though they might be viewed as a form of deprivation, little more than a joint a day for regular users could have the same kind of compensatory over-indulgence that is engaged in by soda drinkers.
B. As for regular users, little more than a joint a day may be viewed as a form of deprivation but leading soda drinkers engaged in the same kind of compensatory.
C. Though regular users may view little more than a joint a day as a form of deprivation, the deprivation itself can lead the soda drinkers to engage in the same kind of compensatory over-indulgence.
D. Little more than a joint a day for regular users, though, might be viewed as a form of deprivation, which could lead to the same kind of compensatory over-indulgence engaged in by soda drinkers.
E. Little more than a joint a day for regular users, though, may be viewed a form of deprivation, leading the soda drinkers to be engaged in the same kind of compensatory over-indulgence.

-- by 会员 GMAT (2012/6/28 10:44:01)

babybearmm

最大的难点是，joint到底是什么东西？请查词典： joingt ： A marijuana cigarette。没有这个意思，很难解释这句话。
relude, Verdana, san-serif">Little more than a joint a day for regular users, though, might be viewed as a form of deprivation, which could lead to the same kind of compensatory over-indulgence engaged in by soda drinkers who expect their daily due.
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/talking-back/2012/06/23/16-ounce-cokes-and-40-joints-a-month-when-government-dictates-to-consumers/

-- by 会员 HerringtonD (2012/6/28 14:20:03)

joint者weed也，大麻也。。哈哈

-- by 会员 cursedeye (2012/6/29 4:49:39)

原来是这样啊~~我说我怎么不理解"regular users"和"soda drinkers"什么关系.....看来是两种人群的类比，吸毒者和喝soda者

但，我还是觉得这题没有正确答案啊！！原句根本读不出来depr直接造成OI effect这个意思，而CDE都是凭空添加了这层意思。

yuhanglin617

我認為應該是(C)...

Wandmaker

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D
A的they指代不对；B中的but前后不对称；C和E都是固定搭配lead to doing 出了问题~

babybearmm

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Though they might be viewed as a form of deprivation, little more than a joint a day for regular users could have the same kind of compensatory over-indulgence that is engaged in by soda drinkers.
A. Though they might be viewed as a form of deprivation, little more than a joint a day for regular users could have the same kind of compensatory over-indulgence that is engaged in by soda drinkers.
B. As for regular users, little more than a joint a day may be viewed as a form of deprivation but leading soda drinkers engaged in the same kind of compensatory.
C. Though regular users may view little more than a joint a day as a form of deprivation, the deprivation itself can lead the soda drinkers to engage in the same kind of compensatory over-indulgence.
D. Little more than a joint a day for regular users, though, might be viewed as a form of deprivation, which could lead to the same kind of compensatory over-indulgence engaged in by soda drinkers.
E. Little more than a joint a day for regular users, though, may be viewed a form of deprivation, leading the soda drinkers to be engaged in the same kind of compensatory over-indulgence.

-- by 会员 GMAT (2012/6/28 10:44:01)

改一下我的答案，选(D)


之前我都以为(D)里面的which指代的是"deprivation"，跟C一样改变了句意。刚突然想，G老师这题，如果把which理解为指代"a form of deprivation"，那么逻辑上就完全符合原意了。


">1 j a day" = "a form of deprivation" = which could lead to the same kind of OI effect


所以我觉得该选(D).


不过，如果(D)真的是正确答案的话，窃以为这道题出得不好，因为不GMAT-like.
Ron大神总结过关于"comma+which"的指代:
http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/post31162.html



the gmat tends to write sentences in which "which" stands for the ELIGIBLE noun that's closest to the comma.
by "eligible", i mean that the noun has to AGREE IN TERMS OF SINGULAR/PLURAL with the FOLLOWING VERB.

here's an example:

the box of nails, which is on the counter, is to be used on this project.

in this case, "which" CANNOT refer to "nails", since the verb "is" is singular. therefore, the nearest eligible noun is "box (of nails)". so, "which" unambiguously stands for that.

in our observation, the gmat has been VERY good about this.
whenever i've seen a "which" that refers to "X + preposition + Y" rather than just Y, it has ALWAYS been the case that X was singular and Y was plural (or X was plural and Y was singular), and the verb had a form that matched X and didn't match Y.




