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[求助]请教大全158 run-on sentence run on

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21#
发表于 2005-5-4 23:55:00 | 只看该作者

gemi写到:
薄冰“英语语法”P507
并列句由两个或两个以上的简单句并列而成。常见的结构是:
简单句+对立连词+简单句。这种简单句常被叫做分句。等立连词之前可用逗号,也可不用逗号。如:
They were happy and they deserved their happiness.
The signal was given, and the steamer moved slowly.

flroa_wang mm 又提到:

Rule 14. If the subject does not appear in front of the second verb, do not use a comma.

Example

He thought quickly and still did not answer correctly.
The subject does not appear after the and, so no comma is used.

我得问题是: 这两句和其解释不是矛盾的么?不解哦

22#
发表于 2005-7-17 21:18:00 | 只看该作者

看得都犯晕,算了,跳过这个概念~

23#
发表于 2005-11-9 16:24:00 | 只看该作者
这儿ETS是不是认为不加逗号会造成confusion啊?所以才加上一个本可以optional的逗号呢?
24#
发表于 2006-3-26 15:52:00 | 只看该作者

同意楼上的,我也这么认为。


ETS特别腔调的run on sentence是and前面没有加逗号,因为and前面如果加逗号的话很明显是链接两个分句,而不加逗号的话就要看逻辑意思,and是链接哪两个部分。

25#
发表于 2006-6-10 12:59:00 | 只看该作者

LONGMAN:

yet2
used to introduce a fact, situation, or quality that is surprising after what you have just said:
Kelly was a convicted criminal, yet many people admired him.
She does not speak our language and yet she seems to understand what we say.
a story that is strange yet true
an inexpensive yet effective solution to our problem
所以我觉得,1)如果是同一主语, 不加逗号;
           2)不同主语,要加逗号
26#
发表于 2006-6-27 15:19:00 | 只看该作者

本贴更新后放在29楼(无法删除本贴,抱歉)。



[此贴子已经被作者于2006-6-28 5:09:40编辑过]
27#
发表于 2006-6-28 04:56:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用smartcoco在2005-5-4 23:55:00的发言:

gemi写到:
薄冰“英语语法”P507
并列句由两个或两个以上的简单句并列而成。常见的结构是:
简单句+对立连词+简单句。这种简单句常被叫做分句。等立连词之前可用逗号,也可不用逗号。如:
They were happy and they deserved their happiness.
The signal was given, and the steamer moved slowly.

flroa_wang mm 又提到:

Rule 14. If the subject does not appear in front of the second verb, do not use a comma.

Example

He thought quickly and still did not answer correctly.
                            
The subject does not appear after the and, so no comma is used.

我得问题是: 这两句和其解释不是矛盾的么?不解哦

这两者并不矛盾,因为前者说的两个简单句都应该是完整的句子,所以逗号可有可无,但flroa说的情况中第二部分不是一个独立的句子,and连接的实际上是两个并列的谓语(主语相同),所以and前不能有逗号。

28#
发表于 2006-6-28 05:00:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用gemj在2004-1-5 4:19:00的发言:
薄冰“英语语法”P507
并列句由两个或两个以上的简单句并列而成。常见的结构是:
简单句+对立连词+简单句。这种简单句常被叫做分句。等立连词之前可用逗号,也可不用逗号。如:
They were happy and they deserved their happiness.
The signal was given, and the steamer moved slowly.


根据上述说法,如果有连词,逗号是可有可无的。但在og11关于run-on的定义中给出的例子(p633)却可以只有逗号而没有连接词,难道说使两者只要有一个(或者两者都有)就可以了?og11的例子如下:

Correct: Jose is still a feared batter, most pithers don't want to face him.

Incorrect:Jose is still a feared batter most pithers don't want to face him.

请NN确认,

困惑ing....


[此贴子已经被作者于2006-6-28 5:04:32编辑过]
29#
发表于 2006-9-24 13:06:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用snowfield在2006-6-28 5:00:00的发言:

根据上述说法,如果有连词,逗号是可有可无的。但在og11关于run-on的定义中给出的例子(p633)却可以只有逗号而没有连接词,难道说使两者只要有一个(或者两者都有)就可以了?og11的例子如下:

Correct: Jose is still a feared batter, most pithers don't want to face him.

Incorrect:Jose is still a feared batter most pithers don't want to face him.

请NN确认,

困惑ing....


这个问题我也很困惑 ,打开OG11的黄书,确实是这样写的,难道有了逗号可以没有and吗?????????
30#
发表于 2006-9-25 23:45:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用amy7777在2006-9-24 13:06:00的发言:

这个问题我也很困惑 ,打开OG11的黄书,确实是这样写的,难道有了逗号可以没有and吗?????????

根据GMAT SC中表达要简明的原则,两个分句一定要有连接词(and),且如果两个分句的主语相同,第二个分句的主语应该省略且and前不用逗号;如果两个分句的主语不同,第二个分句主语不能省略且and前要加逗号。

关于这个例子:

Correct: Jose is still a feared batter, most pithers don't want to face him.

确实比较怪异,不知道这是哪一题,我印象中OG里面题目好像没有这种run-on(GMAC认为的)的表达啊!

如果上面这个例子确实是OG中的,那我估计是不是GMAC的又一个错误,毕竟其以前也犯过错误。否则我也确实没法理解了!

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