Columbia or Booth?

turbo2008

I agree with Jason that due to lack of information international students rely heavily on rankings. I have visited Columbia a few times and my freshman year roommate and another one of my close friends from college graduated from Booth in ’09. I applied to only these two schools due to my friends influence and love for NYC (I have lived/worked there before). Both schools have a great finance program and it will be almost impossible to conclude whether one school provides you with better job opportunities than the other. It’s their differences that matter the most.

Why Booth: Grade non-disclosure … this was an important factor since I will have to travel back and forth to China even during the school year. My friends influence.

Why CBS: NYC is a great city to live and work and a number of my friends work there. I have been to Chicago (never visited Booth) and I did not enjoy my stay there (albeit it was for a few days). I understand that it is tough for most international applicants who have not been to the states to realize why the location matters as much as it does, but for me it is a deal breaker.

(There are also differences in the student body; however, since these differences are subjective there is no point in arguing about them.)

Fortunately, the decision was made for me. I was accepted at CBS and WL at Booth.

yvonneyvonne

有人问出这种问题，足以见得中国的学生根本不知道自己要的是什么，才会在选择学校上有这些困惑。况且LZ还没拿到，开这种贴，让大家争论，很无聊！

turbo2008

有人问出这种问题，足以见得中国的学生根本不知道自己要的是什么，才会在选择学校上有这些困惑。况且LZ还没拿到，开这种贴，让大家争论，很无聊！

-- by 会员 yvonneyvonne (2010/3/3 21:38:31)

There is nothing wrong with the topic. However, answers such as “definitely CBS” or “Booth for sure” are pointless. Like some of you in the forum I have lived/studied/worked in the US and I am open to discuss with applicants in this forum the pros and cons of these b-schools (from my perspective) … It is up to each applicant to make the decisions … and hopefully through these topics they might make more informed decisions.

taktha

to clarify, i haven't got in yet.  sorry for the false alarm.  i was just wondering which school people think is ranked the 4th.
i'm really confused by the following comment in another post:"If someone says they're in the "M7", they go to Columbia"

-- by 会员 AngelHeart (2010/3/3 7:58:28)

that's easy. neither.

-- by 会员 scion (2010/3/3 11:12:32)

Agree

cannedpineapple

i hear people giving up on Wharton to go to Columbia all the time, but haven't heard much about people giving up on Wharton to go to Booth.  Also Booth students are perceived as being socially awkward and geeky, while Columbia students are perceived as being more relationship savvy and sophisticated.

-- by 会员 AngelHeart (2010/3/3 15:11:32)

I personally know a friend (I met her at Wharton's Welcome Weekend) who then proceeded to choose Booth over Wharton.

-- by 会员 jelt2359 (2010/3/3 16:59:47)

我觉得中国人在选校时会更多考虑RANKING而非FIT.
所以,我们在听到别人拒了哈佛去了WHARTON,或者拒了WHARTON去了BOOTH会觉得很惊讶,可是说实话,这些学校,无论是SHORT-TERM还是LONG-TERM REWARD,我觉得都不会差太多.最终是要选择自己喜欢的地方,和自己更愿意交往的人一起生活.

想一想,选校某种程度上,和选老婆或者老公一样,即使对方条件再好,可是如果你们俩没有任何FEELING,在一起也不会开心吧?

-- by 会员 amorela (2010/3/3 17:02:14)

Agreed.
I know most Chinese/international applicants choose based on rankings and not fit, but I believe that's because they don't have enough information to know what else might matter. I once had this issue too, when applying for college. That's why I try to point things out (culture... you don't want to be alumni of a school you hate; grade non-disclosure; etc etc) that might be important.
As you point out, few things in life have that 'clearcut' rankings. To a guy interested in a corporate career, getting an offer from Goldman Sachs means less than a managerial position at his dream firm. To a guy greatly in love with his wife, a prettier/smarter/sweeter/richer/'better' on every other respect girl is not relevant- he will still choose his wife, who may not be the girl of other guys' dreams, but is a perfect 'fit' for him
Why should choosing a business school be different?

-- by 会员 jelt2359 (2010/3/3 17:15:15)

haha so booth and wharton are both your wives..
polygamy..

