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<Guillermo> Hi! I guess I am the first one
<Jennifer_Admissions> Welcome David!
<DavidTsui> hi
<Jennifer_Admissions> We have some Career Management Staff here to answer your questions, I will let them introduce themselves.
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<Jennifer_Admissions> Welcome Changhua!
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<Changhua> Good evening, dear all.
<Jennifer_Admissions> Welcome Bhagat1
<Jennifer_Admissions> We have folks here from Career Management who will be happy
to answer any questions you may have.
<bhagat1> Hello and good evening to all
<Angela_CareerCtr> Good evening! As the director of Corporate Relations, it is my
pleasure to be with you this evening. We hope we can answer your questions related to career issues...
<Changhua> Hi, will we chat with only text message, or voice chat as well?
<Jennifer_Admissions> Just with text message.
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<DavidTsui> I have a question regarding the housing arrangements
<Jennifer_Admissions> Yes, David?
<DavidTsui> How late is too late to secure on-campus housing for Fall admission?
<Jennifer_Admissions> Welcome Applicant 18
<applicant18> What is the best accomodation for a single to live near the campus?
<Harriette_Career> Hello Everyone. I am a counselor in the Career Management Center, too. My specialty is assisting students with the tools, attitudes, and professional presence they need to identify, pursue, and land the internships and full time positions they desire. I look forward to meeting you and working with you.
<Guillermo> I will participate in the MS in Finance program and would like to know about the job oportunities in Investment Banking/Equity research for international students like me. I am from Mexico
<Jennifer_Admissions> _Housing is a lottery and the application deadline is in early May
<bhagat1> Has any changes and or improvements been made to attract more corporate
recruiters
<Changhua> In job market, generally, what are the strength and weakness of Asian students, especially Chinese students when they are compared with local American and European students, if possible?
<applicant18> How can I increase the scolarship in Simon ?
<Jennifer_Admissions> The best accomodations to live near the campus are any of the
apartments nearby. In a couple of days, the Admissions office will send an e-mail to you...
<applicant18> what % of women will enroll in the MBA program?
<Jennifer_Admissions> which details the housing possibilities and gives specifics about
apartment complexes
<DavidTsui> ic
<applicant18> tks
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<Jennifer_Admissions> 18, could you tell me more about your scholarship question?
<Jennifer_Admissions> Welcome JSuarez!
<Jennifer_Admissions> We have Career Management Staff on hand to answer any
questions you may have
<Harriette_Career> Changhua, in general our experience is that Chinese students have
excellent work experience. The one area that you will need to concentrate on is oral and
written communication...
<DavidTsui> also, I understand that the deposit of $1,500 is due by April 15. Will that deposit be forfeited if I decide not to attend later on?
<applicant18> I would like to know if is it possible to talk do admission office and try to
increase the scholarship?
<Angela_CareerCtr> Hi Guillermo. Most banking institutions work cross continents, so your ability to speak and work in various areas will be helpful.
<Jennifer_Admissions> 18, the percentage of women is about 25%
<Angela_CareerCtr> The banking environment continues to consolidate, so showing your knowledge of the industry will differentiate you.
<applicant18> tks
<DavidTsui> Do any of the companies from the West Coast recruit at U of R?
<Angela_CareerCtr> The Meliora Fund has been a fantastic way for students to build good analysis skills while a student.
<applicant18> How difficult is a alumni from Simon to compete against Wharton, Chivago ? How the recruteirs see Simon ?
<Changhua> Harriette, it is ok to communicate for me after my 6 years' oversea, then what should be my strategy to select the right MBA courses in order to be competitive in job market?
<Angela_CareerCtr> Dear Bhagat, The CMC has implemented a new strategy for making outreach to corporate America.
<Guillermo> Angela, what is the school experience with international positions. Do you
succedd in placing the students with the top Investments Banks or the competition from
other schools is to large
<Angela_CareerCtr> With a recession our retention companies melted away, and we
need to rebuild this base.
<applicant18> Is it the campus wireless with internet access?
<Angela_CareerCtr> We are targeting a broadbase of companies, as noted by corporate
ranking systems.
<Jennifer_Admissions> 18, the Simon School is wireless.
