求教：难句分析！

JerryGuan

以下是我在看的一篇文章，两句不明，请指教：



And often it is necessary for our natural powers of observation to be supplemented by the most intricate of mechanical aids for a given object to become "empirical" in the sense just used.


to become 是修饰to be supplemented?



That social behavior does not lend itself to as quick and accurate description as, say, chemical behavior of gases and compounds does not mean that social roles, statuses, and attitudes are nay less emprical than molecules and tissues.


does not mean that的主语是？

carawayt

1、应该是他的目的状语


2、主语是主语从句（That....），谓语does not mean，后面THAT是宾语从句

smm969672

to become "empirical" 是句子中的it。to be supplemented by....修饰observation。


全句意思是：


从刚用到的意义来说，我们的对一个指定物体辅以最精密机械帮助的自然观察能力，变成“经验主义的”是必须的。

JerryGuan

多谢两位，但还存一问：


And often it is necessary for our natural powers of observation to be supplemented by the most intricate of mechanical aids for a given object to become "empirical" in the sense just used.


这里的for是什么作用？

cranberry

我的理解是“若使一个客体成为刚刚用到的意义上的经验主义的，对我们观察的自然能力来说，最精密复杂的机械的帮助应该是必要的。”

smm969672

And often it is necessary for our natural powers of observation to be supplemented by the most intricate of mechanical aids for a given object to become "empirical" in the sense just used.

    

            全句结构：             it +系动词+形容词+for+名词/代词+to do sth

    

这里的关键to do sth是指 to be supplemented by ....还是 to     become ...如是前者，则for表目的，语意不合逻辑，指定的物体怎能“empirical", empirical的意思是：

1 : originating in or based on observation or experience <empirical data>
2 : relying on experience or observation alone often without due regard for system and theory.

    

所以这里的to do sth只能是to become. for a given object 指observation的对象。


这里的empirical加引号，是正话反说，因为observation的时候，to be supplemented by the most intricate of mechanical ards, 实际上不完全是empirical.

cranberry

我的想法是：如果object    是观察的对象，那介词应该用OF而不是FOR，另外，之所以用引号，绝对不是反说之意，而是，刚刚被用到的意思可能和通常的意思不同，因此被用来特指。而且，按你的理解，似乎中文意思并非是讲的通的，什么是经验主义是必须的，我们的观察为什么要变成经验主义的哪，这个刚用到的意义，到底指的是谁的刚用到的意义呢？

JerryGuan

The order of reality that interests the scientists is the empirical order, that is, the order of data and phenomena revealed to us through observation or experience. To be precise or explicit about what is, and is not, revealed by observation is not always easy, to be sure. And often it is necessary for our natural powers of observation to be supplemented by the most intricate of mechanical aids for a given object to become "empirical" in the sense just used. That the electron is not as immediately visible as is the mountain range does not mean, obviously, that it is any less empirical. That social behavior does not lend itself to as quick and accurate description as, say, chemical behavior of gases and compounds does not mean that social roles, statuses, and attitudes are nay less emprical than molecules and tissues.


我给你们的讨论弄糊涂了：（         Anyway, 我还是以我自己对本句子的理解。to become 是修饰to be supplemented ，后者是it 的指代对象。不过还是不太肯定，：（

smm969672

从上下文看，我的理解有错。


to become ....为to be supplemented目的状语。后者为it.

JerryGuan

谢谢SMM969672GG的耐心指点！