Prep1-114 不懂為何用more so than

lemuren

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sayhello1983

好问题。不过就算懂了考试有几个人敢选C.

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beichenxuans

以下是引用aeoluseros在2009/8/10 12:19:00的发言：

so指代的是reported high marital satisfaction，而不仅仅是satisfaction.
A study on couples' retirement transitions found that women who took new jobs after retiring from their primary careers reported high marital satisfaction, more so than those who retired completely.
这句是主语+状语 vs. 主语+状语的双重比较。
umm,暂时没想到更好的该法，根据句意再写了下：
women who took new jobs after retiring from their primary careers were more likely to report high marital satisfaction than those who retired completely.

为什么不补were呢   than were those who retired completely.

than 前后都有名词 会歧义的吧
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[此贴子已经被作者于2009/9/5 14:30:59编辑过]

judyenglish

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StaceyKoprince from ManhattanGMAT

It is used in making a "more than" type of comparison where you also want to refer to a previously stated verb / action (that's where the "so" comes in). In this case, the "so" refers to "reported high marital satisfaction."

Notice here that you are comparing two groups of women: those who take new jobs, and those who retire completely. When making a comparison, you have to make sure you explicitly mention both groups.

B, C, and D don't do this. (In fact, B and D change the original meaning of the sentence to make the second part of the comparison a hypothetical - but the original meaning is that the ones who take new jobs are being compared to those who don't.)

Also remember that, for comparisons, they two things / groups / whatever compared should be parallel. "women who took" and "those who retired" are parallel. The other options aren't.

the rule i like to use here is this: if it's not a specific NOUN that can be replaced by a PRONOUN (usually "it"), then use the all-purpose replacement "...so".
perhaps the most common usage in which you'll see this is "do it" vs. "do so":
wrong: i've always wanted to jump out of a plane, but i've never had the chance to do it. --> this is wrong because the only possible antecedent for "it" is plane, and it doesn't make any sense to talk about "doing" a plane.
correct: i've always wanted to jump out of a plane, but i've never had the chance to do so. --> "do so" = jump out of a plane.

you would extend this same type of extra freedom to "more so": if the comparison isn't quite parallel, and/or is ambiguous, without the "so", then go ahead and toss it in there; it doesn't have to have a single-word antecedent

lpdeng

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妖怪毛毛

running2k

A study on couples' retirement transitions found that women who took new jobs after retiring from their primary careers reported high marital satisfaction, more than when retiring completely.



(A) more than when retiring

(B) more than if they were to retire

(C) more so than those who retired

(D) which was more so than those retiring

(E) which was more than if they had retired

个人认为此题的比较对象不是satisfaction，而是women之间的比较，但是比较结果不是谁有更高的satisfaction，而是report satisfaction的次数（我认为，除了比较对象，我们还应该关注比较结果），因为如果比较的结果是satisfaction的话，原句应该用higher来修饰它，变为我们最经常看见的比较结构的结构：women who took new jobs after retiring from their primary careers reported higher marital satisfaction, than those who retired completely.(因为原句的宾语satisfaction抽象名词，逻辑上不会跟women混淆，所以应该不用补出谓语动词）；但是原句用了more than来修饰比较结构，所以我认为比较对象应该是women who...more reported high satisfaction than so those who retired completely，就如上面的NN说得，So指代reported high satisfaction。还请各位指教，不管从哪个角度来说，我认为so都是应该紧跟后面的women who retired conpletely，这样一来so应该出现在than的后面才对，为什么出现在more than之间呢？什么语法现象？

open to discuss!

-- by 会员 Liu_leaf (2009/7/11 22:09:00)

个人比较同意这个观点，我来把原文重现一下：

more (women who took new jobs after retiring from their primary careers ) so (=reported high marital satisfaction ) than those retired completely.

这个MORE我觉得不是adv的比较次，而是数量的adj的比较词，翻译过来就是相比于那些退休后就不在工作的女士，更多的退休后又工作的女士对婚姻很满意。

jiaxizou

A study on couples' retirement transitions found that women who took new jobs after retiring from their primary careers reported high marital satisfaction, more than when retiring completely.
(A) more than when retiring

(B) more than if they were to retire

(C) more so than those who retired

(D) which was more so than those retiring

(E) which was more than if they had retired

个人认为此题的比较对象不是satisfaction，而是women之间的比较，但是比较结果不是谁有更高的satisfaction，而是report satisfaction的次数（我认为，除了比较对象，我们还应该关注比较结果），因为如果比较的结果是satisfaction的话，原句应该用higher来修饰它，变为我们最经常看见的比较结构的结构：women who took new jobs after retiring from their primary careers reported higher marital satisfaction, than those who retired completely.(因为原句的宾语satisfaction抽象名词，逻辑上不会跟women混淆，所以应该不用补出谓语动词）；但是原句用了more than来修饰比较结构，所以我认为比较对象应该是women who...more reported high satisfaction than so those who retired completely，就如上面的NN说得，So指代reported high satisfaction。还请各位指教，不管从哪个角度来说，我认为so都是应该紧跟后面的women who retired conpletely，这样一来so应该出现在than的后面才对，为什么出现在more than之间呢？什么语法现象？

open to discuss!

-- by 会员 Liu_leaf (2009/7/11 22:09:00)

个人比较同意这个观点，我来把原文重现一下：

more (women who took new jobs after retiring from their primary careers ) so (=reported high marital satisfaction ) than those retired completely.

这个MORE我觉得不是adv的比较次，而是数量的adj的比较词，翻译过来就是相比于那些退休后就不在工作的女士，更多的退休后又工作的女士对婚姻很满意。

-- by 会员 running2k (2010/1/18 10:44:27)

被楼上两位误导了好久，今天终于明了了，不过感谢两位让我更深层次认识了同位语和状语的运用。此题中的more than when retiring completely是状语结构修饰的是reported，而不是你们认为的同位语结构，同位语补充后有很多漏洞women who...和more than when...他们并不是同一类别的东西，所以more than根本无法做为同位语修饰women名词。如果对同位语是否同类有疑问，可以去研究下老prep150题。

我的看法如下：还原句子后的结构应该是women reported high marital satisfaction more than those who retired. 但是答案里面有逗号，所以还原后为women reported high marital satisfaction, more so(reported high marital satisfaction) than those who retired. 所以这里的逗号把原来和reported有联系的句子分开了，但是为了体现和reported之间的关系所以用了so=reported high marital satisfaction来表示状语的关系以免修饰不清。

看了这个贴还不是很清楚的同学可以看看另外一个帖子是专门讨论这个题趋向状语方面的。链接如下：http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-328833-1-1.html