留学与移民...... ‘永怀桑梓邑，衰老若为还’！

fuziyang

They will have to evolve much faster in a short time and get even bigger nose so as to survive in the land with perfect clean air that gets a number of 500 for PM2.5, lol

If one day, EU economy goes bust and European people start emigrating to China, what could happen????

He he, it is a funny guess.

-- by 会员 LBSMIF (2011/11/5 22:18:54)

2012man

这个问题分两方面看吧。

随着中国居民财富的增加，迁徙活动肯定活跃。不仅仅有钱人移民去了美国，加拿大，澳洲或者英国等国家。

从发展中国家来看，比如中亚国家，像哈萨克斯坦，大量的中国人进入该国，随着大量移民潮进入这些国家，在一定的周期内，这个群体通过在资本与群居规模的增大，就要改变当地的政治生态。

相对来说，我倒认为这是好现象，因为这样的改变，对中国在未来的国际空间以及自我改进上会有很大的益处。

汉族人的大规模通过资本迁徙在历史上都是罕见的，中国汉人被外族统治的时间是超级长的。我们自己统治自己的时间非常短。更不要说我们主动的通过自己的资本累积进行海外扩张了。我相信中华文化的渗透力，这只是时间问题，就像哈萨克斯坦的国民意识到他们如果再这样下去迟早会被汉族统治的时候，但是又不得不向中国敞开大门的时候，领导层为了国家的财富累积也只能模式这种不断的族群侵入。根据同居，新疆今年的人口比例，汉族人口已经与当地少数民族的比例为1比1了，以前一直是少数人口多，汉族少。现在已经1比1了。哈萨克斯坦这样的国家，要是继续这么发展下去，估计用不了多久，也是特别行政区了。。。嘿嘿！

heythere

这个问题分两方面看吧。

随着中国居民财富的增加，迁徙活动肯定活跃。不仅仅有钱人移民去了美国，加拿大，澳洲或者英国等国家。

从发展中国家来看，比如中亚国家，像哈萨克斯坦，大量的中国人进入该国，随着大量移民潮进入这些国家，在一定的周期内，这个群体通过在资本与群居规模的增大，就要改变当地的政治生态。

相对来说，我倒认为这是好现象，因为这样的改变，对中国在未来的国际空间以及自我改进上会有很大的益处。

汉族人的大规模通过资本迁徙在历史上都是罕见的，中国汉人被外族统治的时间是超级长的。我们自己统治自己的时间非常短。更不要说我们主动的通过自己的资本累积进行海外扩张了。我相信中华文化的渗透力，这只是时间问题，就像哈萨克斯坦的国民意识到他们如果再这样下去迟早会被汉族统治的时候，但是又不得不向中国敞开大门的时候，领导层为了国家的财富累积也只能模式这种不断的族群侵入。根据同居，新疆今年的人口比例，汉族人口已经与当地少数民族的比例为1比1了，以前一直是少数人口多，汉族少。现在已经1比1了。哈萨克斯坦这样的国家，要是继续这么发展下去，估计用不了多久，也是特别行政区了。。。嘿嘿！

-- by 会员 2012man (2011/11/5 23:11:39)

我很忧心

maurise

如果我是美国人 看到蜂拥而来的中国移民 肯定会崩溃的……

立场不同而已 一些人的个人选择永远不可能改变历史车轮前进的轨迹

bigcool

纯粹煽情，没有任何价值，连五毛都不值。我不是反党反人类，只是实事求是。五毛说人家带着财富移居海外是不爱国的表现，真是无厘头。感情呆在大陆被你们愚弄剥削压榨就是高尚的，人家有能力去追求更好的生活环境就是卑劣的。换了五毛，五毛他也不干啊。说在他乡遭遇战火或遇不幸会产生回国的想法也是没脑，我倒遇到好几个在国外打拼的国人，在他乡遇到战乱求助五星红旗大使馆的时候被拒之门外，反倒是不搭边的法国大使馆提供了保护。有个朋友丢了护照去找大使馆，人家说p民的这种小事不要来麻烦使馆，这里是为领导服务的。最后求爷爷告奶奶才给解决问题。我只是想说，一直呆在国内的大多数人，都被cctv，zxb洗脑了，当然在没有意识到的情况下，出来看看你才能看到cctv镜头外的真实世界。

bigcool

叫人家eat american shit，你自己还用人家的鸟语？您给来段古文骂成么？这个我比较稀饭啊。对多数人来讲，就算在国内，也受不到一等国民待遇吧？当然了，您肯定属于统治阶级那边的，体制内待遇自然不同。我只想说，立场不同，观点不同，没啥大不了。只是谁也别给谁扣帽子，尤其是贞洁高尚这种道德帽子，真没见给别人扣帽子的就高尚多少。附一句，我觉得那些坚定不移地相信“伟大”“光荣”“正确”的人才 "naive". 不好意思，说的就是你！哈哈

Perhaps you young people have not stagyed overseas long enough to understand the pain of being migrant workers and being second class citizens.

