publication对申phd到底可以多重要？

zzmypster

You may email Woochoel for updates. He is a very nice coordinator for UFL quant. Not sure whether Jinhong already has some one in mind. I do think you deserve UFL, especially its focus on analytical fits your interest. No idea about Carlson though.

zhipei

另外，你也太谦虚了，“FYI, I do not have any letter from big names either.”   你可都是已经伯克利录取的了，哎~~这版上还有谁不知到的么？
我interview的那2个学校根本不是tier 2级别啊，要不然我也不至于那么伤心了。for example, 你可能看了那个drexel帖子吧，你认为drexel得沦落到tier几呢？

zzmypster

Believe or not, it is true. Two of my recommenders are econ ap with no publication and no degree from top 10. The other is a well establish econ prof in China, but definitely not a big name in marketing.

zhipei

isn't Lyle Brenner PhD coordinator?? 我和谢晋红做的不一样，和steve shugan match--channel coordination.

You may email Woochoel for updates. He is a very nice coordinator for UFL quant. Not sure whether Jinhong already has some one in mind. I do think you deserve UFL, especially its focus on analytical fits your interest. No idea about Carlson though.

-- by 会员 zzmypster (2012/3/7 1:19:19)

zzmypster

Well, the thing about theory is that you either end up in top schools or nowhere. I would rather try some econ programs as backups. In fact I get into a good one.

zzmypster

Lyle is on CB.
Whatever you do for now, you will be working with her once you get in. Check the Chinese students there. And I heard she is a very productive and helpful advisor. UFL seem to have the tradition of admitting one Chinese quant student every year. I think you would have a good shot.

isn't Lyle Brenner PhD coordinator?? 我和谢晋红做的不一样，和steve shugan match--channel coordination.

You may email Woochoel for updates. He is a very nice coordinator for UFL quant. Not sure whether Jinhong already has some one in mind. I do think you deserve UFL, especially its focus on analytical fits your interest. No idea about Carlson though.

-- by 会员 zzmypster (2012/3/7 1:19:19)

-- by 会员 zhipei (2012/3/7 1:26:37)

zhipei

那看来我的问题也不是没有牛推了。。你gmat考了多少？我730吸引不了top 10, 至少20-30左右应该还差不多的呀？
另外你确定Woochoel Shin是 coordinator? 是的话我就给他写信问问了

Believe or not, it is true. Two of my recommenders are econ ap with no publication and no degree from top 10. The other is a well establish econ prof in China, but definitely not a big name in marketing.

-- by 会员 zzmypster (2012/3/7 1:24:44)

zhipei

thanks!  but Lyle is he, not she, :-)
ok, 我问问Woochoel。 还不如直接告诉我没希望了，我也好死了这个心。

Lyle is on CB.
Whatever you do for now, you will be working with her once you get in. Check the Chinese students there. And I heard she is a very productive and helpful advisor. UFL seem to have the tradition of admitting one Chinese quant student every year. I think you would have a good shot.

isn't Lyle Brenner PhD coordinator?? 我和谢晋红做的不一样，和steve shugan match--channel coordination.

You may email Woochoel for updates. He is a very nice coordinator for UFL quant. Not sure whether Jinhong already has some one in mind. I do think you deserve UFL, especially its focus on analytical fits your interest. No idea about Carlson though.

-- by 会员 zzmypster (2012/3/7 1:19:19)

-- by 会员 zhipei (2012/3/7 1:26:37)

-- by 会员 zzmypster (2012/3/7 1:31:59)

alipay

I can definitely understand your frustration since I'm in a similar or worse situation than you are, with all rejections and no offers yet. But what zzmypster said actually makes a lot of sense. Even though it may not be what you want to hear, he is trying to help and be very honest about what he thinks. Your reply sounds a little passive aggressive to me.


I've also heard similar thoughts from a professor that your publication will signal what kind of scholars you position yourself to be. So for top schools, a B level publication may hurt your chance.

多谢你的建议，我直到你是在给我找原因。
你说JBR不算什么，我先不做评论。 单单说你说你有paper under review on top 1 journal, 什么是undereview? 任何人都可以送paper到top 1上去试，这不代表任何东西，更无法证明你的能力。我想你应该知道under review 和 under revision的区别吧。

我知道我现在能力有限，要是才一个master学生随便就能top, 那top可能真不算什么了，差不多烂大街了吧。

Hi zhipei,

I do not think a JBR is A-. It used to be good. But now, it is tier-3 to me, if QME, JA, JR, JSR, JIM, IJRM etc. count as tier-2. I don't think it is more than a CV filler for faculty in any decent program. Moreover, anything below that would only hurt you.

I am making some bold claims here. Take it with a grain of salt: It seems you are not even trying to publish in top journals. It seems you (and your coauthor) are aiming at some mediocre achievement at most. If that's also the impression you left in committee, I'm afraid thing would not work very well for you. After all, all top 50 programs want to place their students in research school where only tier-1 and tier-2 count for tenure. I would rather have a strong working paper that I presented in major conferences and under review at tier-1 journal, which is basically what I have.

Please do not take it personal, as I'm trying to rationalize how it happened. FYI, I do not have any letter from big names either.

-- by 会员 zzmypster (2012/3/6 23:32:55)

-- by 会员 zhipei (2012/3/7 0:39:58)

zzmypster

I mean you would be working with Jinhong, not Lyle
Yes, Woolchoel is in charge of quant admission. He will probably be the interviewer.

thanks!  but Lyle is he, not she, :-)
ok, 我问问Woochoel。 还不如直接告诉我没希望了，我也好死了这个心。

Lyle is on CB.
Whatever you do for now, you will be working with her once you get in. Check the Chinese students there. And I heard she is a very productive and helpful advisor. UFL seem to have the tradition of admitting one Chinese quant student every year. I think you would have a good shot.

isn't Lyle Brenner PhD coordinator?? 我和谢晋红做的不一样，和steve shugan match--channel coordination.

You may email Woochoel for updates. He is a very nice coordinator for UFL quant. Not sure whether Jinhong already has some one in mind. I do think you deserve UFL, especially its focus on analytical fits your interest. No idea about Carlson though.

-- by 会员 zzmypster (2012/3/7 1:19:19)

-- by 会员 zhipei (2012/3/7 1:26:37)

-- by 会员 zzmypster (2012/3/7 1:31:59)

-- by 会员 zhipei (2012/3/7 1:36:49)