-- by 会员 wordance (2010/3/3 17:59:36)

Chicago 是初恋

amorela

Chicago 是初恋

-- by 会员 jelt2359 (2010/3/4 1:07:14)

果然人都是有了新欢不要旧爱滴~~哈

tonini

Chicago 是初恋

-- by 会员 jelt2359 (2010/3/4 1:07:14)

果然人都是有了新欢不要旧爱滴~~哈

-- by 会员 amorela (2010/3/4 1:21:13)

这叫人生若只如初见... lol.

freer

是中国的employer（甚至是美国的）看中ranking才造就了我们这么多ranking nuts，这是现实，我们只能做现实的决定。也许我们都还没有牛到保持自己个性的程度。

曾子墨在morgan stanley干了几年，根本没想过去读top MBA，转身去凤凰，追求自己真正想要的。

不过，我们也不悲哀，我们今天现实的决定，也是为了早点儿过更自我的生活。

i hear people giving up on Wharton to go to Columbia all the time, but haven't heard much about people giving up on Wharton to go to Booth.  Also Booth students are perceived as being socially awkward and geeky, while Columbia students are perceived as being more relationship savvy and sophisticated.

-- by 会员 AngelHeart (2010/3/3 15:11:32)

I personally know a friend (I met her at Wharton's Welcome Weekend) who then proceeded to choose Booth over Wharton.

-- by 会员 jelt2359 (2010/3/3 16:59:47)

我觉得中国人在选校时会更多考虑RANKING而非FIT.
所以,我们在听到别人拒了哈佛去了WHARTON,或者拒了WHARTON去了BOOTH会觉得很惊讶,可是说实话,这些学校,无论是SHORT-TERM还是LONG-TERM REWARD,我觉得都不会差太多.最终是要选择自己喜欢的地方,和自己更愿意交往的人一起生活.

想一想,选校某种程度上,和选老婆或者老公一样,即使对方条件再好,可是如果你们俩没有任何FEELING,在一起也不会开心吧?

-- by 会员 amorela (2010/3/3 17:02:14)

NeilJ

曾在MS只不过是个小A  无名小卒而已  去了凤凰就是当家的花旦 这个道理她不能不知道 在凤凰她赚的也绝对不比在MS少

是不是追求想要的 这个事情不足以作为论据

是中国的employer（甚至是美国的）看中ranking才造就了我们这么多ranking nuts，这是现实，我们只能做现实的决定。也许我们都还没有牛到保持自己个性的程度。

曾子墨在morgan stanley干了几年，根本没想过去读top MBA，转身去凤凰，追求自己真正想要的。

不过，我们也不悲哀，我们今天现实的决定，也是为了早点儿过更自我的生活。

i hear people giving up on Wharton to go to Columbia all the time, but haven't heard much about people giving up on Wharton to go to Booth.  Also Booth students are perceived as being socially awkward and geeky, while Columbia students are perceived as being more relationship savvy and sophisticated.

-- by 会员 AngelHeart (2010/3/3 15:11:32)

I personally know a friend (I met her at Wharton's Welcome Weekend) who then proceeded to choose Booth over Wharton.

-- by 会员 jelt2359 (2010/3/3 16:59:47)

我觉得中国人在选校时会更多考虑RANKING而非FIT.
所以,我们在听到别人拒了哈佛去了WHARTON,或者拒了WHARTON去了BOOTH会觉得很惊讶,可是说实话,这些学校,无论是SHORT-TERM还是LONG-TERM REWARD,我觉得都不会差太多.最终是要选择自己喜欢的地方,和自己更愿意交往的人一起生活.

想一想,选校某种程度上,和选老婆或者老公一样,即使对方条件再好,可是如果你们俩没有任何FEELING,在一起也不会开心吧?

-- by 会员 amorela (2010/3/3 17:02:14)

-- by 会员 freer (2010/3/4 11:45:03)

amorela

曾子墨在morgan stanley干了几年，根本没想过去读top MBA，转身去凤凰，追求自己真正想要的。

我很好奇,你怎么知道曾去凤凰就一定是追求自己的心? 恐怕是不是FOLLOW HER HEART也只有她自己知道了.媒体的报道未必就是真实的.