gwd 8 Q27

pebbles

以下是引用lukapurple在2005-7-26 23:16:00的发言：

重新看了一遍，还是支持A.  misrepresenting 暗含了(suggests）作者的态度认为这种观点是inaccurate，而B无法反映这一点。

支持A.作者指责C这帮人靠"强加给"T这帮人所谓的观点来获得大众的认可.言下之意,这个观点并非T的观点.这点与后面Clark从理论,实践两方面给予了反驳是对应的.所以这个"are supposed to" 就是批评C这帮人的: T are supposed "by C们" to... 这里混淆就在到底是 are supposed "by C们" 还是 are supposed "by public".想想这是C们的论点,当然是C们这么认为了.普通大众谁懂谁care啊

问个相关问题,哪位NN看懂了这几句,请给解释一下:

technological determinists are supposed to believe, for example, that machinery imposes appropriate forms of order on society. The alternative to constructivism, in other words, is to view technology as existing outside society, capable of directly influencing skills and work organization.

在文中什么意思啊?

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The constructivists gain acceptance by misrepresenting technological determinism: technological determinists are supposed to believe, for example, that machinery imposes appropriate forms of order on society. C人通过错误地定义技术决定论来获得人们的认同：例如，假定技术决定论者认为机器带来了恰当的社会秩序的形式。

Q27: The author of the passage uses the expression “are supposed to” in lines 34-35 primarily in order to （是问目的，而不是问内容）

A. suggest that a contention made by constructivists regarding determinists is inaccurate 前面有人说这个contention是关于determinism而不是关于determinist的，但是冒号内容的主语就是determinist,而且冒号清楚的表达了后面内容的目的，向前定位，正确  

B. define the generally accepted position of determinists regarding the implementation of technology  这里这个generally我不同意，原文是gain acceptance,并没有说范围，而且也没有提到技术的执行方面的事呀，只是肯定了机器的作用。

再做一个假设，把suuposed to去掉，原文就成了对一个客观事实的陈述，如果B正确的话，那也可以成立啊，那还加上这几个单词干什么啊？不是没有用了吗？所以我认为是A正确

欢迎讨论啊

amacd

以下是引用calla在2005-5-15 11:37:00的发言：

The author of the passage uses the expression “are supposed to” in lines 34-35 primarily in order to                     

A. suggest that a contention made by constructivists regarding determinists is Inaccurate

B. define the generally accepted position of determinists regarding the implementation of technology

文中的31至37行

The constructivists gain acceptance by misrepresenting technological determinism:

technological determinists are(35)   supposed to believe, for example, that machinery imposes appropriate forms of order on society.

B is better than A,

tech determinists are supposed to believe , (here go on to state what they SHOULD believe, not what they have been mislead to)

if the sentence is constructed as follows:

Tech determinists are supposed to believe, but now view tech as tech existing outside the society...... Answer will be A then

Difference between A and B

A: the statment after "supposed.." is inaccurate, it's not tech determinists should believe

B: the statement after "supposed..." is to define, what they general believe.

---open to discuss---

grandli

支持22楼的解释

wangwei8581

我觉得选A

从出题人的角度，如果be supposed to 仅仅是一个“被认为”而不包括“被误认为”的意思的话，那这个be supposed to 便是可有可无，这个题还有什么意思呢。

bigmachine

抓大放小，对于这样乱七八糟的题，建议放弃......

raikey

vote for A

即使A错,我也选A.

因为"misrepresent"这明显是个提示词,考试时看到这样的东东还有什么好犹豫的?

一共才75min啊......

罗马青年

如果是考试，我还是会选A，misrepresenting就是考点提示词，否则出题没什么意义。

tendgrr

没错，考试就那么点反映时间，想要定位思考理解反复推敲，也没那个条件啊

mixtec

反复了好多回，从文章整体把握A比较有道理。

作者整篇都在支持Clark，在解释之所以构成论流行时，作者认为这种流行是建立在对决定论错误的理解之上，可见作者对此持批驳的态度。

题目只不过是把misrepresent替换成了inaccurate而已。窃以为本题是做为细节题来考的。

B的论述内容挑不出毛病，但是体现不了作者的意图in order to