这题(D)选项：... might be viewed as a form of deprivation, which could lead to ...
"nearest eligible noun" is deprivation, so, technically speaking, "which" should refer to "deprivation", a reference that is illogical.


看这个prep题目
http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/for-the-first-time-t4359.html?sid=33b6bbaaabe6801e96b979d081e63109


For the first time in the modern era, non-Hispanic Whites are officially a minority in California, which amounts to a little less than half the population of the state, down from nearly three-quarters only a decade ago.

A. which amounts to a little less than half the population of the state, down from nearly three-quarters only a decade ago
B. which amounts to a little less than half the population of the state, down from a decade ago, when it was nearly three-quarters
C. and that amounts to a little less than half the population of the state, down from a decade ago, when they were nearly three-quarters
D. amounting to a little less than half the population of the state, down from nearly three-quarters a decade ago
E. amounting to a little less than half the population of the state, down from what it was a decade ago by nearly three-quarters



OA: D


选项(A)错误的理由，正是那个which: 照A那么写，which只能指代"California"，而不能指代"a minority in California". 而当which指代"California"的时候，不合逻辑。


所以我觉得，假如这题答案真的是(D)的话，用which来指代"a form of deprivation"也不符合GMAT思路。如果答案不是(D)，那我觉得没答案了-_-

cursedeye

选项(A)错误的理由，正是那个which: 照A那么写，which只能指代"California"，而不能指代"a minority in California". 而当which指代"California"的时候，不合逻辑。


所以我觉得，假如这题答案真的是(D)的话，用which来指代"a form of deprivation"也不符合GMAT思路。如果答案不是(D)，那我觉得没答案了-_-

-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/6/29 15:51:40)

这题没问题
a form of deprivation 和 a minority in California 这里的 of 和 in 逻辑的紧密程度差远了

icyjeannelij

最大的难点是，joint到底是什么东西？请查词典： joingt ： A marijuana cigarette。没有这个意思，很难解释这句话。
事实上原题将难度人为地提升了，没有上下文，而且去了尾巴。-to-consumers/

-- by 会员 HerringtonD (2012/6/28 14:20:03)

Joint是大麻啦。

Johnsonjz

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选C
D 和E都是两个从句，没有主句
A中后半部分，the same ..... that 搭配错误
B中的but多余

glhelr

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Though they might be viewed as a form of deprivation, little more than a joint a day for regular users could have the same kind of compensatory over-indulgence that is engaged in by soda drinkers.
A. Though they might be viewed as a form of deprivation, little more than a joint a day for regular users could have the same kind of compensatory over-indulgence that is engaged in by soda drinkers.
B. As for regular users, little more than a joint a day may be viewed as a form of deprivation but leading soda drinkers engaged in the same kind of compensatory.
C. Though regular users may view little more than a joint a day as a form of deprivation, the deprivation itself can lead the soda drinkers to engage in the same kind of compensatory over-indulgence.
D. Little more than a joint a day for regular users, though, might be viewed as a form of deprivation, which could lead to the same kind of compensatory over-indulgence engaged in by soda drinkers.
E. Little more than a joint a day for regular users, though, may be viewed a form of deprivation, leading the soda drinkers to be engaged in the same kind of compensatory over-indulgence.

-- by 会员 GMAT (2012/6/28 10:44:01)

改一下我的答案，选(D)


之前我都以为(D)里面的which指代的是"deprivation"，跟C一样改变了句意。刚突然想，G老师这题，如果把which理解为指代"a form of deprivation"，那么逻辑上就完全符合原意了。


">1 j a day" = "a form of deprivation" = which could lead to the same kind of OI effect


所以我觉得该选(D).