No matter how hard we are working, we could only obtain a little share of the value that we created. The lion share of the value will go into the pocket of the host countries. This is their land, never be Chinese territory.

With the same effort that we Chinese have been contributing to other countries and other peoples, we can certainly make a huge improvement and achieve a leap forward progress to Chinese social development, including to narrow the social inequality, to upgrade social services, and to overcome many other challenges we are having. Things can be changed. We got to make it happened and make it better rather than escaping from our inherent responsibilities as cowards.

You young PPs do not understand the point simply because you are too naive to have the brain. You idiots are not only brain-washed by CNN, BBC, but also born in that wicked way. I could not be bothered to stopping you from kissing the ass of American, European or even Black people. To a few of you low quality Chinese, whoever can through the tiny little money to you, they are more important than your parents, than your grandparents and than your Chinese ancestors.

You can keep on kissing the ass of American, European, Arabic and Blacks, . I suggest you to do it better, that is, to eat the shit of American. That will prove how wonderful you are as prawns of anti-China scum.

纯粹煽情，没有任何价值，连五毛都不值。我不是反党反人类，只是实事求是。五毛说人家带着财富移居海外是不爱国的表现，真是无厘头。感情呆在大陆被你们愚弄剥削压榨就是高尚的，人家有能力去追求更好的生活环境就是卑劣的。换了五毛，五毛他也不干啊。说在他乡遭遇战火或遇不幸会产生回国的想法也是没脑，我倒遇到好几个在国外打拼的国人，在他乡遇到战乱求助五星红旗大使馆的时候被拒之门外，反倒是不搭边的法国大使馆提供了保护。有个朋友丢了护照去找大使馆，人家说p民的这种小事不要来麻烦使馆，这里是为领导服务的。最后求爷爷告奶奶才给解决问题。我只是想说，一直呆在国内的大多数人，都被cctv，zxb洗脑了，当然在没有意识到的情况下，出来看看你才能看到cctv镜头外的真实世界。

-- by 会员 bigcool (2011/11/6 14:19:49)

-- by 会员 LBSMIF (2011/11/6 21:43:51)

ahwang

很多事情要发生在自己身上才有切身体会
对于很多人来说，活的有尊严要更加重要

Perhaps you young people have not stagyed overseas long enough to understand the pain of being migrant workers and being second class citizens.

No matter how hard we are working, we could only obtain a little share of the value that we created. The lion share of the value will go into the pocket of the host countries. This is their land, never be Chinese territory.

With the same effort that we Chinese have been contributing to other countries and other peoples, we can certainly make a huge improvement and achieve a leap forward progress to Chinese social development, including to narrow the social inequality, to upgrade social services, and to overcome many other challenges we are having. Things can be changed. We got to make it happened and make it better rather than escaping from our inherent responsibilities as cowards.

You young PPs do not understand the point simply because you are too naive to have the brain. You idiots are not only brain-washed by CNN, BBC, but also born in that wicked way. I could not be bothered to stopping you from kissing the ass of American, European or even Black people. To a few of you low quality Chinese, whoever can through the tiny little money to you, they are more important than your parents, than your grandparents and than your Chinese ancestors.

You can keep on kissing the ass of American, European, Arabic and Blacks, . I suggest you to do it better, that is, to eat the shit of American. That will prove how wonderful you are as prawns of anti-China scum.

纯粹煽情，没有任何价值，连五毛都不值。我不是反党反人类，只是实事求是。五毛说人家带着财富移居海外是不爱国的表现，真是无厘头。感情呆在大陆被你们愚弄剥削压榨就是高尚的，人家有能力去追求更好的生活环境就是卑劣的。换了五毛，五毛他也不干啊。说在他乡遭遇战火或遇不幸会产生回国的想法也是没脑，我倒遇到好几个在国外打拼的国人，在他乡遇到战乱求助五星红旗大使馆的时候被拒之门外，反倒是不搭边的法国大使馆提供了保护。有个朋友丢了护照去找大使馆，人家说p民的这种小事不要来麻烦使馆，这里是为领导服务的。最后求爷爷告奶奶才给解决问题。我只是想说，一直呆在国内的大多数人，都被cctv，zxb洗脑了，当然在没有意识到的情况下，出来看看你才能看到cctv镜头外的真实世界。

-- by 会员 bigcool (2011/11/6 14:19:49)

-- by 会员 LBSMIF (2011/11/6 21:43:51)