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Heating-oil prices are expected to be higher this year than last because refiners are paying about $5 a barrel more for crude oil than they were last year.

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对于OG12TH 93比较的一点看法,然后还有一个知识点不懂,求解答!

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发表于 2012-1-6 19:05:40 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
Heating-oil prices are expected to be higher this year than last because refiners are paving about S5 a barrel more for crude oil than thev were last year.
(A)Heating-oil prices are expected to be higher this year than last because refiners are paying about $5 a barrel more for crude oil than they were
(B)Heating-oil prices are expected to rise higher this year over last because refiners pay about $5 a barrel for crude oil more than they did
(C)Expectations are for heating-oil prices to be higher this year than last year's because refiners are paying about $5 a barrel for crude oil more than they did

(D)It is the expectation that heating-oil prices will be higher for this year over last because refiners are paying about $5 a barrel more for crude oil now than what they were
(E)It is expected that heating-oil prices will rise higher this year than last year's because refiners pay about $5 a barrel for crude oil more than they did


这题有争议的还是AE选项,个人看了搜索了很多帖子,然后很多N人都总结什么状语还主谓比较神马的,看到我一头雾水,我看了一下句子,突然个人认为E选项有点歧义,但是OG貌似没有说出来
就针对比较而言,很清晰的句意就是今年的油比去年的高
然后E选项歧义就出来了,than last year’s (will)好了,如果这句是省略了will,就改变了句子的意思了,变成今年油价上涨的幅度会比去年油价上涨的幅度要高,但是如果没有will,就可以表示出今年的油比去年高了。。。。然后我个人有个知识点不是很清楚,为什么句末是last year不是应该用一个一般过去时么?怎么来了个they were。。。搜索了好久帖子都没看见,求NN们回答
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沙发
发表于 2012-1-7 10:06:04 | 只看该作者
楼主,我这样分析,你看行不行
(E)It is expected that heating-oil prices will rise higher this year than last year's because refiners pay about $5 a barrel for crude oil more than they did

这里heating-oil prices will rise higher this year中,heating-oil prices是主语,will rise是谓语,higher是状语,然后this year是时间状语。这是than前面的一部分。

而后句中的只有last year's,你觉得这是省略了什么呢?按照你的话补完的话,last year's prices will rise,对吧。

那么按照比较前后的平行,这句话就不如A平行。如果要平行的话,也应该是,主语对主语,谓语对谓语,状语对状语,变成prices would rise last year。

还有就是你说的歧义的问题,我觉得之所以会有歧义不是因为will的省略的问题,而是结构不平行的问题。如果是this year’s prices will rise higher than last year’s,那么即使不出现will也不会有歧义,因为动词后面没有宾语,只是单纯的主谓结构。举个例子:

I eat faster than you. 就不用写成 I eat faster than you do. 因为不会引起歧义,只是单纯的主谓结构。
而 I eat more apple than you do. 就不能省略do,因为会让人误解成“比起吃你,我吃了更多的苹果”这样。这句话有宾语,所以要考虑歧义的问题。

最后,你说的A的they were的问题,是省略了paying。

refiners are paying about $5 a barrel more for crude oil than they were (paying) last year.

不是一个完美的平行么。than以前用现在进行时,than以后因为是last year,所以用过去进行时。
板凳
发表于 2012-1-13 23:15:51 | 只看该作者
这题还有一点是Rhretorical construction的问题,我当时错选了B,B的解释里面:
the comparative terms more than should immediately follow $5 a barrel.

选项E也存在这个问题。
Manhattan书里面也提到特别注意more这些adverb/adjective的位置问题。逻辑上,
paying about $5 a barrel more for crude oil than ... 这里more修饰about $5 a barrel,非常accurate

paying about $5 a barrel for crude oil more than ...这里more修饰前面整个"paying .... for crude oil",即paying more,既可以表示单价提高导致总花费提高,也可以表示“单价既定为about $5 a barrel,而多付一些钱——也就是多买一些商品”,这就造成了逻辑上的ambiguity.


Heating-oil prices are expected to be higher this year than last because refiners are paving about S5 a barrel more for crude oil than thev were last year.
(A)Heating-oil prices are expected to be higher this year than last because refiners are paying about $5 a barrel more for crude oil than they were
(B)Heating-oil prices are expected to rise higher this year over last because refiners pay about $5 a barrel for crude oil more than they did
(C)Expectations are for heating-oil prices to be higher this year than last year's because refiners are paying about $5 a barrel for crude oil more than they did

(D)It is the expectation that heating-oil prices will be higher for this year over last because refiners are paying about $5 a barrel more for crude oil now than what they were
(E)It is expected that heating-oil prices will rise higher this year than last year's because refiners pay about $5 a barrel for crude oil more than they did


这题有争议的还是AE选项,个人看了搜索了很多帖子,然后很多N人都总结什么状语还主谓比较神马的,看到我一头雾水,我看了一下句子,突然个人认为E选项有点歧义,但是OG貌似没有说出来
就针对比较而言,很清晰的句意就是今年的油比去年的高
然后E选项歧义就出来了,than last year’s (will)好了,如果这句是省略了will,就改变了句子的意思了,变成今年油价上涨的幅度会比去年油价上涨的幅度要高,但是如果没有will,就可以表示出今年的油比去年高了。。。。然后我个人有个知识点不是很清楚,为什么句末是last year不是应该用一个一般过去时么?怎么来了个they were。。。搜索了好久帖子都没看见,求NN们回答
-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/1/6 19:05:40)



地板
发表于 2012-1-13 23:27:10 | 只看该作者
我觉得这题还有redundancy的问题
will be higher
will rise
这两个对,但是不能will rise higher
rise和higher意思重复。或者说,逻辑上如果用到rise higher,那就是说增幅的增加,而非它本身的增加,这种一般用higher increase来表示增幅的增加。
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发表于 2012-1-14 09:46:01 | 只看该作者
顶楼上童鞋,那个more than我还真没看出来~粗心!

