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JerryGuan

呵呵，好久没有参加语法的讨论了。难得的好贴，我也发表一下我的看法：

关于此题，我有80%的把握是D，20%是A。

初看A时没有错误，但看到D时，我很满意！为什么？

因为：D说得很清楚，只有相同条件下，比较才有意义，也就是说：只有在马车载同样多的人时，比较出来其他的条件。而A（虽然语法不一定错）割裂了这个完整的意思。正如luoffice说的这样：

以下是引用luoffice在2004-6-29 5:19:00的发言：

If A were "Minivans carry as many as seven passengers, and compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less,", I would choose A

well, after thinking it over, I would still choose D even A were modified.

reason: The sentence wanted to emphasize that "minivan is better than suv". In D, it used attributive "carrying......" to define minivan which can do the same as suv can, and used adverbial "compared with......" to indicate that comparisons are followed. In A, "carry......" is just a statement has nothing to do with the comparison.

look at this one:

Compared with most sport utility vehicles, minivans, which can carry as many as seven passengers, cost less, get better gas mileage, allow passengers to get in and out more easily, and have a smoother ride.

两个修饰语修饰1个名词，中间加逗号隔开是可以的，见：

以下是引用lucre在2004-7-19 8:51:00的发言：

仔细想了想，A的并列嵌套从语法上来讲也许有道理，但个人感觉是在abuse English，至少我在写文章时会尽量避免这种结构。而D，在主语后面跟上一大串并列修饰结构在英语里是很常见的。如大全951

            A substance from the licorice plant, 50 times sweeter than sucrose, was recently discovered, is not only a natural sweetener but also prevents tooth decay.

(A) A substance from the licorice plant, 50 times sweeter than sucrose, was recently discovered

(B) A substance, which was recently discovered, from the licorice plant, 50 times sweeter than sucrose,

(C) A substance from the licorice plant, which was recently discovered to be 50 times sweeter than sucrose,

(D) A substance from the licorice plant, 50 times sweeter than sucrose , which was recently discovered,（B）

(E) A recently discovered substance, 50 times sweeter than sucrose from the licorice plant,

关于这个并列修饰问题，以前讨论过。。。

从句子整体意思出发，就可以轻松解这道题了。

我一直有这样的体会：

做语法让人沉浸在细节中，容易在分析各个关系的潜心中，忘了句子的整体意思。

[此贴子已经被作者于2004-10-2 22:34:47编辑过]

woodorstone

我觉得应该是D。

同意楼上，我觉得D没有问题，很好。

不能太钻进去而出不来，

gmat语法让我们了解：the system of English grammar and its convention,errors that effect clarity, and techniques of effective sentences. 然后，能写出（而不是读懂）漂亮的句子，因此，不妨多站在一个写者的角度考虑如何安排一个句子。

JerryGuan

楼上的，你怎么用了我以前的头像，可知，我才是JERRY！！！

woodorstone

呵呵，我也很喜欢jerry, 难道只许你用？

dream1111

A,

The order of structure of 'Minivans, carrying as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, ' in D obviously is not one we like. Does anyone ever see an example like this? At least there should be an 'AND' between 'passengers', and 'compared ' in D.

I think A is good one in terms of grammar, as well as logic .

似水年华

Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less, get better gas mileage, allow passengers to get in and out more easily, and have a smoother ride.

选项A, 我们把compared with most sport utility vehicles去掉：

Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and cost less, get better gas mileage, allow passengers to get in and out more easily, and have a smoother ride.

多了一个and.

所以个人浅见，答案是D.

byebyelove

OG.190. Manifestations of Islamic political militancy in the first period of religious reformism were the rise of the Wahhabis in Arabia, the Sanusi in Cyrenaica, the Fulani in Nigeria, the Mahdi in the Sudan, and the victory of the Usuli “mujtahids” in Shiite Iran and Iraq.

(A) Manifestations of Islamic political militancy in the first period of religious reformism were the rise of the Wahhabis in Arabia, the Sanusi in Cyrenaica, the Fulani in Nigeria, the Mahdi in the Sudan, and

(B) Manifestations of Islamic political militancy in the first period of religious reformism were shown in the rise of the Wahhabis in Arabia, the Sanusi in Cyrenaica, the Fulani in Nigeria, the Mahdi in the Sudan, and also

(C) In the first period of religious reformism, manifestations of Islamic political militancy were the rise of the Wahhabis in Arabia, of the Sanusi in Cyrenaica, the Fulani in Nigeria, the Mahdi in the Sudan, and

(D) In the first period of religious reformism, manifestations of Islamic political militancy were shown in the rise of the Wahhabis in Arabia, the Sanusi in Cyrenaica, the Fulani in Nigeria, the Mahdi in the Sudan, and（E）

(E) In the first period of religious reformism, Islamic political militancy was manifested in the rise of the Wahhabis in Arabia, the Sanusi in Cyrenaica, the Fulani in Nigeria, and the Mahdi in the Sudan, and in

I think there should be ","before first" and"

Such as OG190 (E)

almarabbit01

我支持stoneren， 此题选D

looook

从第1页,看到9页,感觉象stoneren一派和LES一派的对决啊, 而且象小说一样激烈,精彩. 本以为stoneren后来会再来总结一次的,可是看到最后,也没看到,失望中…, 不过我是stoneren一派.
支持D
A和D都不是完美的. A中前后关系不够清楚,D中compared...离修饰的名词太远.
我觉得JerryGuan的理解很好,个人也认为本句的逻辑意思是: 载着同样是7个乘客的M,比起大部分运动用车辆, cost less.,…… (其实这是常识, 任何车型的比较都要考虑载荷, 行驶路面,时速等因素, 比如很多人说日本小车好,省油,但如果让它拉满5个大人,在高速上跑180, 那才叫老牛拉破车. 扯远了.)
D是这个逻辑意思的很好的表示, 就是说carrying…是用来表示在什么条件下比较. 而如果能把Carrying…提前( Carrying as many as seven passengers, Minivans, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less,)或把它前面的逗号去掉(Minivans carrying as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less,)会更好.
而A没有表示出这种逻辑意思. stoneren也提到如果把”passengers and,”变成 “passengers but,” 从逻辑上变成一种对比关系,可以接受.
但A V1 and V2, V3, V4 and V5中在语法上讲就是V1,V2小平行,然后又和V3,V4,V5组成平行,而无法理解出V2, V3, V4, V5小平行,又和V1形成大平行. 如果如LES所说V2, V3, V4, and V5是后面又一个句子的省略形式,那么后面的句子应该是用”, and”开始,不应该是在前面句子后面附件一个and, 并且实际上这样做也不可行,因为句子变成了Minivans carry as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, and cost less, get better gas mileage, allow passengers to get in and out more easily, and have a smoother ride. compared with就变的无所是从了.当然如果是Minivans carry as many as seven passengers, and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less, get better gas mileage, allow passengers to get in and out more easily, and have a smoother ride.同样compared with也很很怪.

open to discuss.

hiddragon

以下是引用stoneren在2004-6-21 1:43:00的发言：
这道题如果要选A，and至少应该被替换为but

我想and和but都是连词，既然可以用but,那么也可以用and.

vote A.