<Angela_CareerCtr> We are using face-face visits, direct mailing campaigns, and
telephone campaigns to support this effort.
<applicant18> Total internet access ? What laptop do you recommend?
<Angela_CareerCtr> We are seeing an increase in postings, and interviews to support
final placement for students.
<Guillermo> So, you think that it will hard to get a job when I finish in 2005
<Jennifer_Admissions> David, regarding your deposit question, the deposit is not
refundable because it's credited toward your first quarter tuition.
<Harriette_Career> Changhua, course selection in the first quarter is done for you. After
that you have increasingly more latitude. Students research their preferred industries and
fields to identify the courses they should take.
<bhagat1> Dear Angela, how was the NYCRP this year
<Angela_CareerCtr> Guillermo and Applicant 18, The job market is picking up, with more companies seeking talent.
<Angela_CareerCtr> In a recent benchmarking initiative, we found that companies thought of Simon students as very talented.
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<Changhua> Is there any service center in Simon which I can consult with and get detailed advice from on this issue?
<Angela_CareerCtr> To achieve this high praise, we work to ensure that our students are
able to present themselves in a 'polished' manner.
<Angela_CareerCtr> Changhua,
<Angela_CareerCtr> Once your deposits are paid to Simon, we do open up services to
assure you are preparing your job search plan.
<Angela_CareerCtr> We really pay attention to the saying "the early bird gets the worm"!!
<Angela_CareerCtr> For an MBA job search you should start now.
<Angela_CareerCtr> David, We are working to build our corporate interest in the West
Coast.
<Angela_CareerCtr> The historic data shows that only 5% of our students accept offers
on the West Coast.
<bhagat1> What advise do you have for career switchers, Engineering to Finance
<Angela_CareerCtr> But we one of our largest alumni pools on the West Coast.
Our new dean has some great contacts from his years at USC and Arizonia.
<Changhua> Angela, when can I get your admission, since I need to plan my job
handover for my company?
<Angela_CareerCtr> Bhagat,
<Jennifer_Admissions>
Welcome Jin. Today we have members of the Career
Management Staff on hand to answer your questions.
<Harriette_Career> Changhua, the counselors in the CMC teach students how to
6,0research industries and career fields, how to talk to alumni and professionals in their 6,0preferred fields to learn what they need.
<Angela_CareerCtr>
As an engineer, you will find it an easy transfer.
<jin> normally, when will be the internship for full time students? the first summer?
<Angela_CareerCtr>
Companies have a high interest due to your potential
mathematical expertise.
<jin> hi jennifer
<Harriette_Career>
6,0HEllo Jin. Students who enter Simon in the fall search for
6,0internships in the following summer.
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<Jennifer_Admissions>
Welcome Henry!
<Jennifer_Admissions>
We have staff on hand from the Career Management
Center to answer any questions you may have.
<Henry> I use dial up here and it is very slow
<Henry> Hi, Jennifer, nice to see you here
<bhagat1> How did the current Simon Students fare at this years NYCPR and with
their job/internship searches
<Jennifer_Admissions>
Henry, I understand how slow Dial-up can be. Good to see
you as well.
<jin> thanks. i have question on that five week language class. i have been living in
canada for five years. and traveled extensively to US and used to work in CA. i
am talking to my clients all the time at work. although i am an international
student. and i am sure the programe is helpful. but for me i donot think i can get a
lot compare to staying at my job for antoher five weeks. can i pass that programe
and come to campus in Sep
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<Henry> Is there any difference in the placement between MBA and MS. since I will
be in MS program I want to know this.
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<Angela_CareerCtr>
Bhagat, we had 19 companies participating at the 2004
NYRP. Companies are finalizing offers as we speak.
<Guillermo> I have the same question as Henry regarding MS vs MBA. At least for
the MS in Finance, you are supposed to already hold an MBA, so I guess the
expected salary should be higher. What has been the experience with the MS
graduates
<Guillermo> Also, where are the MS in Finance graduates working. I guess the
information you have on the web page is about MBAs
<Henry> Hi, Guillermo, are you going to be in MS this fall too?
