咨询投行和公司 loser's dilemma can be seen in gentie

carbonzju

支持楼上。。顺便问Oxsead你是今年战斗签名的几个学校么？

OxSead

后年吧。你要申请吗？

carbonzju

后年吧。你要申请吗？

-- by 会员 OxSead (2012/4/28 1:08:02)

你很小?  我就不等你了哈哈

OxSead

后年吧。你要申请吗？

-- by 会员 OxSead (2012/4/28 1:08:02)

你很小?  我就不等你了哈哈

-- by 会员 carbonzju (2012/4/28 1:18:57)

祝你成功。记得分享面经什么的给我们这些晚辈。哈。

zbb88

My compamny finished recruiting just now with 16 mbas and 10 undergraduates and 2 masters coming in.  We interviewed over thousands on campus for MBA at 22 schools.16 counts in both direct full time and internship pipeline.
Undergraduate come from either unknown public school or Harvard.our undergrad acceptance rate upon offer is 100 percent while MBA is about 50 percent. Unders are overly paid


Consulting and ib are taking far more people than we do,cheers

Why losers lose? Losers judge

-- by 会员 alibaba2011 (2012/4/26 5:03:04)

楼主注意措辞，不要动不动用loser什么的词。

且不说global 的PE/VC/HF了，即使以leadership program而论，要说selectivity，烟草公司也并不算什么特别突出的吧。有的program，比如Dow Chemicals，只去3所学校，进的人给报销全部MBA学费，出来直接管一个P&L。我认识的往届拿到offer的中国童鞋还不是直接拒了去consulting。这个项目，有的学校的MBA，想去都没机会，那么他们是不是loser？况且烟草公司，在一些MBA尤其是美国人看来未必光彩。HYP的endowment，通常都不投烟草行业，因为觉得这个行业在道德上有缺失。

进了一个貌似selective的公司项目，就瞧不上别人，觉得旁人是loser，Post-MBA的思维不应该还停留在这样的层次吧。真正的牛人，是知道最适合自己的路，知道自己的不足，但却能有所成就，并为周围的人和社会创造价值的人。这也才是衡量winner/loser的标准。

-- by 会员 tianya111 (2012/4/27 11:26:31)

大家乐一乐就行了。在那么"SELECTIVE"的公司，最后不也就是和本科生一起挤HSBC实习么.

zbb88

不过这贴确实挺欢乐的。

ccafic

My compamny finished recruiting just now with 16 mbas and 10 undergraduates and 2 masters coming in.  We interviewed over thousands on campus for MBA at 22 schools.16 counts in both direct full time and internship pipeline.
Undergraduate come from either unknown public school or Harvard.our undergrad acceptance rate upon offer is 100 percent while MBA is about 50 percent. Unders are overly paid


Consulting and ib are taking far more people than we do,cheers

Why losers lose? Losers judge

-- by 会员 alibaba2011 (2012/4/26 5:03:04)

楼主注意措辞，不要动不动用loser什么的词。

且不说global 的PE/VC/HF了，即使以leadership program而论，要说selectivity，烟草公司也并不算什么特别突出的吧。有的program，比如Dow Chemicals，只去3所学校，进的人给报销全部MBA学费，出来直接管一个P&L。我认识的往届拿到offer的中国童鞋还不是直接拒了去consulting。这个项目，有的学校的MBA，想去都没机会，那么他们是不是loser？况且烟草公司，在一些MBA尤其是美国人看来未必光彩。HYP的endowment，通常都不投烟草行业，因为觉得这个行业在道德上有缺失。

进了一个貌似selective的公司项目，就瞧不上别人，觉得旁人是loser，Post-MBA的思维不应该还停留在这样的层次吧。真正的牛人，是知道最适合自己的路，知道自己的不足，但却能有所成就，并为周围的人和社会创造价值的人。这也才是衡量winner/loser的标准。

-- by 会员 tianya111 (2012/4/27 11:26:31)

大家乐一乐就行了。在那么"SELECTIVE"的公司，最后不也就是和本科生一起挤HSBC实习么.

-- by 会员 zbb88 (2012/4/28 4:43:03)

这句伤得很深也。
或许因为我们不是LZ， 米有办法作出全面的判断。
讨论这些要比讨论天气(百慕大除外)有营养。
祝大家好运！

ccafic

"这个好玩，如果考虑生命的起源，大家都是winner哦......"
好不容易来人间走一回， 小弟坚信是要感恩的。

rmbaos

LZ的英文......

-- by 会员 rmbaos (2012/4/26 10:15:32)

哎 MIT怎么招楼主进去了呢。。。匪夷所思啊

-- by 会员 carbonzju (2012/4/26 13:08:00)

没看出楼主英文哪里有问题，wording和grammer都没问题。你还印证了LZ最后的那句话

-- by 会员 simonwalker (2012/4/27 20:50:20)

用词和语法的错误还没有？

-- by 会员 rmbaos (2012/4/27 23:38:51)

simon连grammar都不会spell，显然英文跟lz同一个水平，当然会认为lz英文没问题... LOL

-- by 会员 OxSead (2012/4/28 0:53:17)

估计就是马甲......当然也有可能就是同事。

alibaba2011

Losers I mention here are people who judge in gentie like  oxsead and rmboo
I just present some hard facts.
I never say people getting in my company are winners, or more winning.
But ppl following my tieZi keep pickling English and grammar, nice, help me correct it, losers?I amx using new pad in vacation, not an office laptop, and I don't think I need to be serious in spelling or grammar in forum tieZi

HSBC global market internship associate does not consider undergrads
I bet I get in because I network harder, pre MBA internship is not easy

People asking me not to call others losers, I accept the rec. yet, theses losers turn it on first after my hard facts and my opinion.

Losers lose because they judge. They judge me first, so it is fair to call them losers, and apparently they are.

Oxsead is another big loser, Singaporean English is English,are u serious? Learn English and respect before even considering an MBA ok?MBA is not a savior of loser's miserable career, or stuck in some southeast discriminating feudalist town.
Simonwalker is your daddy's Majia or whatsoever, I dunno this guy at least. I don't care.
Rmboas , go to hell, tuck is top 1 in mars, ok? I accept it.

Anyone who want to go banking or consulting, just go. They are not really that hard to get in, I don't have exact numbers, but I tell from common sense.
My primary target starting MBA this year is entreprenEur, then consulting, then industry. That is why i try to get into I bank before even starting MBA this summer, I am curious, and want the experience.