一个语法考点的总结！（Like和As）

andrew_li

Tell it like it is. It’s like I said. I remember it like it was yesterday. As these familiar examples show, like is often used as a conjunction meaning “as” or “as if.” In fact, writers since Chaucer’s time have used like as a conjunction. But language critics and writing handbooks have condemned this use of like for more than a century, and a writer who uses it in formal style risks being tarred with their brush. If you want to avoid this fate, use as or as if instead: Sales of new models rose as (not like) we expected them to. He ran as if (not like) his life depended on it. Note, however, that there is sometimes a subtle difference between like and as if. With like, there is often a stronger suggestion that the following clause is true. For example, the sentence The teachers treat her like she has real talent is not exactly equivalent to The teachers treat her as if she had real talent. The sentence using as if implies that her talent could be in doubt.

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Like is acceptable as a conjunction when used in informal contexts, especially with verbs such as feel, look, seem, sound, and taste: It looks like we are in for a rough winter. Constructions in which the verb is not expressed, such as He took to politics like a duck to water, are acceptable even in formal style, since like in this case can be viewed as a preposition.

我爱欧洲

以下是引用dxwei2008在2004-4-28 15:59:00的发言：

四、高级考法

新东方补充教材，新版本93题属于as结构和like结构都符合语法规则的，难度超高。As或者like结构出现在两个逻辑分句的中间。这个时候就会产生歧义，到底这个结构是应该和前一个分句构成整体还是跟后一个分句构成整体。

Because young children do not organize their attention or perceptions systematically, like adults, they may notice and remember details that their elders ignore.

(A) like adults

(D) as adults do

我们注意到A选项和D选项都符合语法规则，也都和前面的children保持数的一致性，从纯语法规则上讲是都正确的。但是A存在歧义。我们不清楚like adults是和前一个分句构成整体还是和后一个分句构成整体。也就是不知道大人是在“do not organize”这个动作上和小孩一样还是在“may notice and remember”这个动作上和小孩一样。所以有歧义。好在前后两个分句的助动词不一样，所以可以使用as结构区分。因为as结构的助动词和前一个分句一致的话，就应该和前一个分句构成整体；同样，和后一个分句的助动词一致的话，就应该和后一个分句构成整体。

很清楚的总结，但最后我也有个问题：

“好在前后两个分句的助动词不一样”这前后两个助动词都是什么呢，是不是do和may？是不是这里用as adults do表示和前一个分句构成整体？

谢谢！！

tobytao

感谢楼主！

hongjing84

越往后的讨论越是……晕就一个字……

marc

a good job!thanks

jason00

此时的as 是放在句首，Les版主的解释很清楚，请看：

“再重申强调三点：
1.  在dangling的用法(即前后都有句子时)，可以通过补出的助动词分辨修饰对象。
2.  As 在句首不做比较连词用。
3. 比较句的前后时态可以不一样，要有各自明确的时间状语。”

但是我们经常遇到这样的句子：

As you know, David has not been well lately.

As I explained on the phone, your request will be considered at the next meeting.

As Napoleon once said, attack is the best method of defense.

这里的AS不是比较连词吗，请NN指教！

jason00

这个帖子我怎么越看越糊涂了

yaxin21

以下是引用jason00在2006-1-16 22:38:00的发言：

此时的as 是放在句首，Les版主的解释很清楚，请看：

“再重申强调三点：
1.  在dangling的用法(即前后都有句子时)，可以通过补出的助动词分辨修饰对象。
2.  As 在句首不做比较连词用。
3. 比较句的前后时态可以不一样，要有各自明确的时间状语。”

但是我们经常遇到这样的句子：

As you know, David has not been well lately.

As I explained on the phone, your request will be considered at the next meeting.

As Napoleon once said, attack is the best method of defense.

这里的AS不是比较连词吗，请NN指教！

这几个例句你是从朗文找的吧，如果是这样的话，你可以再仔细看看朗文的解释条目，只有第一个条目才将as解释为用于比较，其他条目并不用于比较。

如果说这里是比较的话，那么拿破仑和谁进行比较呢？电话里的解释又和什么东西进行比较呢？

所以我觉得这里的as应该是举例或者引用。我们在写作时有时也会引用名人名言之类的，这些例子就有这个味道：正如拿破仑所说的……，正如我在电话里解释过的……，正如你所知道的……

FionaLiang

以下是引用joe11在2004-12-19 23:22:00的发言：

Like many self-taught artists, Perle Hessing did not begin to paint until she was well into middle age.

这里想问一下，如果把like many self-taught artists该成As many self-taught aritists do这样对不对？

或者是要改成As many self-taught artists do not, ???

如果你想把它改成以as 开头的比较结构的话，

你要用 Just as A do sth, so B do sth. 的形式。

As many artists do/don't 后无宾语，是不对的。

因为 as 是 conj. 后一般接完整句子。

以下是引用jason00在2006-1-16 22:38:00的发言：

此时的as 是放在句首，Les版主的解释很清楚，请看：

“再重申强调三点：
1.  在dangling的用法(即前后都有句子时)，可以通过补出的助动词分辨修饰对象。
2.  As 在句首不做比较连词用。
3. 比较句的前后时态可以不一样，要有各自明确的时间状语。”

请问，那以下这两种形式是不是不存在的？

1。As A do, B do sth.

2。As A do sth, B do sth.

而只有下面这一种形式呢？

Just as A do sth, so B do sth.

FionaLiang

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