<Guillermo> Yes, I am planning to be a future MS
<Angela_CareerCtr>
Guillermo, Due to the small number of students represented
in the MS program, we do not publish information on their placement. The data
numbers would represent the individual person so we do not publish the data.
<Henry> Great, I will join the MS finance in Sept.
<bhagat1> Hi Jennifer, do you know when the accepted student web site would be
online for Class of 2006
<Henry> Jennifer, I did not get the access code to visit the accepted student web.
<Jennifer_Admissions>
Henry, we are still finalizing the site. I hope to have the
password out tomorrow or Thursday at the latest. Sorry for the delay.
<Guillermo> Angela, but do you know if most of them are working on Wall Street, Do
they continued into the PhD in Finance program?
<Jennifer_Admissions>
Bhagat, the Accepted Student site should be ready by
tomorrow or the following day. We will send an e-mail to you with the password.
Sorry for the delay.
<jin> the password for today's chatting window is not the one you are talking about
right?
<Jennifer_Admissions>
Jin, no, that is actually a different password
<Angela_CareerCtr>
Guillermo, there is a great contact at Citigroup Global
Markets who may be able to give you advice on how to transition. Contact me at
my Simon account for details.
<Jennifer_Admissions>
So, what other questions may we answer for you?
<Guillermo> Thanks Angela, I will do
<Changhua> Among the serviecs provided by Simon school, which one is the most
useful to MBA students?
<Henry> How many students will be in the MS finance program this fall?
<Guillermo> Henry, here is my e-mail if you want to stay in touch:
12guillermo.rodriguez@baximports.com
<Jennifer_Admissions>
Henry, it's actually too early in the process to tell, but
generally we have between 10-15 MS students and most of them come from
finance but some are studying other areas as well
<Henry> Guillermo, here is mine
12hxq16[在] yahoo.com
, thanks
<DavidTsui> What would you say separates the Simon school's MBA from other
MBA programs. Simon has a strong finance program. How do the students
usually fair competing against other candidates who also want to work on Wall
Street?
<Angela_CareerCtr>
Changhua, Each student has individual needs, and
therefore each student perceives 'most useful' differently. One of the best
services is our ability to work with you individually to personalize service delivery.
<Angela_CareerCtr>
David, Historically we have had a good success rate for
placement, but the numbers are low. If you are interested in a career on Wall
Street, do as much reading as you can now.
<Henry> Are the professors accessible to students outside classrooms?
<Harriette_Career>
6,0Changhua, Angela is right. And you will change - actually
6,0transofrm - during your two years with us. Understandably, the services that you
6,0think are #1 will change over time.
<Jennifer_Admissions>
David, I think one area that is truly an asset at Simon is
our small size and our ability to give you one on one assistance from Admissions
through the job search.
<Henry> Angela, I don't quite understand your anwser regarding the placement
numbers, you mean they are low for right now, or just for WS jobs?
<Jennifer_Admissions>
Henry: Professors each have office hours they designate
reserved for students
<Jennifer_Admissions>
But in addition, professors are always available in
impromptu ways, such as during student coffee hours, and others
<Angela_CareerCtr>
Henry, the percentage of students accepting Wall
Street/investment banking jobs from Simon is low, with a historical number
ranging to 10%
<Angela_CareerCtr>
Opportunities on Wall Street continue to be small in
number, and with consolidation that trend is continuing.
<Changhua> Harriette, generally, how much does an international student have to
spend for the 1st year and the 2nd year of MBA at Simon?
<Henry> Angela, how about other sectors of jobs, e.g., asset management or
trading?
<Angela_CareerCtr>
Henry, you will find the numbers for asset management
continue to increase, but the trend for trading jobs matches that of investment
banking.
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<Jennifer_Admissions>
Changhua, we generally estimate $33 thousand, per
year but the updated estimates will be released online soon
<Jennifer_Admissions>
Welcome Juan!
<Jennifer_Admissions>
Tonight we have staff from the Career Management
Center on hand to answer any questions you may have.
<Juan> Thank you, hello to everybody
<Henry> Are most placement in the North East?
<Angela_CareerCtr>
Henry, In 2003 we placed 57% of students in the Northeast
& MidAtlantic, 14% in the Midwest, 5% in the South, 6% in the West, and 18%
Abroad.