受教了~
6#
发表于 2012-3-4 15:00:58 | 只看该作者
但我想问一下baby MM,像这种几乎全句都是划线的题,我们一般的做法是逐项排除,最后选出最好的选项(至少这是我从Prinston上学的的方法)。
但是这样的方法导致这一题可能要做比较长的时间,我大概花了2分钟。

所以我想问一下,一般做这种题还有没有其他的技巧?如果没有,怎么能够控制时间呢?
7#
发表于 2012-3-4 15:22:59 | 只看该作者
“我们一般的做法是逐项排除,最后选出最好的选项(至少这是我从Prinston上学的的方法)”
这种方法在考场上肯定要不得
看看stacey@Manhattan的贴子吧,教我们怎么从整体把握,我的日记贴里面有
我现在反倒觉得长划线题最简单,因为从宏观上基本就能迅速瞄准正确选项,而不需要深入微观,也不需要排除法。
8#
发表于 2012-3-4 15:26:17 | 只看该作者
比如这题,读完A选项理解句意,宏观上,A没问题,should be as it is.
什么"Expectations are ..." 或者 "It is ..." 看着就不爽,速度排除,句子主干肯定是A那样,或者类似的B。然后再深入微观,就把A/B不同的地方进行比较,A更好。
9#
发表于 2012-4-10 09:06:43 | 只看该作者
这题还有一点是Rhretorical construction的问题,我当时错选了B,B的解释里面:
the comparative terms more than should immediately follow $5 a barrel.

选项E也存在这个问题。
Manhattan书里面也提到特别注意more这些adverb/adjective的位置问题。逻辑上,
paying about $5 a barrel more for crude oil than ... 这里more修饰about $5 a barrel,非常accurate

paying about $5 a barrel for crude oil more than ...这里more修饰前面整个"paying .... for crude oil",即paying more,既可以表示单价提高导致总花费提高,也可以表示“单价既定为about $5 a barrel,而多付一些钱——也就是多买一些商品”,这就造成了逻辑上的ambiguity.


Heating-oil prices are expected to be higher this year than last because refiners are paving about S5 a barrel more for crude oil than thev were last year.
(A)Heating-oil prices are expected to be higher this year than last because refiners are paying about $5 a barrel more for crude oil than they were
(B)Heating-oil prices are expected to rise higher this year over last because refiners pay about $5 a barrel for crude oil more than they did
(C)Expectations are for heating-oil prices to be higher this year than last year's because refiners are paying about $5 a barrel for crude oil more than they did

(D)It is the expectation that heating-oil prices will be higher for this year over last because refiners are paying about $5 a barrel more for crude oil now than what they were
(E)It is expected that heating-oil prices will rise higher this year than last year's because refiners pay about $5 a barrel for crude oil more than they did


这题有争议的还是AE选项,个人看了搜索了很多帖子,然后很多N人都总结什么状语还主谓比较神马的,看到我一头雾水,我看了一下句子,突然个人认为E选项有点歧义,但是OG貌似没有说出来
就针对比较而言,很清晰的句意就是今年的油比去年的高
然后E选项歧义就出来了,than last year’s (will)好了,如果这句是省略了will,就改变了句子的意思了,变成今年油价上涨的幅度会比去年油价上涨的幅度要高,但是如果没有will,就可以表示出今年的油比去年高了。。。。然后我个人有个知识点不是很清楚,为什么句末是last year不是应该用一个一般过去时么?怎么来了个they were。。。搜索了好久帖子都没看见,求NN们回答
-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/1/6 19:05:40)




-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/1/13 23:15:51)



……实在不好意思,我还是没太看懂more的用法~~A选项中为什么要把more放在这个位置呢?他的意思是说每桶比原来多了5$么?E那种说法为什么不可以呢,可以理解为他们今年每桶花5美元,比去年每桶花得多……求指教!另外关于more 的 还有og后面的94题,有关飞机晚点的问题,正选:55% increase in delays, 错选:55% more delay. 说后者修饰不清晰,为什么呢?O(∩_∩)O谢谢
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发表于 2012-4-10 10:37:32 | 只看该作者
(E)It is expected that heating-oil prices will rise higher this year than last year's because refiners pay about $5 a barrel for crude oil more than they did
注意这里明确说: "pay about $5 a barrel for crude oil",就说目前约"$5 per barrel"这个价,然后补充说more than they did
而原文不是这个意思,是说多付了$5 per barrell. 所以就必须像A那么表达。



55% increase in delays:  本来有100次delays,现在有155次delays
55% more delay,可以有这样的歧义理解:本来delay了100分钟,现在delay了155分钟,就说"55% more"指的是delay的程度
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