og11-45，在OG中找到了矛盾，还没被问过。

lecherous

45. According to some analysts, the gains in the stock market reflect growing confidence that the economy
            will avoid the recession that many had feared earlier
            in the year and instead come in for a "soft landing," followed by a gradual increase in business activity.

(A)            that the economy will avoid the recession that many had feared earlier in the year and instead come

(B)           in the economy to avoid the recession, what many feared earlier in the year, rather to come

(C)           in the economy's ability to avoid the recession, something earlier in the year many had feared, and instead to come

(D)           in the economy to avoid the recession many were fearing earlier in the year, and rather to come

(E)           that the economy will avoid the recession that was feared earlier this year by many, with it instead coming

关于D为何不能用的解释是： The recession must be followed by that, were fearing is the wrong tense; rather to come does not complete the second part of the sentence idiomatically

而OG11-5中，修饰sales的定语从句前面并没有that

5.        As its sales of computer products have surpassed those of measuring instruments, the company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales they would in the past have
                    conceded to rivals.

(A)         they would in the past have conceded to rivals

(B)         they would have conceded previously to their rivals

(C)        that in the past would have been conceded previously to rivals

(D)        it previously would have conceded to rivals in the past

(E)         it would in the past have conceded to rivals

请问缘由，谢谢！

lecherous

这个问题真的很困惑。og好几次提到定语从句的that不能省略，但似乎他们自己也常常省略掉。不知道是哪些情况下该怎么做。

请牛牛们帮忙看一下好吗？

ParisTexas

45是同位语从句，that大多数情况不省（与宾语从句相似），况且这里表达的是有主谓成分的意思，更要用从句，不能用不定式。

Sorry, 看成第一个that了。第二个that是定语从句中作宾语，可省，这里不作优先判断依据。OG的解释重点是时态，以及更重要的错误（前面的不定式）。

5是定语从句，that在从句中作宾语，可省。

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lecherous

以下是引用ParisTexas在2008-7-27 13:46:00的发言：

45是同位语从句，that大多数情况不省（与宾语从句相似），况且这里表达的是有主谓成分的意思，更要用从句，不能用不定式。

Sorry, 看成第一个that了。第二个that是定语从句中作宾语，可省，这里不作优先判断依据。OG的解释重点是时态，以及更重要的错误（前面的不定式）。

5是定语从句，that在从句中作宾语，可省。

太感谢了，雪中送炭啊。

可否稍微详细讲一下，that如何做宾语的？

it would in the past have conceded to rivals，我不知道怎么把that加进去。

ParisTexas

it would in the past have conceded that (ie, the mass market sales) to rivals.

代入是以陈述句式考虑的。

lecherous

谢谢，查了一下longman，看来我对于concede这个词不了解的缘故。

再次谢谢

carriemo

以下是引用ParisTexas在2008-7-27 13:46:00的发言：

45是同位语从句，that大多数情况不省（与宾语从句相似），况且这里表达的是有主谓成分的意思，更要用从句，不能用不定式。

Sorry, 看成第一个that了。第二个that是定语从句中作宾语，可省，这里不作优先判断依据。OG的解释重点是时态，以及更重要的错误（前面的不定式）。

5是定语从句，that在从句中作宾语，可省。

为什么楼主明白了？我听了解释还是迷茫。。。

第一个that不管它，的确是同位语从句。但是OG的解释是说the recession must be followed by that啊。。 Paris对于recession后面的that和第五题里的that的解释都是“定语从句中作宾语，可省”。。。混乱了，是不是打错了啊？麻烦再解释一下。

另外谢谢楼主，都没有注意过这个问题。。。

ParisTexas

没事，坚持这样看OG，会有收获的。

carriemo

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ParisTexas

以下是引用carriemo在2008-7-27 14:28:00的发言：

为什么楼主明白了？我听了解释还是迷茫。。。

第一个that不管它，的确是同位语从句。但是OG的解释是说the recession must be followed by that啊。。 Paris对于recession后面的that和第五题里的that的解释都是“定语从句中作宾语，可省”。。。混乱了，是不是打错了啊？麻烦再解释一下。

另外谢谢楼主，都没有注意过这个问题。。。

是这样的, 可能是我没表达清楚，我觉得

confidence that the economy
   will avoid the recession that many had feared earlier
   in the year and instead come
  

to compete for the mass market sales it would in the past have conceded to rivals
    
            

两句的先行词recession和mass market sales在定从里面都是做宾语，that都是可以省的。但OG在45里说的不能省，个人理解，只是相对正确（从逻辑关系清晰的角度）。（如果有哪位G友有不同意见，请不吝提出）

看OG，要分清主要/绝对错误(must have)，和次要/相对错误(good to have)。象45，“that不能省”只是选项D错误的必要条件，而非充分条件（请仔细理解我说这句话的意思）; 而对于5的错误选项，OG半个字没提“that 不能省”，可见，错误的选项并非主要因为这一项而错误，依然可以理解为“是错误选项之所以错误的必要条件”。

可能你会感觉矛盾依然存在，但请体会黑体的那段话，因为还有很多问题在OG中也有类似的模糊，比如，代词指代问题，甚至极个别宾语从句先行词省略等等.

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