<Angela_CareerCtr>
This information is located in the placement report available
on-line.
<jin> any more question?
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<Harriette_Career>
6,0David, there are so many interesting things to do around
6,0Rochester if you want to get to know "Simon country" before you start classes. I
6,0can refer you to websites to check out options.
<DavidTsui> Thanks
<Harriette_Career>
6,0David, you also can focus on completing the resume,
6,0reading, and other assignments we request. They should be done by Sept. 1st.
<Changhua> When is the deadline to arrive Simon for registration?
<Guillermo> Thanks for the information. Good bye!
<Jennifer_Admissions>
Bye, thanks for coming!
<Juan> Do you know if there are any possibilities to making TA or RA in the MBA
programs?
<Jennifer_Admissions>
Changhua, you will need to be on campus before
September 7. We suggest arriving no later than September 1
<Jennifer_Admissions>
For students who are required to take the English
Language course, you would need to be here at the end of July
<Harriette_Career>
6,0To everyone interested in Rochester activities, here are a
6,0few websites:
12www.rochesterevents.com;
www.westernny.com;
www.ci.rochester.ny.us; www.cityofrochester.gov.
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<Changhua> Is it common to get Visas endorsement from a third coutry since I am
working oversea?
<Jennifer_Admissions>
In your admissions letter, you will find out if you are
required to take the English program.
<Jennifer_Admissions>
Welcome MNorm46
<mnorm46> Hi.
<Jennifer_Admissions>
Changhua, that is a question for our International
Student Office. We will put you in contact with them shortly
<Jennifer_Admissions>
Juan: (TA/RA)Opportunities to have an assistantship of some sort are reserved for second year students because the first year is very intense.
<Jennifer_Admissions>
But, in the second year, students often take on graduate
assistantships or research assistantships.
<mnorm46> What is the next step I need to take to apply for student loans/financial
aid.
<Jennifer_Admissions>
Norm, In your admissions packet, you should receive
information on forms to fill out should you be requesting loans.
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<Jennifer_Admissions>
Are you from the US, NOrm?
<Juan> In the admission letter you talk of an ISO Booklet, where can I find it?
<mnorm46> Yes. New Jersey.
<bhagat1> Jennifer and Angella thanks for all the information, go to run for now
Thanks Bhagat
<Jennifer_Admissions>
It will be posted on the International Student office
website in mid-March, but it should be in your admissions packet
<Jennifer_Admissions>
Thanks Bhagat! Have a good day
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<Jennifer_Admissions>
Norm, I would say to fill out the FAFSA form, which is
your preliminary form for financial aid and loans. The university financial aid office
can help you with any questions.
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<Jennifer_Admissions>
http://www.rochester.edu/living/services/financial/financialaid/
<Jennifer_Admissions>
This is the website for Financial Aid.
<Jennifer_Admissions>
Oh, Norm...are you Mike
<Harriette_Career>
6,0Juan, you can email questions to ISO at
6,0
12questions@iso.rochester.edu.
You can also see information about them at
www.iso.rochester.edu. about them at this
<mnorm46> Thanks. Yes. I am Mike.
<Jennifer_Admissions>
Hi Mike!
<mnorm46> How are you Jennifer?
<Jennifer_Admissions>
good, thanks for coming to the chat.
<Jennifer_Admissions>
If you have any questions for Career Management, they
are a great resource and very helpful
<Changhua> Thanks for all the information, it time for me to leave.
<Jennifer_Admissions>
Changhua, please feel free to e-mail me with further
questions:
12 slattery-bownds@simon.rochester.edu
<Changhua> Thanks, Jennifer! Bye!
<Jennifer_Admissions>
bye
<mnorm46> I'm actually interested in trying to land an internship before the first term.
Who should I direct this question to?
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<Angela_CareerCtr>
Mike, aka Norm, what kind of functional position are you
seeking?
<DavidTsui> I am public accounting now and would like to switch to a career in
investment management. What companies/jobs should I target right after the
MBA program? What internships are available to Simon students in the past
years?
<Angela_CareerCtr>
David, Many students sought opportunities in buyside firms.
