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说说我的情况吧,真的是比较困惑(咨询行业mm求助)

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11#
发表于 2009-1-10 05:28:00 | 只看该作者

虽然给不出什么好建议,但短期内去美国肯定不算好选择。认识的几个在美国待了7~8年的朋友,名校MBA+n个证书的,近期都打算回国了,虽然还没被裁,但感觉朝不保夕的样子。

同意LS说的,"工作本来就是这个样子的,生活本来也就是这个样子的,无论跳到哪里久了都会倦的.享受生活和幸福感才是比工作更重要的"

12#
发表于 2009-1-11 20:49:00 | 只看该作者

大家年龄差不多,困惑也差不多吧

我做猎头的,差不多同样的问题,在国内几乎什么都有了。房子车都有,贷款想还就还,没什么太大的压力。

一直都想去读MBA,但都因为工作尚可也就迟迟未行,但年龄越大越能看清楚,上层阶级是我们远远不能用金钱的累积或者死命工作所能达到的,这个不仅是在中国的现象吧。所以虽然现在年龄已大,我也不得不选择去读MBA的决心。毕竟我不想看到几年以后的自己还是现在这个样子,真的有点——可怕。

13#
发表于 2009-1-13 10:14:00 | 只看该作者
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14#
发表于 2009-4-28 23:17:00 | 只看该作者
我求求你,你省了吧。你知道现在USA MBA毕业的行情么。。。。
15#
发表于 2009-4-29 08:25:00 | 只看该作者

我们同龄,迷惑也差不多。如果不满足这种高不成低不就的现状的话,我建议你老公搏一把

我老婆是市场研究顾问公司的,税后是20多万。有竞争公司通过猎头给她开到40w。但是她的收入是以没日没夜的加班挣来的。岁月催人老啊!我们的目标是她回家做家庭主妇。

结果我出去,她陪读。

16#
发表于 2009-4-29 18:57:00 | 只看该作者
但是跳到industry,我又能干什么呢?又会什么呢?

Depends on what you want out of industry. Some former consultants love industry and some hate it. Based on personal observations and experience, moving from an advisory role in a consulting firm to a managerial role in industry is generally associated with the following,
1. Real bottom-line responsibility - You'll start worrying about the company not hitting the Q1 target and how to make the numbers for the next quarter. Consultants don't have to worry about this
2. Internal politics - Lots of it, especially in bigger organizations. More hierarchy and less flat than consulting, where consultants could call up anyone in the organization when they had a question / idea
3. Expanded authority - You have your own headcounts and budget, and are free to use contractors and external advisors. Even partners at consulting firms don't have their own permanent staff (You know what I mean - you don't have control on who's on your project and on anyone outside the project)
4. Cross-functional coordination - You'll likely be THE expert in the role that you're hired into, e.g. marketing, but there're many other areas that you don't know, e.g. manufacturing. Decisions are made during meetings where functional managers contribute their own ideas. In consulting you'll never be THE expert in one area, as consulting firms have lots of expert globally in every sub-function, e.g. customer segmentation
5. Better work-life balance - Need to elaborate. Less travel in general, and less benefits, e.g. business class travel or attractive dinner allowance (if you value them at all)
6. More reliance on subjective judgment calls than conclusions based on analysis - People make statements start with "I think we should do xxx", rather than "based on xxx data/research, the returns of doing xxx is higher than doing yyy. Therefore we should do xxx"
7. More time spent on tactical stuff, i.e. fire-fighting. Less time on strategic stuff

It's always easier move in from a position of strength. Since you've lots of experience consulting clients, clients should have noticed your value. If your client recruits you, life would be really easy, because you'll get support from your boss and other managers. You'll also be able to negotiate to get things you want, e.g. team, newly crafted role, etc. The worst thing to do is to go in without knowing the organization, typically through search firms. As a air-dropped outsider you'll face obstacles. People will want you to fail. Also companies hiring search firms usually have high (sometimes unrealistic) expectations on what the recruit can offer, and as they have no relationships with you, they'd have no mercy on you

So my suggestion is that if you wanna move, demonstrate your greatness during projects and let your clients poach you!
17#
发表于 2009-4-29 23:24:00 | 只看该作者

我就是咨询公司去企业的,企业有好的地方,年龄越大的时候体会到好的地方越多。咨询是青春饭,老的时候还在做的话,实在是牺牲太大了,因为中年以后人的追求就更加多元化,钱只是一部分而已,还有家庭、嗜好、健康、权力、尊重。。。等等等等。并且目前看来企业的薪酬水平并不普遍低于咨询,而且有继续拉平的趋势,如果计算每小时的话就更加了。

企业如果混到C Level,各方面都肯定比咨询公司的合伙人舒服,个人感受。

18#
发表于 2009-5-2 01:20:00 | 只看该作者

这点我能理解....尤其是女生,年纪上去的话考虑的东西就多了,以后有孩子的话更加...

还是要乘年轻多做规划,多尝试!

19#
发表于 2009-5-16 17:34:00 | 只看该作者

典型的高分低能

会读书,进入了门槛要求高的咨询业,一开始可以在成熟的模式里照猫画虎,时间一长就handle不了

建议:工作和读书一样的,都要用脑的。

20#
发表于 2009-5-17 12:18:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用lddove在2009-1-11 20:49:00的发言:

大家年龄差不多,困惑也差不多吧

我做猎头的,差不多同样的问题,在国内几乎什么都有了。房子车都有,贷款想还就还,没什么太大的压力。

一直都想去读MBA,但都因为工作尚可也就迟迟未行,但年龄越大越能看清楚,上层阶级是我们远远不能用金钱的累积或者死命工作所能达到的,这个不仅是在中国的现象吧。所以虽然现在年龄已大,我也不得不选择去读MBA的决心。毕竟我不想看到几年以后的自己还是现在这个样子,真的有点——可怕。

我也有这样的想法. 公司上面的事,我这个LOCAL的真得做不到的. 所以想去进修得. 回来后比现在要发展得好些.

人啊,要与自己比,今天比昨天进步,这才是重要的. 我知道比我牛的人太多,太多.我只与自己比进步. 别人作参考吧.有时候.

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