不过，如果(D)真的是正确答案的话，窃以为这道题出得不好，因为不GMAT-like.
Ron大神总结过关于"comma+which"的指代:
http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/post31162.html



the gmat tends to write sentences in which "which" stands for the ELIGIBLE noun that's closest to the comma.
by "eligible", i mean that the noun has to AGREE IN TERMS OF SINGULAR/PLURAL with the FOLLOWING VERB.

here's an example:

the box of nails, which is on the counter, is to be used on this project.

in this case, "which" CANNOT refer to "nails", since the verb "is" is singular. therefore, the nearest eligible noun is "box (of nails)". so, "which" unambiguously stands for that.

in our observation, the gmat has been VERY good about this.
whenever i've seen a "which" that refers to "X + preposition + Y" rather than just Y, it has ALWAYS been the case that X was singular and Y was plural (or X was plural and Y was singular), and the verb had a form that matched X and didn't match Y.




这题(D)选项：... might be viewed as a form of deprivation, which could lead to ...
"nearest eligible noun" is deprivation, so, technically speaking, "which" should refer to "deprivation", a reference that is illogical.


看这个prep题目
http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/for-the-first-time-t4359.html?sid=33b6bbaaabe6801e96b979d081e63109


For the first time in the modern era, non-Hispanic Whites are officially a minority in California, which amounts to a little less than half the population of the state, down from nearly three-quarters only a decade ago.

A. which amounts to a little less than half the population of the state, down from nearly three-quarters only a decade ago
B. which amounts to a little less than half the population of the state, down from a decade ago, when it was nearly three-quarters
C. and that amounts to a little less than half the population of the state, down from a decade ago, when they were nearly three-quarters
D. amounting to a little less than half the population of the state, down from nearly three-quarters a decade ago
E. amounting to a little less than half the population of the state, down from what it was a decade ago by nearly three-quarters



OA: D


选项(A)错误的理由，正是那个which: 照A那么写，which只能指代"California"，而不能指代"a minority in California". 而当which指代"California"的时候，不合逻辑。


所以我觉得，假如这题答案真的是(D)的话，用which来指代"a form of deprivation"也不符合GMAT思路。如果答案不是(D)，那我觉得没答案了-_-

-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/6/29 15:51:40)

我在这里先回复一下这个问题吧，关于“which”的指代问题。我对Manhattan的说法并不认同，这个“which”，其实根本不存在所谓的“五种情况跳跃修饰”（manhattan书上写的，貌似是5个，不太记得了）。 GMAT，也从来没对于“which”的修饰作出规定。一切都是从推理角度出发的。但是这个词说的很好----“eligible”。 which，所需要知道的只是，“合适的就近修饰”。


我对GMAT的理解是： 没有像不像GMAT，只有和GMAT推理思路是否一致。形式上和GMAT一样很容易，但是OG，Prep，GWD，形式都不相同。 已经有无数的GMAT语法点（比如，修饰法律只能用ving）被不攻自破了，因为GMAT不考察语法点的记忆。希望我没有剧透这个题目哈~~

yuanyuanblue

A. Though they might be viewed as a form of deprivation, little more than a joint a day for regular users could have the same kind of compensatory over-indulgence that is engaged in by soda drinkers.they指代问题，
B. As for regular users, little more than a joint a day may be viewed as a form of deprivation but leading soda drinkers engaged in the same kind of compensatory.  排除，but后面的内容和前面的内容讲述不同，
C. Though regular users may view little more than a joint a day as a form of deprivation, the deprivation itself can lead the soda drinkers to engage in the same kind of compensatory over-indulgence.这个结构很像1中分析过的结构，the deprivation和前面的regular user各说各的没表达逻辑结构，所以应该排除。
D. Little more than a joint a day for regular users, though, might be viewed as a form of deprivation, which could lead to the same kind of compensatory over-indulgence engaged in by soda drinkers.which的逻辑指代不明，应该排除。
E. Little more than a joint a day for regular users, though, may be viewed a form of deprivation, leading the soda drinkers to be engaged in the same kind of compensatory over-indulgence.
选了E