There are several local companies that support internships, and we are working
on national accounts like Fidelity and T Rowe Price.
<DavidTsui> what is the success rate of students who are interested in working for
buyside firms getting an internship with them?
<DavidTsui> any reading or preparation advice?
<Angela_CareerCtr>
David, Vault and WetFeet provide some great insights.
<DavidTsui> Also, would it be possible that you give me the names of the company
so I can do some research on them?
<Angela_CareerCtr>
With the Simon Meliora Fund, David, you will be able to get
some great experience at Simon
<Angela_CareerCtr>
David, On WetFeet and Vault you will find listings of
buyside companies where you can begin your searching.
<DavidTsui> I would love to join the Fund but I thought only 20 members/students
can actively participate
<Angela_CareerCtr>
David, There are a lot of analysts who research the firms,
but only a small number are on the actual decision team for the fund management.
<DavidTsui> How are the decision team members being picked?
<DavidTsui> I am also interest in the Simon Investment Club and the Consulting
Club. How many clubs does an average student participate in?
<Harriette_Career> David, most of the students I work with join at least one club, usually the ones that are most relevant to their careers.
<Harriette_Career> Many students join 2 or more. Joining one or two clubs allows you to take on a leadership role in one. This is an important differentiator in the recruiting process.
<DavidTsui> Any recruiting trips to the West Coast?
<Angela_CareerCtr>
David, student clubs sponsor trips to different cities and locations.
<Angela_CareerCtr>
The school supports these efforts in a few ways, from
corporate contacts to limited monetary support.
<Angela_CareerCtr>
The HTML Club and Consulting Club continue to visit the
West Coast. We also participate in the MBA Consortium Activities in LA
<Angela_CareerCtr>
Mike, hello....I would be pleased to give you some ideas.
<mnorm46> Post-grad I'd like to get into banking. I'm currently in operations so
anything that would help me make the transition over the next two years.
<Angela_CareerCtr>
Mike, are you thinking IB?
<mnorm46> Yes
<Angela_CareerCtr>
Mike, there are some local firms that offer internships, but
you will find it difficult to manage your first two quarters and do an internship.
<mnorm46> I was thinking over the summer like your trad. intern. Trying to get a
head start.
<Angela_CareerCtr>
Also do a google search to find listings.
<Angela_CareerCtr>
Mike, it might be tough. You probably through your
personal contacts you could get a non-paid internship.
<mnorm46> Thanks everybody. Talk to you soon.
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<DavidTsui> Are there any recruiting trips sponsored by the Simon school?
<Juan> In the case of an international student, you would suggest him to be in Rochester
before the MBA begins? An if that it's the case, doing what?
<DavidTsui> Any recruiting trips to the West Coast?
<Angela_CareerCtr> David, student clubs sponsor trips to different cities and locations.
<Angela_CareerCtr> The school supports these efforts in a few ways, from corporate
contacts to limited monetary support.
<Jennifer_Admissions> Juan: Depending on whether or not you have been
required/recommended to attend the English Language program, that will likely be the
largest factor on when you arrive in Rochester
<Angela_CareerCtr> The HTML Club and Consulting Club continue to visit the West
Coast. We also participate in the MBA Consortium Activities in LA
<Juan> Ok thank you for all your answers, goodbye to everybody
<Jennifer_Admissions> The international orientation takes place on September 7 with
other workshops following prior to the official start of pre-term.
<DavidTsui> Thank you for all your help. I look forward to meeting all of you in late
March.
<Jennifer_Admissions>
Thanks David! We look forward to it too
<Jennifer_Admissions>
Good bye Juan...thanks for coming
<DavidTsui> Is there an onsite Simon souvenir store?
<DavidTsui> want to buy a Simon sweater
<Jennifer_Admissions>
David, there is a link on the web...hold on and I'll find it
<Jennifer_Admissions>
http://cooley.onet.net/cgi-bin/upgrade/common/login.cgi?userName=simon
&password=simon
<Jennifer_Admissions>
http://www.simon.rochester.edu/alumni/alumni_network.aspx
<Jennifer_Admissions>
The second link will be the alumni page where you
should find the link to the Simon Virtual Store