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jnlvo

以下是引用JerryGuan在2004-4-26 9:23:00的发言：

第二题：the shang , as the first literate culture in east asia, is well known for its crafting ?

此题重点是搞清楚shang是什么东东，单或复？

不好懂！

mariezhu

前面有位MM说了，我也认为是商朝

dreadpower

   根据这个：first administrators 和they ，我认为shang是复数名词

mariezhu

（看了前面的their一开始就选了D，但是仔细看来D的时态又很奇怪啊）

我认为shang是集体名词

关于COLLECTIVE NOUN,找到一些解释，大家分享：

Some nouns, like committee, clergy, enemy, group, family, and team, refer to a group but are singular in form. These nouns are called collective nouns. In American usage, a collective noun takes a singular verb when it refers to the collection considered as a whole, as in The family was united on this question or The enemy is suing for peace. It takes a plural verb when it refers to the members of the group considered as individuals, as in My family are always fighting among themselves or The enemy were showing up in groups of three or four to turn in their weapons. In British usage, collective nouns are more often treated as plurals: The government have not announced a new policy. The team are playing in the test matches next week.	1
Be careful not to treat a collective noun as both singular and plural in the same construction. Thus you should say The family is determined to press its (not their) claim.	2
Collective nouns always refer to living creatures. Similar inanimate nouns, such as furniture and luggage, differ in that they cannot be counted individually. That is why you cannot buy a furniture or a luggage. These nouns are usually called mass nouns or noncount nouns. They always take a singular verb: The bedroom furniture was on sale.

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cmtn

1, C

2, D

agree with "dreadpower" that shang is a 复数名词, and be known as sth is better than be  known for

mariezhu

以下是引用cmtn在2004-4-26 11:19:00的发言：

agree with "dreadpower" that shang is a 复数名词, and be known as sth is better than be  known for

不过这里是be well known 啊，应该是be known as, be well known for

liu_9000

以下是引用summer614在2004-4-26 7:34:00的发言：

The artist renoir’s last word was “ flowers”, spoken as they arranged a bouquet of roses just picked from his garden in a vase on his bedroom windowsill

As a bouquet of roses had been just picked from his garden and was being arranged

As a bouquet of roses just picked from his garden was being arranged

During the arrangement of a bouquet of roses just picked from his garden

While they arranged a bouquet of roses that had just been picked from his garden

in addition to being china’s first administrators , in the sense that they developed a coherent bureaucracy for their empire , the first literate culture in east asia were the shang, and they were well known for crafting ornate bronze ritual vessels

the first literate culture in east asia were the shang, well known as the crafters of

the shang , as the first literate culture in east asia, is well known for its crafting

the shang were the first literate culture in east asia and are well known as the crafters of

the shang were the first literate culture in east asia and well known for its crafted

个人认为:

1, C

A, E 中的they不知道指什么. D的during看着很不爽. speak a word "during", 难道在这段时间一直说这个字? 看见C的was being不爽, 但B的had been picked 与was being一起用,不知道要表达什么时态. 只好选C了...

2. D

未划线的部分有个they, 只能用来指主语了. 虽然不知道shang 是什么东东, 但the first literate culture总不能是复数吧? 这样就去掉了A,B. C,E中的its crafting(crafted) 是单数.只能选D了.(所有的推论都是基于未划线的"they",希望楼主不要告诉说: they是笔误...)

欢迎大家指正

mariezhu

可以看看这一题，正确答案是D

1.        Under Napoleon the French were not able to organize an adequate supply system, and it was a major cause of the failure of their invasion of Russia.

(A) Under Napoleon the French were not able to organize an adequate supply system, and it

(B) The French being unable to organize an adequate supply system under Napoleon

(C) For the French under Napoleon, to be unable to organize an adequate supply system

(D) The inability of the French under Napoleon to organize an adequate supply system

(E) The French inability under Napoleon of organizing an adequate supply system.

the French，但后跟their

搜肠刮肚，原因还是觉得D时态有问题，如果有人从时态上给个解释，那小妹也就闭嘴了，heh

mariezhu

另外觉得这句话还有个逻辑意思在里面，咱们姑且认为C和D从语法上都对，来看看意思

D：in addition to being china’s first administrators , (in the sense that they developed a coherent bureaucracy for their empire) the shang were the first literate culture in east asia AND are well known as the crafters of ..

C: in addition to being china’s first administrators , the shang,( as the first literate culture in east asia), is well known for its crafting ..

个人觉得C的仅从逻辑上看也跟合理一些，妞妞们请指正

jnlvo

同感。有没有人能把这句D给翻得顺溜些？从指代角度，似乎只能是D。

但感觉the shang 很难在意思上同时满足 being china’s first administrators , (in the sense that they developed a coherent bureaucracy for their empire) ，the first literate culture in east asia AND ，和 the crafters of ..

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